RC-5 for combat purpose?

shotgunner11 said:
I would say pick the knife that can do the things that you plan on doing most the best. I doubt that you'll be stabbing people the most.

Any knife can be used as a weapon. Cutting flesh and stabbing it really isn't all that hard and I think WWAAAAAYYYYYY too much time and effort goes into making knives to do it.

Get the knife that will do the best job at what you do most often.
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yes but some even doubt about the cutting ability of the RC5.
 
Dizwolf said:
*sigh*

Look...If you're not likely to be in a knife fight... don't worry about this. If you were going to war, I'd say discuss on, but I don't think that's the case. If you're worried about self defense, well the RC sure as shit isn't an EDC, so forget it. So unless you're going to be joining the Mil and haven't been to basic yet...in which case, wait until after your training to pick a knife... I'd worry more about things you're likely to do with a knife, than mall ninja scenarios. I'm not trying to be mean, but It sounds like you're losing realism.

If you are in common situations where you feel you need a knife for self defense, you need to go get trained. That training will tell you what type of knife you need.
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I've been in the Army.
quite some time ago.
and it was in Europe.but no knives were issued.
I was in the security,airforce.
walking around with a club,gun or Fall rifle.yeah that long ago.

I've been in situations(civilian life,not too many thank God) where me and a friend stood against a couple of guys wielding knives.the middle-eastern type of guys.
well case closed without shedding blood.
words work better than violence in most cases.even with those idiots.

I once read a book written by "Paul Balor",from Paladin press.

it was about how to become a mercenary.
in this book he said, the only thing you need to learn with a knife is ...stab.and also to use the Gerber Mark II for it.

but I think you can use many other knives for that when needed.
preferences yes.

he also adviced against all those fighting scenerios ,where they show in books etc how to deal with someone wielding a knife.like putting/twisting your jacket around your arm for protection and so.
that all didnt work in his opinion.
just run away ,or use a chair to keep to person at a distant.
but someone who uses a knife and is also fast.is way to dangerous to battle with.


in that situation I talked about,one guy who saw us standing opposite those guys ,of whom one had a big(12" blade or something) shoarma knife, said afterwards,you guys disappointed me by not doin anything to that guy .
I said did you see the knife he was wielding (and fast).
"yes, but you can throw a bicycle on him"was his answer.
haha.
yes ,well ...:confused:

so mall ninja?

mwah.I'm not Japanese.

I just like knives.
especially the combat/survival kind of knives.

got them already from the age of 5 years old.
and if I pay some 200 Euro for a blade I want to know that that blade works good.
in all ways.
this doesnt mean I want to use it for the kill.
I am not longing for war.
 
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The way I look at it, the RC5 is too thick for that length of knife unless you are going to be doing a lot of prying, and by prying, I mean prying metal.

The RC6 will do just about anything (except to pry metal) better than the RC5, IMO.
 
If you put it in the right place it will neutralize someone pretty quick. Then again, anything with a decent edge and point will.
 
I think the RC-6 fills pretty much all the roles as a survival blade and it will cover most of your prying needs. I mean, the thicker the blade gets, the stronger it is - yes; but, it also limits which gaps you can fit it into, the thicker it is. So, having a thicker and stronger blade isn't always the best, since you may not even be able to use it, because it might be too thick for smaller gaps and crevices.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
The way I look at it, the RC5 is too thick for that length of knife unless you are going to be doing a lot of prying, and by prying, I mean prying metal.

The RC6 will do just about anything (except to pry metal) better than the RC5, IMO.
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prying metal?
like mr.Noss always does on those knife destruction test videos on youtube?

he was surprised that the tip of the RD-7 broke when ramming it into sheath metal and bending it sideways.

:rolleyes:
 
I mean like what it was designed for.
The RC5, as Jeff had said, was a purpose-designed knife, designed by some Air Force (USAF) SERE guys. So, in the event of a crash of a helicopter or plane with no ejection seat, you may have to pry apart some longerons and rip apart the skin of the aircraft to get out. That's what I mean by prying metal.
 
stoffi said:
Except the TOPS Tom Brown Tracker...

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My guess is that somebody watched "The Hunted".
 
and if the RC-5 is designed to be an SERE type knife, with a function of getting out of a plane or helicoptor, I think in order to cut your way out, you might have to stab the fuselage or skin of the plane or helicoptor to start cutting. This would be a pretty tough material I'd imagine, and so if the RC5 could 'stab' a helicopter, I think it wouldn't have too much trouble stabbing human skin.

Does this make any sense?
 
Nov - ah, in that case the knife is great, but as mentioned, it's thick and heavy. If your ok with that, I'd go for it.
 
JCK, you're exactly right except for one thing: It's not difficult to stab through airplane skin. It's only about twice the thickness of aluminum foil. BUT, it's still more difficult to stab through than flesh. ;)

So, I go back to my original assessment that the RC% STABS FINE.
 
noviomagus said:
yes but some even doubt about the cutting ability of the RC5.
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I'm one of them.

Not that I doubt the cutting ability, it can indeed cut, but I feel that the RC-6 is a better, more efficient cutter, slicer and chopper.

The RC-5 is a knife that was designed to fill a pretty specific niche and it does thar well but I would take the 6 over the 5 in just about any situation.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
I mean like what it was designed for.
The RC5, as Jeff had said, was a purpose-designed knife, designed by some Air Force (USAF) SERE guys. So, in the event of a crash of a helicopter or plane with no ejection seat, you may have to pry apart some longerons and rip apart the skin of the aircraft to get out. That's what I mean by prying metal.
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ok that clearifies things for me :D
 
JCK said:
and if the RC-5 is designed to be an SERE type knife, with a function of getting out of a plane or helicoptor, I think in order to cut your way out, you might have to stab the fuselage or skin of the plane or helicoptor to start cutting. This would be a pretty tough material I'd imagine, and so if the RC5 could 'stab' a helicopter, I think it wouldn't have too much trouble stabbing human skin.

Does this make any sense?
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uhm yes that makes sense ;)
 
Dizwolf said:
Nov - ah, in that case the knife is great, but as mentioned, it's thick and heavy. If your ok with that, I'd go for it.
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that little more extra weight is not a problem.to me.


I held the knife in a shop and I really liked the feeling it gave me holding it.

but then,was afterwards doubting its cutting abilities.

Cpl Punishment said:
JCK, you're exactly right except for one thing: It's not difficult to stab through airplane skin. It's only about twice the thickness of aluminum foil. BUT, it's still more difficult to stab through than flesh. ;)

So, I go back to my original assessment that the RC% STABS FINE.
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yes I guess it would.:thumbup:

shotgunner11 said:
I'm one of them.

Not that I doubt the cutting ability, it can indeed cut, but I feel that the RC-6 is a better, more efficient cutter, slicer and chopper.
The RC-5 is a knife that was designed to fill a pretty specific niche and it does thar well but I would take the 6 over the 5 in just about any situation.
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and better stabber ...

because of its thinner blade.easier penetration.

makes me think now.

wouldn't the RC-6 suffice to cut yourself out of an aeroplane?

the Gerber LMF II would do that job also quite nice I would imagine...I don't like the serrations though.

but I have to say that the RC-6 is razor sharp knife.that's for sure.

maybe I take them all.
:eek:
 
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a minor detail about the RC-6.

I noticed that the Kydex sheath on the RC-6 is very tight.
when pulling the knife out and putting it back into the sheath it 'rubs'against the micarta.

doesn't this give wear and tear on this part of the handle?or does it hold up well against the kydex material.

can anyone give info on that?
 
Yes, I think that the 6 would be a better "stabber". I also think it would do a fairly admirable job of cutting you out of an airplane if the need arises.

As for the micarta, it's pretty tough stuff. You might develop a shiny spot on the handle but that would be the extent of the damage.

Just remember, these aren't pretty knives to begin with, they're hard use tools. The coating will wear, the handles will darken, the edge and engraving will rust, the sheath will get dinged up but it'll never fail you under normal (and even moderately abusive) use and if it does, Jeff and Mike will make you whole again.

That's what draws most of the people here to the company.
 
shotgunner11 said:
Yes, I think that the 6 would be a better "stabber". I also think it would do a fairly admirable job of cutting you out of an airplane if the need arises.

As for the micarta, it's pretty tough stuff. You might develop a shiny spot on the handle but that would be the extent of the damage.

Just remember, these aren't pretty knives to begin with, they're hard use tools. The coating will wear, the handles will darken, the edge and engraving will rust, the sheath will get dinged up but it'll never fail you under normal (and even moderately abusive) use and if it does, Jeff and Mike will make you whole again.

That's what draws most of the people here to the company.
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Yes Yes ,I know the RAT knives are high quality knives.with very good customer service.

and beauty...?that is in the eye ofthe beholder.(like with every other aspect in life).

a shiney spot on the micarta is ok .as long as it doesnt carve a 'groove'in the micarta.
that would be a bit too much in my opinion.
 
Don't get me wrong here. I carry a five. There are photos of it in a recent thread about the pouches. But it's not my only knife. I don't think I'd like it as my only knife. The five feels good in the hand. The six has the same handle, and feels just as good, with the added benefit of feeling like it's not even there.
 
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