RE: Portlandreign81 and a lesson learned

How is feedback left without a link to a sales thread??
Thought that was mandatory??
 
Corytr said:
Wow, I missed that earlier. You did leave feedback here for a transaction that happened elsewhere? That is not good, at all.
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^ That was my point. I wouldn't appreciate somebody leaving me negative iTrader feedback, for a transaction that wasn't related to this forum.

I'm not defending Reignman81 or excusing what happened (according to the OP)...

however, if one were to take the time and thoroughly read his entire feedback summary (many transactions involving stellar BG member's), other than a negative that took place involving a trade over 4 years ago, he appears to have been a stand up member.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/itrader.php?u=311844&pp=20

FWIW: I've never engaged in any dealings with Reignman81, but I have exchanged/received several PM's with this person. There were never any red flags, we just couldn't agree on a trade we both felt comfortable with. If I remember correctly, this was the member who had that really cool user picture of the 2 finger's inked up to look like faces- one holding a knife to the other's throat. It was my all-time favorite picture! :D

He's been around a long time; I hope that he weighs in here and explains his side.
 
Corytr said:
Wow, I missed that earlier. You did leave feedback here for a transaction that happened elsewhere? That is not good, at all. Spark doesn't put up with that kind of stuff.
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Yup. I don't think that is right at all. This thread could backfire as so many do.
 
palonej said:
How is feedback left without a link to a sales thread??
Thought that was mandatory??
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Perhaps you can put any old link in there? It is my understanding that mods or spark don't look at submitted feedback unless it gets reported, and nor should they. Grownups should be able to figure out how the system works without their hand being held.
 
You'd think so Cray, but sometimes common sense doesn't enter the equation.
Joe
 
palonej said:
How is feedback left without a link to a sales thread??
Thought that was mandatory??
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I believe he used the old thread link he mentioned where the same or similar(I don't know) knife was sold. Then acted as the buyer in leaving feedback.
That of course is not an appropriate use of Itrader feedback
This GBU thread however is a good heads up to the membership-of course there is always portlanreign81's side of the story if chooses to tell it.
 
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I might put both OP and the other guy on ignore, if I put anyone on ignore, but I don't, so you can ignore this.
 
I think the op made a mistake with the feedback. But imho its an honest mistake and one i can forgive since he was obviously being taken advantage of by another member. The fact that it didnt happen here only shows that the person doing the scamming was using outside channels of selling items knowing that feedback couldnt be left here. The feedback system is not perfect. The fact that you can screw around all you want and get away with it as long as either A. It doesnt happen hear and B. You can still get away with it here if no money exchanges or no item ships should be looked at as a worse thing than the op accidentally leaving bad feedback in an illegitimate manner. One person is looking out for the community and the other trying to take advantage of it.

Regardless of the op's mistake i would still deal with him no problem. Its not like he left negative feedback for a deal he didnt even have to tarnish someones good name. To me the intent should habe some weight here. I just dont understand anyone saying they would block the op because of this. Not unless you like scamming on other sites. I simply dont think people should be able to hide themselves ripping other people off just because it happened elsewhere. I would want to know about a sexual predator who moves in next door whether the crime took place in my state or not. That is a very extreme comparison and in no way am i saying they are equal. But a criminal shouldnt be able to hide on a technicality. The op knows now he made a mistake which is the important thing. And im grateful to now know not to deal with the scammer who tried ripping him off.
 
Well stated PURPLEDC and I agree with everything said. It is also a bit surprising that, despite being made aware of this thread, the seller (Portlandreign81) has chosen to not to respond to this.
 
for me any notification of a thief is a good thing and i would like to thank the OP for the heads up.
 
moshow9 said:
Well stated PURPLEDC and I agree with everything said. It is also a bit surprising that, despite being made aware of this thread, the seller (Portlandreign81) has chosen to not to respond to this.
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Im not really surprised. What can be said anyways? To deny it would be foolish and to admit it would open up the door even further for more criticism. For me, just him now knowing people are on to him is good enough. He can keep his excuses. It would likely be a story of family or work trouble anyways which is getting really old.
 
I was surprised there were even questions about posting this.
Who cares where it happened?? Both parties are members here.......and I'm thankful the OP posted this info.
Thanks!
Joe
 
AF1928 said:
Why would I report the OP?? I've simply been asking what the correct protocol is?? I thought the idea behind the GBU was to give voice to these types of questions or issues?? I didn't realize that I should stop posting if my questions some how went against the conventional wisdom. If someone could point me in the right direction related to what is the correct protocol....that'd be great. I've apologized once......I guess that wasn't enough. I simply was unsure that the OP's original intent was correct......I assigned no nefarious purpose to his post. I also wasn't swaying the thread to my personal standard.....I don't even know what that should be?? Again guys, I apologize for being counter-culture here........though I have no idea what culture I'm running counter to.
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Why? Because you seem to be highly concerned to the point of dishevelment, more than anyone else that you even admit to thread hijacking. If you want clarification about something related to the forums start your own thread in Tech Support. This post can also help, located at the top of the GBU. I don't know what your deeply rooted interest is in all this, for someone that has only been around a month you seem overly concerned and highly invested. Someone seems very off here.
The knife community is pretty small and most people know one another to some extent. Negative actions and sleazy behavior in one place can potentially have repercussions in other places. As far as feedback is concerned, the only time a feedback mark/point is warranted is when a deal happens through the Exchange here, there must be a thread where a person is selling/trading an item. SO, if you buy an item on eBay and know the seller is on here too and leave them a negative mark on their iTrader it can be worth getting a 3 month ban or a high point non-expiring infraction. It's worth reading the rules and if in doubt as a mod.
 
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No dishevelment.....just honest questioning. Once a fellow member pointed me in the direction of the GBU post you referenced....I was good. Prior to that, it appeared as more personal opinion rather than forum protocol/rules. I now understand exactly what should be done.

RevDevil said:
Why? Because you seem to be highly concerned to the point of dishevelment, more than anyone else that you even admit to thread hijacking. If you want clarification about something related to the forums start your own thread in Tech Support. This post can also help, located at the top of the GBU. I don't know what your deeply rooted interest is in all this, for someone that has only been around a month you seem overly concerned and highly invested. Someone seems very off here.
The knife community is pretty small and most people know one another to some extent. Negative actions and sleazy behavior in one place can potentially have repercussions in other places. As far as feedback is concerned, the only time a feedback mark/point is warranted is when a deal happens through the Exchange here, there must be a thread where a person is selling/trading an item. SO, if you buy an item on eBay and know the seller is on here too and leave them a negative mark on their iTrader it can be quoth getting a 3 month ban or a high point non-expiring infraction. It's worth reading the rules and if in doubt as a mod.
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RevDevil said:
Why? Because you seem to be highly concerned to the point of dishevelment, more than anyone else that you even admit to thread hijacking. If you want clarification about something related to the forums start your own thread in Tech Support. This post can also help, located at the top of the GBU. I don't know what your deeply rooted interest is in all this, for someone that has only been around a month you seem overly concerned and highly invested. Someone seems very off here.
The knife community is pretty small and most people know one another to some extent. Negative actions and sleazy behavior in one place can potentially have repercussions in other places. As far as feedback is concerned, the only time a feedback mark/point is warranted is when a deal happens through the Exchange here, there must be a thread where a person is selling/trading an item. SO, if you buy an item on eBay and know the seller is on here too and leave them a negative mark on their iTrader it can be worth getting a 3 month ban or a high point non-expiring infraction. It's worth reading the rules and if in doubt as a mod.
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:thumbup:Perfect.......Kudos Rev......:thumbup:

Yes you did hijack the thread---It was pointed out clearly ABOVE
if you have more to say Begin your own thread....
 
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