Real men carry slippies.

Vivi, the Spyderco I have is a Delica and I find that the leaf like blade(part serrated admittedly)is not as good at slitting,opening or food prep as most of my slip joints or small lockbacks. Spyderco is a fine and innovative firm, no argument about that, but I find other knives more useful.
 
I just like the thin blade profile of a well designed slipjoint (not just the edge but the entire blade) for the things I cut, thin blade profiles are more efficient at doing the job and it takes less effort for me.
 
I just like the thin blade profile of a well designed slipjoint (not just the edge but the entire blade) for the things I cut, thin blade profiles are more efficient at doing the job and it takes less effort for me.

Can't argue with reality. That's one of the reasons that Queen stockman of mine does find its way into my pocket. It's also too pretty to never carry :) For most things though I find the cutting difference fairly negligable, but thinner always slices better.

Vivi, the Spyderco I have is a Delica and I find that the leaf like blade(part serrated admittedly)is not as good at slitting,opening or food prep as most of my slip joints or small lockbacks. Spyderco is a fine and innovative firm, no argument about that, but I find other knives more useful.

I've come to like the leaf shaped blade quite a bit for general work, food prep included. The long blade and decent amount of belly on my Manix has served me well in the kitchen and in the woods when food needs cutting. It's become one of my favorite edge profiles for that specific use. It feels almost like a pocket-sized chefs knife. For cutting up apples, slicing bread and other things along those lines its served me well enough. I have used both an Opinel #10 and a SAK Nylon Solo as dedicated food knives before, both excelling themselves.

And this is where we disagree. (Or, to put it less politely, what the heck do you cut on a day-in and day-out basis!?) At any rate, I WILL grant you that what is defined as "general use" in my life is very likely going do be defined differently in your life. Which is where the phrase "different strokes for different folks" comes in. :)

BTW, as to your point about steels ..... I have never had a problem with or complaint about the carbon steel on my Schrade and Case pocketknives nor the stainless on my SAKs. No problem with rust (if I'm going to be in a wet environment, naturally I'd opt for stainless over 1095) and staining doesn't bother me, and no problem AT ALL with their edge-holding ability. Again, this is in my real-world experience. Now, if some manufacturer decides to produce a reasonably priced stockman or other traditional style slipjoint with high-end steel and the tried-and-true blade shape and edges bevels etc. that have worked so well for so many years for me, I just might be first in line to try one. And - as you mentioned - based on the success of the Queen D2 line, I don't think I'm alone in this.

Well, my EDC has its typical everyday use, then theres the odd things life throws at it, which seem to happen pretty often. Typical for me would be cutting up food of different sorts, opening packages, breaking down boxes, opening shipments of product at work, building fires and shelters in the woods etc. Sometimes though, I'll need to cut through really thick plastic or other tough materials where a secure grip and lock are appreciated. I find the one-handed opening feature to my preference as well. Something along the lines of an Endura just works the best for me if I'm only going to carry one knife. Also, mall-ninjaish it may seem, I like to have some sort of defense beyond my own two fists. I plan to eventually get a carry permit for a small pistol, but there are way too many places in Ohio that don't allow guns for that to ever be my dedicated defense tool. I'd prefer none of my knives ever see the blood of anything but an animal killed for food, but history (And the present) have shown us time and time again that unfortunately not everyone can be trusted. Staying alive is kind of a big thing to me, so I try to be aware of my surroundings and avoid threats that I can, whether its a car, a dog or a shady looking person. Thankfully, most people are prepared to treat you with respect and decency if you can do the same for them, which is always best. Words have been the only "defense" I've used for 6 or 7 years now excluding animals; hopefully that number continues to grow as I do.

I carried SAKs exclusively for most of my life and while their steel always worked for me, I just find Spydercos CPMD2 or S30V works better for me, just like Queens D2 works better for me. The SAKs can take a thin edge and get very sharp, but they burr very easily when sharpening and dull readily on abrasive media like cardboard. The thin blade will do an admirable job of cutting even when its dulled though. I've had SAKs where I've thinned the edge out too much, and metal was weakening at the edge to where it would shear off during sharpening and roll excessively in use. Never had that issue with one of the "tech" steels in my Spydercos. Not trying to bad mouth the old steels, I just found something that I feel is an upgrade that fits my preferences.

I'm glad people here can respectfully disagree. It feels more peaceful and friendly here than some of the other forums. If I come off a little strong with my opinions, I apologize, I'm just trying to keep this a good discussion about blade steels etc. myself.

Today I plan to carry my Manix and my Queen stockman. I'll use this same setup for the next few days and see if any uses pop up where I feel I *need* to use the Spyderco rather than pick it for the convenience of it. I'll report back with what happens. I don't expect to find a whole lot though, because the Manix is sort of a just in case tool (But still the knife I pick if I only carry one that day for reasons I've explained more than you probably wanted to hear). :)
 
So far, I have stockmans in D2, 1095, and Carbon V (both CS and Case). I would LOVE to try a couple in M2 and 1095 at 66 HRC. Now THAT would really get me excited! I have some M2 knives at 66 HRC (home-made), and they will really surprise you. Combined with the slimness of a stockman, that would be the cat's meow.

Vivi, I agree with you on the Queens. Their stockmans are just too nice not to slip into your pocket!
 
Vivi try useing all 3 blades until they dull on that Queen stockman and try doing the same amount of work with that Spyderco. I think you may be very shocked at the results. I'd also ad to me there really isn't any super steel that is more super than D2, maybe M2. But, that is my own bias opinion, and I'd love to see a folder made with that hard M2 like my hacksaw blade knife.
 
A small little fixed blade can do all things a one handed locking knife can do, better.
That's not exactly true. While a small fixed blade is a wonderful tool to have, to some of us they're not an available option. I would love to EDC a nice puukko, but that is nigh impossible here in California. Concealed carry of a fixed blade, any fixed blade, is a big no-no here. A person can always carry a fixed blade in plain sight of course, but doing so would send the knifeless running for the hills and draw unwanted attention from the authorities. It doesn't matter that plain sight carry is legal. In this situation, a good folder is eminently more useful than a fixed blade because a good folder is something that can be kept at hand, while the fixed blade must stay at home or in the car.
 
Kamagong do you really think open carry of a nice looking small fixed blade is really going to send the knifeless running for the hills, and bring the police jumping down on you?
 
Kamagong do you really think open carry of a nice looking small fixed blade is really going to send the knifeless running for the hills, and bring the police jumping down on you?
I may have exagerrated a bit, but I'm pretty sure that seeing a person with a fixed blade on the hip is enough reason for some people to dial 911 and report a man with a weapon. I could be wrong of course, but I'm not willing to take the chance.
 
Kamagong do you really think open carry of a nice looking small fixed blade is really going to send the knifeless running for the hills, and bring the police jumping down on you?

I've had the cops called on me for walking around outside at night in a black coat. ;)

I might not get in trouble with the law if I EDC my custom puukko, but it would, without a doubt, draw a lot of unwanted attention. I might try it someday just for fun though, it's also too nice of a knife not to use. :)
 
There's been alot of construction at work lately, and I've had a chance to see what the construction workers carried, and almost to a man, they all carry a slippie of some type. Stockman, Trappers, Slimline Trappers, and SAKs seem to make up the patterns used. I've asked a few of them about this, why they carry these knives, and quite a few of them gave me looks like "What the hell else am I going to carry?" When I asked if they ever carry tacticals and such, one guy said "You mean those plastic gimmicks with the cute little hole or nob for my thumb? Pretty little clip for my pocket? I need a knife, not a toy. Real men carry THESE (he points to his pocket, which is hiding some type of slippe). That's interesting. Here I thought we tradiionalists were a dying breed, but in reality we are going strong. Very cool.

If you think because you carry a slippie that you are a real man traditionalist, then i think you are way off base.

Do you still ride a horse to work too??
Do you heat you house off a wood burning stove, and chop wood all fall??

. Don't try and make youself all high and mighty just because you carry a slippie. I carry a slippie a lot too, but i dont think it makes me a "real man", and not even close to a traditonalist.
 
If you think because you carry a slippie that you are a real man traditionalist, then i think you are way off base.

Do you still ride a horse to work too??
Do you heat you house off a wood burning stove, and chop wood all fall??

traditionalist my ass. Don't try and make youself all high and mighty just because you carry a slippie. I carry a slippie a lot too, but i dont think it makes me a "real man", and not even close to a traditonalist.


That type of language is not tolerated in this sub forum.
Infraction issued.
 
Vivi,

This is not an us vs them forum.

Your post in the spydie forum is not appreciated either. It just instigates what we just saw.
 
I'm not trying to press the issue or cause a problem between myself and others here. But your name is Bastid, from bastidville. Can i use puns on words too? like azz, or S$#@?
 
I'm not trying to press the issue or cause a problem between myself and others here. But your name is Bastid, from bastidville. Can i use puns on words too? like azz, or S$#@?

Would you like to try for Mod Sass you have it?

If you can not post with decency you do not belong in this sub forum.

That is the point.
 
Folks let's all try to remember what makes this subforum special to us and keep it in mind when we post.

(It takes a lot to trip Gus' trigger but it can be done. Word to the wise and weisenheimers.)
 
... I've asked a few of them about this, why they carry these knives, and quite a few of them gave me looks like "What the hell else am I going to carry?" ....

I think their answer says it all, in that they're likely carrying this style of knife either through ignorance of a superior design, or because it's still most common style today and unless you're 'into' knives, you're not likely going to take the time to research or really shop for one; you're likely going to just 'grab a knife at the store'.


There's no doubt been countless 'real men' like John Wayne types, that carried slipjoints, but if the High School Debating Team hit this topic, I expect the final verdict would be that real men carry either fixed blades or guns or clubs or something like that.

I know this much: Real men have better things to do than sit in an ER waiting room for stitches for a lacerated finger from a slipjoint closing on their hand.

Again, please do not mistake above for being rude.... just bein' a smartass. Great thread, and good reading. Thanks. :)
 
I'd just like to say that whatever 'real man' means or doesn't mean, I don't want to denigrate anybody for liking or carrying a different knife type from mine. Whatever the knife, we all LIKE knives on Bladeforums and we should be respectful of other's tastes. Good thread, good forum as usual!
 
Better quit while you are ahead.
Take some time to see what this forum is about. There seems to be a misinterpretation of what is behind this particular thread.

You can count on me not putting up with posts that will degrade this forum.
(That includes "smartassness".)

Want to discuss it - take it to service and support. This is not a suggestion.

No one here is degrading anyone for the knife they carry.

I own plenty of many types of knives and each has a purpose.

This forum is for the discussion of Traditional knives.

Post in here with respect and all is well.
Waltz in here with a chip on your shoulder and we will be glad to escort you out without a waste of time.

P.S. Slip joint users cut with the blade edge rather than the spine of a knife.
 
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