Recommend me a Knife less than 2.5 inch, my Emerson CQC-14 2.7 inch is now "illegal"

The Sypderco Cat has a blade length of less than 2.5" and a cutting edge length of just over 2 inches. You should get clarification about which length matters for this rule.

If they use blade length, then that might rule out the regular sized swiss army knives which, in my opinion, is totally unreasonable.
 
"The applicable Penal Code prohibition
applies to any knife or similar implement with a fixed blade longer that 2.5 inches."

Are you sure that this rule applies to folders at all?
 
supergnat said:
"The applicable Penal Code prohibition
applies to any knife or similar implement with a fixed blade longer that 2.5 inches."

Are you sure that this rule applies to folders at all?
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I just don't want to take a risk, and have anything over that limit.

I don't have the time etc to get wrapped up in system/court thing even if charges get dropped.

I'd rather be in a situation where my blade is under 2.5 so that rule can't be enforced due to falling under the
2.5 rule.
 
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I have similar restrictions where I work. I have both the Spyderco Cat and the CRKT Squid that folks have recommended. Both are excellent knives. I also have a small assortment of traditional knives. They also work great, but if you are carrying an Emerson, I think you probably aren't a fan of traditionals.
 
The Sypderco Chicago is even smaller (2 inch blade), but still feels like a big knife in your hand (just like the Cat). If you'd prefer a slipjoint to a liner lock, the Spyderco Squeak has the same dimensions and equally positive reviews.
 
The Kershaw Amplitude is a nice option. It is slim with a blade right at 2.5 with a 2.3" sharpened length. It is assisted, so that may make a difference.
 
Here's a few ...

Spyderco Dragonfly 2 - 2.25"

Spyderco Kahr Delica - 2.5"

Kershaw Amplitude - 2.5"

KaBar Mini Dozier - 2.25"

Got access to a belt sander, disc sander, or spindle sander? Wouldn't be difficult to take off 0.2" of the tip of your CQC-14.

Mark the 2.5" with a Sharpie pen and draw a new slope up to the spine. Then slowly reduce the spine to match the new slope line. It's really quite easy.
 
Spyderco dragonfly. I prefer the g10 model over the frn. They come in various steels as well. With the finger choil it provides a solid grip and enough blade for pretty much anything you'll need.

I prefer blades around 3.5in, but if I had to carry something under 2.5 it would be a g10 Dragonfly.
 
I spend time in Chicago occasionally and I've piled up a bunch of <2.5" options to comply with the goofy law there. I have most of the small Spyderco knives and I'm a big Spyderco guy, but IMO the Cold Steel Tuff Lite is a better all around option. For actual work it's superior to knives the like the Dragonfly series when it comes to everything but looks. It's cheap, it's sturdy, and it will put in some serious work if you need it to.

If you do go with a Spyderco, I recommend the Cat. The wider handle makes it more comfortable to use than the Dragonfly knives, IMO. Don't get the CF version, though, every one I've handled has had issues.
 
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I'm quite enamored with the Dragonfly 2 in ZDP. It doesn't have the best purchase but none of my really compact EDC's do and I don't expect them to. I'm thinking of putting custom scales on the DF2.
 
Hello Rokuez,

I've sent you a Visitor Message with an idea for a solution. Let me know if you like the idea. :)
 
There is a big difference between something being "illegal", and something being "against school policy".

Doing something "illegal" can get you arrested and imprisoned. Violating school policy can get you expelled. You cannot be arrested for violating a school policy, but you can be arrested for breaking a law that is the same as school policy. Of course, there is always the possibility that a cop won't know the law, and might make a wrongful arrest, but if a cop makes a wrongful arrest and arrests you for something that is NOT illegal, that is a violation of your Constitutional rights and you can sue the county. But if you know the law, know your rights, and are polite to the cops, you shouldn't have to worry about being wrongfully arrested.

If you are ever stopped by a cop and there is a question regarding the legality of your knife, request that the officer summon the patrol supervisor (this is a standard practice when there is a question regarding the legality of a persons actions). The patrol supervisor is a senior officer who drives around supervising the other patrol officers. The supervisor has more experience and is less likely to make a mistake, or allow a mistake to be made that will result in a wrongful arrest.

Here is a link to California penal code 626.10. It is the California law regarding knives on school/college campuses. This link is for the official California state legislative website where all of California's laws can be found. The sections that are specific to college campus are section (2)- (b), (c), (d), (e).

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=626.10&lawCode=PEN

In short, under California law, there is no limit on the size of folder that one can carry on a college campus. There is a 2.5" blade limit on fixed-blades, but there are exceptions to that limit, like if you are carrying the knife for the purposes of food prep and consumption (section 2e). California pc 626.10 specifically refers to folding knives and fixed-blades separately, so the term "fixed blade" does not refer to a folder in the open position.

Of course, college administrators are free to impose any blade length restrictions that they want (school policy). But based on the policy you posted, it appears that the blade length limit only applies to fixed-blades.

You could always contact school administration for clarification on school policy. But in any event, I doubt that you will need a knife with a blade 2.5" or longer while on campus.

And if the college is located in the county of Los Angeles, there is a county law that prohibits the OPEN carry of any knife with a blade 3" or longer anywhere in LA. There are exceptions to this blade length limit, but I don't think they would apply on a college campus.
 
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PURPLEDC said:
If you like the emerson Id have the tip taken down a bit and continue on.
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^^This!

Send the 14 out to Josh at razor edge knives (member here) for a regrind to shorten it up.

And...get the CS tuff lite to use while Josh has the 14!:D
 
killgar said:
There is a big difference between something being "illegal", and something being "against school policy".

Doing something "illegal" can get you arrested and imprisoned. Violating school policy can get you expelled. You cannot be arrested for violating a school policy, but you can be arrested for breaking a law that is the same as school policy. Of course, there is always the possibility that a cop won't know the law, and might make a wrongful arrest, but if a cop makes a wrongful arrest and arrests you for something that is NOT illegal, that is a violation of your Constitutional rights and you can sue the county. But if you know the law, know your rights, and are polite to the cops, you shouldn't have to worry about being wrongfully arrested.

If you are ever stopped by a cop and there is a question regarding the legality of your knife, request that the officer summon the patrol supervisor (this is a standard practice when there is a question regarding the legality of a persons actions). The patrol supervisor is a senior officer who drives around supervising the other patrol officers. The supervisor has more experience and is less likely to make a mistake, or allow a mistake to be made that will result in a wrongful arrest.

Here is a link to California penal code 626.10. It is the California law regarding knives on school/college campuses. This link is for the official California state legislative website where all of California's laws can be found. The sections that are specific to college campus are section (2)- (b), (c), (d), (e).

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=626.10&lawCode=PEN

In short, under California law, there is no limit on the size of folder that one can carry on a college campus. There is a 2.5" blade limit on fixed-blades, but there are exceptions to that limit, like if you are carrying the knife for the purposes of food prep and consumption (section 2e). California pc 626.10 specifically refers to folding knives and fixed-blades separately, so the term "fixed blade" does not refer to a folder in the open position.

Of course, college administrators are free to impose any blade length restrictions that they want (school policy). But based on the policy you posted, it appears that the blade length limit only applies to fixed-blades.

You could always contact school administration for clarification on school policy. But in any event, I doubt that you will need a knife with a blade 2.5" or longer while on campus.

And if the college is located in the county of Los Angeles, there is a county law that prohibits the OPEN carry of any knife with a blade 3" or longer anywhere in LA. There are exceptions to this blade length limit, but I don't think they would apply on a college campus.
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There is also nothing wrong with going to the police chief and asking for the written permission as stated. They are giving themself an out if you ever are stopped and questioned about it. If they do the worst that will happen is the chief will be called and asked if he gave you the document. Local law does not allow the use of a switch blade where I live unless you have written permission. So a buddy of mine went in a couple years ago and he has his little piece of paper saying he can carry one. They are not going to say no when they make it clear you can ask for written permission. They aren't going to arrest you when you go to ask, just leave the knives at home when you do it ;)
 
rokuez said:
My Emerson CQC-14 2.7 in. blade is now not allowed at a UC Campus, and I want to follow the rules but also be protected.

"It is prohibited to bring or possess on the campus ot
her types of weapons capable of inflicting great
bodily injury or death (hereinafter referred to
as “lethal weapons”), unless it is with the written permission of the UCLA Police Chief. Examples of such lethal weapons include but are not limited to
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You're held down by a helicoil fastener by that wording. You are prohibited to bring or possess on the campus other types of weapons capable of inflicting great bodily injury or death. If they wanted to, they can make that apply to any knife you carry that you can possibly use as a weapon. Granted, it might be a stretch for them to have it apply to a SAK but you don't want a SAK, do you?

You want a knife. And what would your purposes be for that knife?

If you are looking for a self-defense tool, may i suggest a Zebra F-701 stainless steel ball point pen for about 8 bucks.

Or Benchmade and Zero Tolerance and a few other manufacturers offer "tactical" pens.
 
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