Recommend me a new EDC that cannot be opened by inertia

Stumpy72 said:
If I hold any of my Spydercos by pinching the thumbhole area between my thumb and index finger with the pivot end of the knife down and give it a good wrist flip, I can easily cause it to flip open by inertia. Given the NYC and NYPD attitude toward folding knives, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see a NYPD officer use that technique to establish that a Spyderco is what they’d be happy to call a “gravity knife”. That possibility rules out my ever carrying any of my Spydercos in NYC. From what I’ve heard and read, no “test” of what constitutes a “gravity knife” is too ridiculous in NYC. When I travel in NYC I carry a >3” fixed blade, so I know I’m safe from NYC knife enforcement insanity.

On another note... In NY State but outside of NYC, assisted openers can be legal or illegal. If the assisting mechanism (spring, lever, torsion bar or whatever) is attached to the blade, the knife is legal. If the assisting mechanism is attached to the frame, the knife is illegal. This is what the NYS Troopers told me--and I got the same exact answer from three different barracks when I called them to make sure they were all on the same page. County and local cops are surprisingly ignorant of this kind of detail. The desk officer I spoke with at my local PD (a large, well-funded, high end suburban PD) didn’t even know what a flipper was -- much less an assisted flipper.

Be cautious and good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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I would have thought a fixed blade knife would be more on an issue than a folder. Maybe that is the best thing, just go with a fixed blade. I've been carrying a Benchmade for years in NYC with no problem, but didn't know it was illegal until recently. Been very lucky.
 
craytab said:
I can wrist flick all of my modern folders that don't lock shut. No pinching the blade or spyder hole needed. None of my traditionals. I haven't tried my vic classic though.

For the op, I'm sure you know but I believe a pocket clip is considered open carry so you may want to forego that.
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Is the pocket clip a problem?
 
craytab said:
Good suggestion. Like you pointed out the other day it is a slip joint but also has a liner lock.

I wouldn't carry one clipped in nyc though. In the least you could be stopped for open carry.
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Isn't open carry better than concealed carry?

What about if you carry a fixed knife? Would there be an issue having it out in the open?
 
Nyc laws are strict when it comes to knives. Has to be a 3 inch blade. Has to be concealed. A slip joint in a pocket or a belt pouch carrried horizontal covered by a shirt. A non locking folding knife is best. A sod buster style should serve you fine.
Ive carried a SAK solo dropped in the pocket the few times Ive been in the city limits.
 
Yes, NYC knife laws are very strict. Exercise extreme caution if you decide to carry a knife there! I did not carry a knife in the past when I've visited, but going forward I think I'll just carry a little Vic Classic, for light and simple tasks.

I could be wrong, but it seems like to me that most NYC laws are strict, except when it comes to being a criminal or a crooked politicatian.

115Italian said:
Nyc laws are strict when it comes to knives.
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Just take a delica and throw it in the pocket when your are concerned with law enforcement. Get a deep carry clip for other times.
Just because some people on knife forum can open it with enertia, myself included, doesn't mean a cop would be able to. The ffg one is pretty full proof
 
craytab said:
I believe so. It can be considered open carry and give a cop the reason to stop you and gravity test your knife. You should really check and read the actual law though.
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Jeeeesus...sooo complex. The laws must be set up so there are many avenues to an arrest if they want to pull you in.

Here is something I just found on the clip.

https://blog.knife-depot.com/is-a-knife-clipped-to-your-pocket-considered-concealed-carry/

So, from what I can make of it, the clip is not illegal. You can have a clip on your knife but it is only an issue if you use the clip.

Is that correct?
 
slakercruster said:
Jeeeesus...sooo complex. The laws must be set up so there are many avenues to an arrest if they want to pull you in.

Here is something I just found on the clip.

https://blog.knife-depot.com/is-a-knife-clipped-to-your-pocket-considered-concealed-carry/

So, from what I can make of it, the clip is not illegal. You can have a clip on your knife but it is only an issue if you use the clip.

Is that correct?
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I believe that is correct. The problem with a clip is it could alert a leo to the fact you are carrying a knife. They can then check if it is legal under their ridiculous laws.

Lots of places have vague knife laws, my state included. Nyc has vagaries combined with extreme enforcement. Pa knife laws are rarely enforced in such a way unless another crime is committed, including in philly where all non-work knives are illegal (though I can carry my ccw, go figure).
 
Sergeua said:
Just take a delica and throw it in the pocket when your are concerned with law enforcement. Get a deep carry clip for other times.
Just because some people on knife forum can open it with enertia, myself included, doesn't mean a cop would be able to. The ffg one is pretty full proof
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That's a bit of a risk. Even in a traffic stop you could be searched if the cop thinks there is probable cause. An illegal knife is then found.

You've got to understand that it might not be just one cop trying to open your knife. They'll find one that can open a delica. It won't be that difficult.
 
I am right out side of the Philadelphia area. I will run a Delica or a Esee Izula. Both unfer 3 inches. PA laws are pretty reasonable. But Philly has it's own set of regulations. Some times I just leave my knife in the car. I don't need the hassle.
 
Get a lock back with nail Nick. Lock backs make it harder to open by inertia. Any knife that is too loose can open by inertia. A cop having a bad day is going to make a triad lock open by inertia.
 
rje58 said:
Yes, NYC knife laws are very strict. Exercise extreme caution if you decide to carry a knife there! I did not carry a knife in the past when I've visited, but going forward I think I'll just carry a little Vic Classic, for light and simple tasks.

I could be wrong, but it seems like to me that most NYC laws are strict, except when it comes to being a criminal or a crooked politicatian.
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From what I gather, if stopped by a cop, never admit the knife is for self-defense. It must always be for some other lawful reason. I was told self-defense is not a lawful reason to carry a knife in NYC.
 
Opinel N°6. SAK something-or-other. Do you really need one hand opening? Do you really need a pocket clip? What you need is sharp tool to cut things. I know I'm not really answering your question, but these are what I carry when I'm in NYC.

Zieg
 
Eli Chaps said:
Hmph... I'll have to check when I get home. Mine's always been pretty stiff. Not doubting you at all. I guess I never really tried to pinch the blade and really flick the handle too hard. Typically, I find the back locks pretty closed-biased.

I certainly cannot flick-open my Manix 2 LW in any fashion, holding the blade or otherwise.
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After months and months of ownership I have finally figured out in the last day or two how to open my Dragonfly with inertia. It took months of toughening up my Sebenza thumb to enable.
 
I was curious so I went through most of my collection and the only pocket knives I couldn't forcefully open by inertia were my BK14 and Izula .....
All my Spyderco,Benchmade,lionsteel,Ontario,Kershaw,Cold Steel and CRKT knives would open if enough inertia was applied. By the way my Para 2 was the most difficult to open this way and maybe if the pivot was tightened could be made to pass this test.
 
Manly wasp with kwik thumb stud for buck 110 is 100 percent full proof. It's a very stiff and sturdy slip joint. It will even pass the ZT spine whack test lol.

I like mine without the thumbstuds, but those work.
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