Red Scorpion Six blade failure.

savagesicslayer

savagesicslayer

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I was hiking with some friends and decided to show off the predator for them.It sliced through some small fur trees like butter so I decided to chop down a 4" hardwood to show off the chopping ability.3/4 of the way through the tree I looked at the blade and to my horror there was 2 very large pieces missing from the blade!!!!!
It was chilly today but not cold.I've been out in colder weather with it and never had any problem so I don't think the cold had any thing to do with it.
I have contacted the company and am waiting for their responce.
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HOLY GOD:eek:. Let us know how it goes because THAT is a HUUUUUGE set of chunks my friend. I hope they replace it free of charge and that everything is ok. Musta been a bad heat treat or you hit one of those tree's the FBI plants that have a metal pole in them to monitor our activities;)

But seriously, this is a big problem and needs to be taken care of for you. Good Luck
 
that's the worst feeling, showing off something you have faith in and it fails. blame it on the steel. 440c its way to brittle! in my opinion it makes for a bad work knife. that has been my problem with the predator. its a nice design, fair price, but crap steel! the good news is Aarons a good guy and should do right by you. good luck!
 
440C would not be my choice for a chopper, but that is ridiculous. Something must be wrong with the heat treat.
 
Bwaaaahaaahaahahaha!!!

Sorry man, can't help it. Honest. :D

Hollow ground 440C, eh? Hmmm... What could possibly explain massive failure under impacts? Let me think about this for about half a millisecond...
 
yeah, that does look hollow ground. . . how thin was it?

I agree, that is a poor choice of steel for a chopper.
 
the possum said:
Bwaaaahaaahaahahaha!!!

Sorry man, can't help it. Honest. :D

Hollow ground 440C, eh? Hmmm... What could possibly explain massive failure under impacts? Let me think about this for about half a millisecond...
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This is gonna make people think long and hard bout these Predator WSK's. Maybe they need to re-think the stell and grind choice which, was part of what turned me and some others off to it.

Savagesicslayer, did you feel them break off or anything? Or did it just come out looking like that? I mean I have looked at those photos and that kind of thing I expect to see to those late night knife extravaganza's.
 
It kindly looks to me like a beaver bit it. They could bite through cheap steel without chipping a tooth if you were chopping on a tree that they wanted. That's terrible steel...if it was a beaver, he surely spit the chunks out.

That blade doesn;t look hollow-ground to me, in fact, it almost looks convex ground. Of course, I never handled one, let alone owned one, so.... What kind of grind is it Savagesicslayer?
 
wow,i was sort of interested in one of these,but now i don't know.the 440 kinda made me a bit leery from the getgo.i wish it was available in good old carbon steel,at that price.i'm glad i hesitated on buying one though.i have never liked 440 of any kind.
 
I think the grind is a hybrid hollow/v-grind.
No I didn't feel the break. I was chopping and just looked at the blade and the pieces were gone.There were no beavers involved.:D
I was just contacted by Aaron at red scorpion 6 he's reviewing the pics I sent.
I don't want people to think that I don't like this knife.It chopps/chopped great and felt great in the hand while working with it.It holds a great edge and isn't too heavy either.
A 1095,0-1 verson with the exact specs of this model would be perfect imho.I'd like to see it with a od or tan coated blade if a high carbon verson comes to be.There's too many black carbon knives out there.
 
Dude, I'm pretty sure Cliff was being sarcastic.


There may be a quality control issue involved as well, because otherwise I think we'd see a lot more posts like this if it was purely a steel & geometry issue. But still, high carbide stainless is just a lousy choice for a chopper, IMO. Learned that lesson the hard way when I broke a custom bowie worth several hundred bucks.

Actually, I may as well go on record and say I think everything about this knife design is just fukkin' stoopid. :barf: So be forewarned that most of my comments on it will likely show some bias.
 
I dont know anything about the predator, but just from the above photos , it is clearly a knife meant for outdoor field use,,,this is an outdoor tool.

440 is not the right steel for this design and use...
Thus the main problem is in the way the blade is made, and not in how it was used here
 
seriously.... besides the silly geometry that makes me think
it came from the movie Krull. 440C in something that looks a bit
like an ax and ergo you would want to chop with it. silly.
Maybe they thought no one would actually use it. :-)
 
PatriotDan said:
Btw, can you please comment on the 440c not being suitable for this (type of) knife?
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440C comparatively to non-stainless steels like 1095/O-1/INFI (to name a few) is brittle. Not the best choice for something that is expected to
be used in chopping. 440C is mainly used in smaller knives that
aren't expected to be used for chopping or in areas where
toughness is needed in general.

Hence we get the failure as seen above.
 
No no no...you're all wrong. They're simply serrations that come out when you really need them.:rolleyes:
 
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