Red Scorpion Six blade failure.

I've been in contact with Red Scorpion 6 and I'm going to send back the knife for their QC people to inspect and they are going to replace the knife.
They are pretty good people to deal with.very reasonable.
 
prey," not as a hatchet substitute even though it sort of looks like one. Those saw teeth at the tip make me wonder about the strength of the tip as well. Hope you get satisfaction.
 
Forget the saw teeth.

Since everyone says 440c is bad for this type of knife I don't get it why the company even uses it. Isn't that knife like a custom knife so isn't it in the company's best interest to make a product that fully meets the demands in such a knife? I mean the mirror polish is nice but aren't these things supposed to be used for hardcore survival chores?
 
PatriotDan said:
Forget the saw teeth.

Since everyone says 440c is bad for this type of knife I don't get it why the company even uses it. Isn't that knife like a custom knife so isn't it in the company's best interest to make a product that fully meets the demands for such a knife? I mean the mirror polish is nice but aren't these things supposed to be used for hardcore survival chores?
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Yes but its also in thier interest to save money. They could have used 01, A2, 1095 etc etc in this knife but it would have cost them more money.
 
barrabas74 said:
They could have used 01, A2, 1095 etc etc in this knife but it would have cost them more money.
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:confused:

Since when is 440C cheaper than O1 or 1095? And when did it get cheaper to heat treat or machine? Actually for this type of knife, I think even 5160 would have been a better choice than any of those three, and is darn cheap too.
 
those tool steels are cheaper to buy and can be heat treated at a lower temperature, so I too don't see where they would have been more costly, unless the 440C was picked up in a deal.
 
Will you really be able to trust the new knife?
The design shape of this type of knife lends itself to the idea that this is a good 'wacker" ...this knife looks like it was meant to take anything you can toss at it.

The way it chipped however tells us that whatever it "looks" like, it has some sort of inner problem with the type of steel or Heat-treatments, that have ended up with an edge that cant be trusted.

The problem with getting a new blade from the company is that if the real problem is with all such blades, then it is not really any better.

If the problem was just with this one blade, then perhaps the new one will not ever fail like this one did.

The trick will now be for the owner of the knife, will he "be carefull" and not try to use the blade in a manner that has proved to be risky?

If the owner is more carefull from now on with the new knife, this means that he thinks there is a problem with something basic to this knife.

Because the truth is, that there is no way that a knife that is shaped like this, and is clearly designed to look like a real action knife, should have chipped out like this.

This knife is not a "Better be carefull" knife....it's a "Get 'er done" knife.

So will you be able to trust it?
 
Be assured,I will use my new knife like a borrowed mule.Steel,heat treat,edge geometry,doesn't matter.If it's worth anything then it'll take everything I'm going to throw at it or we'll be right back here reading my second failure review.
 
hardheart said:
those tool steels are cheaper to buy and can be heat treated at a lower temperature, so I too don't see where they would have been more costly, unless the 440C was picked up in a deal.
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i meant as in working with since tool steel are tougher on belts and to grind on. At least thats my experience with D2, A2 and 01 vs. 440c all of which I have done grinding on and I found the others to go through belts quicker.

So I meant the expense as in a "going through more belts" and longer grind times. But as I said this was my experience with the steels using a Grizzley G1015 belt sander.
 
the possum said:
:confused:

Since when is 440C cheaper than O1 or 1095? And when did it get cheaper to heat treat or machine? Actually for this type of knife, I think even 5160 would have been a better choice than any of those three, and is darn cheap too.
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There you go, I didnt think of 5160....ok WHY NOT use it then? this is not directed at you, this is for the company.
 
I still say it was a beaver. My money says: you find the beaver that lives in the vicinity of that tree, trap him, sedate him, and put that blade up against his choppers. I've got a dollar bill sitting right here near the keyboard that says it was a beaver.
 
I heard a story once about hungry trees thought it was a myth guess not ;)


Bors
 
I'm not suprised that it chipped although it shouldn't have that badly. Wrong steel for the intended purpose with a poor heat treat equals desaster.
 
Savagesicslayer, Did you get the replacement yet? How about a report back from their Quality Dept?
 
Dude, sorry that your knife broke...really sucks. I think that it makes me want a real BECK all the more. I just got my RS6, and just finished a great sheath for the damn thing, looks like its going up for sale! If I can't trust the thing to be there for me when I'm out and about, then screw it.
(as I dust of my old beat up Gerber Bowie that doesn't/ hasn't failed me yet)
 
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