removing price on sold items

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Originally posted by GigOne
Knowing how 2 of the moderators feel on this subject. . .I pray that we aren't forced to live with a decision that they make ! :barf:

It's a "sellers choice" and should be left that way !

Personally. . .I think some moderators are over-stepping their bounds on this issue !
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Gig One;

We COULD make leaving the asking price in a thread a hard rule, but I think that isn't warranted at this time.

As for overstepping my bounds, you agreed as a Gold member to follow the rules set forth in the exhange forum for selling, and the BFC moderators, and management reserve the right to change those rules as we see fit. As a moderator, I am a member of the management team here at BFC, and we do have the right to amend the rules for the good of the members, and BFC as a whole.

As I stated, I want to see discussion on this issue, and see what the membership thinks. I'd like to leave it alone, but it looks like you are begging us to make a rule, Gig One.

The ultimate choice here is up to the moderators and Spark. We don't want to make the choice; we expect some courtesy. If this doesn't happen, then a hard rule WILL BE MADE!

GigOne, if you have a good reason to delete an ASKING PRICE, I'd sure like to hear it.
 
Originally posted by CODE 3
Gig One;

We COULD make leaving the asking price in a thread a hard rule, but I think that isn't warranted at this time.

As for overstepping my bounds, you agreed as a Gold member to follow the rules set forth in the exhange forum for selling, and the BFC moderators, and management reserve the right to change those rules as we see fit.
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How convenient for you. Several hundred of us reserve the right to keep our money when renewal time comes around, too.

The ultimate choice here is up to the moderators and Spark. We don't want to make the choice; we expect some courtesy. If this doesn't happen, then a hard rule WILL BE MADE!

GigOne, if you have a good reason to delete an ASKING PRICE, I'd sure like to hear it.
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Let me clue you in on a little something. I paid to be able to post for sale ads here, and will be damned if someone I am paying for a service is going to micromanage anything I do, and not one of us owes you an explanation for squat. The ultimate choice is with the people who pay.
You want some courtesy, try showing some.
A "hard rule" will be made if you aren't shown some courtesy? LMAO, that's pathetic. Grow up.
 
Originally posted by OwenM
How convenient for you. Several hundred of us reserve the right to keep our money when renewal time comes around, too.


Let me clue you in on a little something. I paid to be able to post for sale ads here, and will be damned if someone I am paying for a service is going to micromanage anything I do, and not one of us owes you an explanation for squat. The ultimate choice is with the people who pay.
You want some courtesy, try showing some.
A "hard rule" will be made if you aren't shown some courtesy? LMAO, that's pathetic. Grow up.
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Yup. You can keep your money at renewal time. That is your choice.

You are paying for the PRIVELEDGE to post items for sale here. It isn't your right, nor anyone elses to dictate the rules simply because you pay to be here. The rules are ultimately set by Spark, not by the moderators. Yes, we have input, and we have some latitude to make rules, but we do reserve the right to make it a hard rule. Simple as that.

As a moderator here, I have the authority to act as I see fit, including asking GigOne, you, or any other member to explain something that I deem necessary. If that is unacceptable to you, Owen, don't post in the Exchange forums any longer. Again, that is your choice. It isn't me that needs courtesy, it is your fellow members. You can **** on me all day, I'll just smile & do my job, whether you like it or not.

I stated that I wasn't going to get into a pissing match here. I stated my opinion, and asked for discussion on the subject. If you want to flame me, fine. Do it in email, not here.

Lets continue this as a discussion. If any more flames are forthcoming, this thread will be locked.
 
My feelings on this subject are as I have already stated, don't fix what isn't broken.

Mike, you are right that you have a right to ask for an explanation, but GigOne has no obligation to give you one. The way things are currently done in the exchange forums, a person can edit his for sale posts if he wishes to. He does not have to explain to anyone, including you, why he is doing this.

I don't think it matters at all why someone doesn't want to leave prices posted.
 
Originally posted by CODE 3
As a moderator here, I have the authority to act as I see fit, including asking GigOne, you, or any other member to explain something that I deem necessary. If that is unacceptable to you, Owen, don't post in the Exchange forums any longer. Again, that is your choice. It isn't me that needs courtesy, it is your fellow members. You can **** on me all day, I'll just smile & do my job, whether you like it or not.
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No, as a moderator here, you have the authority to enforce the rules, not to make them up on a whim. Our personal business is not your business, unless it is harmful to the forums or membership. You're on the internet, man, don't get too caught up in that "authority".
Anyway, you are not acting within your position unless it has suddenly become a moderator's job to cause a problem where there isn't one, and threaten members with new rules they don't like if they don't act according to the way you as an individual think they should. That IS unacceptable to me (which is why I posted to begin with), and I will continue to post in the exchange forums as often as I please, thank you, because I paid for that service.

...and I'll keep leaving my prices where everyone can see them just like I always have, too:p
 
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As for overstepping my bounds, you agreed as a Gold member to follow the rules set forth in the exhange forum for selling. . .
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I know exactly what I agreed to "when I signed up to be a Gold Memeber."

Do you ?

I really wish that I can locate the virtual paperwork that I signed when purchasing my Gold memebership ! Cus I really don't remember it saying that I had to "cow-down" to God-u-nators !


Posted by CODE 3

. . .and the BFC moderators, and management reserve the right to change those rules as we see fit.
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Feel the power baby. . . . I feels soooooo good ! ! ! YEAH !

:rolleyes:


Posted by CODE 3

As a moderator, I am a member of the management team here at BFC, and we do have the right to amend the rules for the good of the members, and BFC as a whole.
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Do you get frequent nose bleeds from such attitudes. . .errrr. . . .altitudes ?

You're funny dude !


Posted by CODE 3

I'd like to leave it alone, but it looks like you are begging us to make a rule, Gig One.
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Oooopppppssss. . . .KNEE JERK ! ! !

D'OH !

Great management technique Mike !

I guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do !

:rolleyes:


Posted by CODE 3

The ultimate choice here is up to the moderators and Spark.
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The ultimate choice ? ? ? :confused:

Sounds more like the ultimate challenge !


Posted by CODE 3

We don't want to make the choice; we expect some courtesy. If this doesn't happen, then a hard rule WILL BE MADE!
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"If we don't get the courtesy that we expect. . .a hard rule WILL BE MADE !

D'OH !

KNEE JERK ! ! !


Posted by CODE 3

GigOne, if you have a good reason to delete an ASKING PRICE, I'd sure like to hear it.
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Like I said in the other thread. . ."I posted what I thought on this subject in 2 threads. Too bad that you don't feel that they are good."

Oh well. . .



When Matteo Escobar posted this thread. . .I truely felt that this subject had some merit. Minute. . .but none the less. . .it had merit.

I posted what I felt were true and honest feelings on the subject.

Personally, I think that there are "other options". . .other than keeping the prices listed.

And I still feel this way !

Especially now. . .considering the knee-jerkin' and threats of making certain decisions !

I was going to say idle threats but I don't think the roof on the house would last after a comment like that. . .

"By God !"

Hurry Mike. . .post a snotty little come back and lock the thread !
 
Originally posted by fracmeister
I appreciate the fact that this particular posting addressing this topic has been well mannered and thoughtful. A few prior posters really got on their high horses claiming that editing out offered (or even sold!) prices constituted some sort of nefarious gamesmanship or worse. Good grief!

(SNIP)
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Can I retract this comment? Seems I spoke too soon.
 
If a customer come's to my restaurant and doesn't like my food I don't say " oh well if you don't like it don't come back". He's the reason I'm in business so I'm going to do whatever it take's to make him happy. I can give a very good reason for editing sale prices, IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE. When I see a post for a knife I want and I open the thread if it say's SOLD and nothing more then I just go on with my life and look for the next knife.It doesn't hurt me at all it make's it very easy to deal with, cut and dry SOLD. If you want to make this a fair poll then only paying member's should be able to vote since we are the one's who's posts' are in question. There shouldn't even be a poll this whole thing is just people's opinion's, it's not something that should be taken so seriously. Just state your opinion and that's that. Basic member's of course are part of this community but where is my benefit from them when it come's to buying or selling knive's? I'm very happy with the knive's I have and wouldn't trade them for anything so at this point I am only looking to buy therefore I cannot benefit from a basic member when it comes to buying(according to the rules). As for it being beneficial in the future? Beneficial to who? Basic member's, what difference does it make they can't post a knife for sale so the only reason they would want it is to compare the lowest price for there own purchase. Any knife I sell I sell for much less than I paid so what good is my price? If you see my name with a knife for sale you can be sure it's a hell of a bargain and you better not think twice. I have never and would never give a bad deal to anyone here.Please stop this stupid crap.Leave this whole thing alone.Voice your opinion and move on.I like being here but if I feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of children then I'm leaving and that's that. I'm a grandfather and a father I don't want to hang out with another bunch of kid's! And to all basic member's, of course I benefit from your knowledge,input and friendship!!!I meant no offence!!!
 
Boy, I wish you guys would stop pissing all over each other trying to see who's balls are bigger.

Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again - it's up to the person who posted the knife for sale as to whether or not they want to leave the price in there after it's sold.

Personally, I feel that basing selling prices on what's sold where in the past is a poor idea - let the market dictate. If you don't want to buy something at a price, don't point to someone's 5 month old post and say "But XXX sold it for $50 cheaper!" and expect anything other than a hearty "F You!" from the seller.

There are soooooo many more important things to deal with in the world other than this. I'm not setting a rule in stone over something like this... there's no need. The rest of you chill out already. If you didn't buy it, or sell it, then it's "nunya" what the final price was.

Second, though we don't delete threads in the other forums, I do periodicly delete them here to conserve server resources. Sooooo, any research in this section would be pretty limited at best. Sorry.

Kevin
 
Posted by Spark:

Personally, I feel that basing selling prices on what's sold where in the past is a poor idea - let the market dictate.
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WOW. . .what a excellent idea !

Amazing. . .
 
Guys

I originally wanted to interject my personal opinion, but that moderator title made me dive in a little deeper than I wanted to. Sue me.

As I tried to say in the beginning, there isn't a need for a rule, but I fail to see why exactly the prices have to be deleted? Because you can? Because it isn't anyone's business? That is an arrogant attitude to have (gee, seems I was accused of arrogance as well on the same issue!)

I'll admit; I forgot what Spark had said regarding this issue a few months ago, and he refreshed my memory in this thread.

GigOne, and Owen, I have never busted your chops before on anything regarding the exchange forums, but you found it necessary to bust mine simply because I had a differing opinion? Thats not right at all.

Folks, I apologize for my posturing over this issue. I stated my original intent, but the **** hit the fan way before it needed to, and it got out of hand, and I am partially to blame.

GigOne;

I won't even comment on your smart assed comments. Did it make you FEEL better by degrading me? I hope so.
 
Posted by CODE 3:

GigOne, and Owen, I have never busted your chops before on anything regarding the exchange forums, but you found it necessary to bust mine simply because I had a differing opinion? Thats not right at all.
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GigOne;

I won't even comment on your smart assed comments. Did it make you FEEL better by degrading me? I hope so.
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You just don't friggin' get it. . .do you !

You talked a bunch of trash and you ended up steppin' on your own @#$%.

Yeah. . .you're right. . .it's all me.

You're really starting to annoy me.

Shoooo punk !
 
"How did this degenerate into name calling?"

Ahh, umm, er, eh...well gee Keith, pretty much the same way it always does when 'someone' steps in their own poop...'The players may change, but the song remains the same'...;)

Mel

p.s. It's all between the buyer and seller, at that brief moment in time...and then the final price; well, it's gone, or not, dependant on the seller's whim...as it should be.
 
I'm sorry Rick but that seems a bit heavy handed and I do not want to be associated with that type of behavior. Why not just let the decision rest with those who post? Do we really need to micro manage every little thing? (Please see my additional comments in your thread in the moderators section.)

(This does not reflect my personal preference either way but rather my dismay at the tactics being suggested.)
 
Exactly. This is such a needless and counter productive conversation guys - the only thing happening is a bunch of people are getting their hackles raised, and a bunch of people souring relationships that don't need to be affected.

I hate micromanging. I hate stepping in anywhere where I don't have to. Guys, just chill out already. This certainly doesn't need to be an issue... and regardless, it's not like we can do anything about it. If someone chooses to delete sale prices out of their thread, that's their choice. Again, it's my humble opinion that you shouldn't refer to old posts for current sales.

Mods, we don't need a hard & fast rule on this, other than let the sellers do what they want with regards for their own sales. We already have rules in place for other situations.

Past that, is there really a need for anything else to be said in this thread?

Kevin
 
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