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I leave the last asking price up, mark the price with strike through, and add SOLD in bold text immediately after that as well as in the thread title. No problems.
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Removing sold prices
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Oh yeah I lock the thread too, that is a big help lol.I change the thread title to SOLD and lock the thread...also effective
I haven't sold a knife here in a long time, but I left prices up, usually in a shrunken and lightened font with a big bold SOLD right after.
It's just information, and needs to be understood in context. Price still posted from eight years ago? Probably not relevant now, but an interesting benchmark all the same (remember when a brand- spankin- new Delica cost, like, fifty bucks?). Remarkably low price on something last week? Either it's flawed in some way or someone's in a big hurry to replace it with cash to pay a bill, or just wants it gone, or... something.
I might be wrong, but I'd swear leaving pricing up used to be the normal practice, and the only people deleting prices and advocating for it were douchebag flippers like Liu Kang.
It's just information, and needs to be understood in context. Price still posted from eight years ago? Probably not relevant now, but an interesting benchmark all the same (remember when a brand- spankin- new Delica cost, like, fifty bucks?). Remarkably low price on something last week? Either it's flawed in some way or someone's in a big hurry to replace it with cash to pay a bill, or just wants it gone, or... something.
I might be wrong, but I'd swear leaving pricing up used to be the normal practice, and the only people deleting prices and advocating for it were douchebag flippers like Liu Kang.
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I typically delete my prices, but I have no real reason for it. I kind of just went with what I was seeing when I started buying and selling on the forum. The only legit reason I can see for deleting the price is when you sell a custom knife that the maker might see. Ive sold some custom knives when I was in a pinch and didn't want to insult the maker, especially if it's "cheap" so to speak.
I delete them.
I have never had a buyer come back and say "Please repost the selling price - I prefer it that way"
Knife prices change over time if they are discontinued, or the company bags out and sells to the chi coms (you know who you are
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It also prohibits a potential buyer from making an evaluation on a 15 year old thread where someone was getting a divorce, and was drunk, and sold a knife that is legitimately now $200 for fifty bucks.
IMHO.
I have never had a buyer come back and say "Please repost the selling price - I prefer it that way"
Knife prices change over time if they are discontinued, or the company bags out and sells to the chi coms (you know who you are
)It also prohibits a potential buyer from making an evaluation on a 15 year old thread where someone was getting a divorce, and was drunk, and sold a knife that is legitimately now $200 for fifty bucks.
IMHO.
I leave them, and have never had a buyer come back and say "Please remove the selling price". It's really not the buyer's call, anyway...and the relative few that WANT the prices removed usually have plans to resell.
I've never had a buyer request this either. The only person who ever asked me to remove a sold price was a member who said it was "hurting the market," presumably because they were planning to list the same model for more than my asking price.
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That's how I remember it starting too...Liu Kang.
When would that be? I am familiar with the name ,but not the timeline. Removing prices has been a common practice on every forum I have been on(unless there was a rule) and as far back as I am aware.
It doesn't take much time looking at a knife purchase to find the range that people are posting them in. If the item is posted so infrequently that you can't find that range(or sells so quickly you can't see the price), then there really isn't a reliable range. At best the range is fairly wide, and it often gets down to how much you want it.
That said most probably copy cat the practice without much thought, the same way they post CONUS.
However the administration has shown no inclination to make a rule, so this may be more appropriate for Whine and Cheese.
My transactional goal here on Bladeforums for going on 17 years has always been to try to treat buyers and sellers in a reasonable manner that I would choose to be on the receiving end of. I prefer to leave the listed asking price available for others to see after the sale. I also find it helpful and informative when sellers leave the asking price up after the sale.
I would never assume that a previously listed sale price is the standard value set in stone. Some deals are just better than others.
I am now in the habit of posting "Sold" in the title and then locking the thread after the sale.
To each his/her own if no damage is done to either party involved.
I really can't think of many, maybe any, mutually beneficial reasons to delete the asking price from the thread after the sale.
I would never assume that a previously listed sale price is the standard value set in stone. Some deals are just better than others.
I am now in the habit of posting "Sold" in the title and then locking the thread after the sale.
To each his/her own if no damage is done to either party involved.
I really can't think of many, maybe any, mutually beneficial reasons to delete the asking price from the thread after the sale.
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....However the administration has shown no inclination to make a rule....
But I think there has been a ruling on this issue by Spark ... and the ruling is: is that every paying BF member has their choice to either leave or remove their prices.
What could be better than that?
It's a little nugget of liberty in a desert of rules and regulations ... I've chosen to cherish it for what it is-- everyone retains the same ability to pick it up, or leave it, as is.
I think that discussing this subject civilly in G,B, & U is a worthwhile exercise.
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Roundabouts 2005-2010 era.When would that be? I am familiar with the name ,but not the timeline. Removing prices has been a common practice on every forum I have been on(unless there was a rule) and as far back as I am aware.
It doesn't take much time looking at a knife purchase to find the range that people are posting them in. If the item is posted so infrequently that you can't find that range(or sells so quickly you can't see the price), then there really isn't a reliable range. At best the range is fairly wide, and it often gets down to how much you want it.
That said most probably copy cat the practice without much thought, the same way they post CONUS.
However the administration has shown no inclination to make a rule, so this may be more appropriate for Whine and Cheese.
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It is a little like "Groundhog Day". The subject comes up often and plays out the same each time-but I participate none the less
but there are always new members, that need to go through this. They are also likely to get the most from prices being left up(or think they would), since they may have no clue to pricing.
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My sentiments, exactly...this is the definition of the forum part of the name Bladeforums....let that sink in.It is a little like "Groundhog Day". The subject comes up often and plays out the same each time-but I participate none the less
And I must admit I always count on you as being one of the most civil BForumites to discuss things with.
I find it extremely annoying from a community perspective, it's next to impossible to get an idea of current pricing for the 2nd hand market and I have no doubt that this is exactly why it is being done. That said the exchange has nothing to do with community as we've seen countless times. Dog eats dog world.
Great, great discussion. As it were I've already posted a pretty comprehensive reasonable post on knifeswap regarding this very issue. In short I went with Leaving the prices up. Mostly and only for that forum/exchange though and it is entirely based on their rules, regs, and whole modus operandi if you will. Oddly enough I usually don't leave the prices up unless of course I forget or get lazy and forgot to mark it sold. That said I've only had a couple times where someone asked me what the knife sold for and I had no problem disclosing that amount. So for that community and situation I voted yes.
Let me say this whole discussion has got me thinking I may change my practice to leaving the prices up. Why I normally delete them (when remember to) is mostly it finalizes the deal and lets others know the knife is SOLD just as an $SPF would be. I also agree with the belief others stated the price sold really is only between the buyer and seller and often that price might be negotiated lower and the price left up doesn't reflect the price the knife sold for. In this world of rules and regs gotta admit it is nice to be so flexible and leave that up to the individual seller whether to delete or not. Too bad our government didn't have more of that right?
Removing the selling prices really helps protect the market if a knife was "drunkenly listed" or let's say emergency sold (for example a BountyHunter Ultratech for $220). Let's say this price of $220 was left up and a noobie comes along and thinks shucks I paid $325+ new but 3 weeks ago one sold for that so I'll list at $230. Now he (or she) leaves the sale price up and now you have 2 listed recently at this price. Another coms along and 1 more and repeats the process this time a bit lower that $220 because his cat is sick and needs the money or a vet bill (
) and now you have a brief market shift. Guess what happens when seller #5 or 6 comes along and wants to get full price plus shipping costs for his brand new Bounty Hunter? He might get lucky but he also might get severely haggled and demonized because .. "hey this knife sold for such and such here and there etc. and you are scalping the market."
What actually really bugs me though is when someone removes the whole listing once a knife sold. Anyone else like to browse the Exchange just to see what different knives people are into and what kind of price range they are in for fun? I've been turned on to some pretty sweet brands and makers I never heard of just by this alone as the general non-exchange forum area is so large anyway. I enjoy seeing what people are into and consequently what they aren't. Forgot just the pricing, removing whole listings suck as then the buyer has no recourse about a knife should the transaction turn sour and also we as spectators don't get to see what kind of cool knives people are into (or not). Want to talk about having a reference for prices and "information", how's removing a whole listing for you? Curious how the moderators feel about this.
Back to just the price though, as much as removing the price has been smooth sailing for me, gotta admit it is quite nice to see what other knives have sold for when I am considering listing one of my own. Thus based on this alone how it has helped me, I'm much more included to leave my prices up in the future.
Lastly, another argument for removing the prices is the pure fun and spontaneity of it all. If everyone removed prices then possibly the prices would fluctuate all over the place making for an interesting exchange. Going back to the Bounty Hunter (limited quantities available) example, with no immediate reference for past pricing you'd have sellers doing more guessing which may look like this.....Seller #1 $315 , Seller #2 $220, Seller #4 $345, Seller #5 $279. Whether a particular Bounty Hunter sells will be SOLELY determined on A) what the seller wants for it or believes it is worth (to him or a potential buyer) and B) what a buyer is willing to pay for the knife (what he or she believes it is worth to him or her). Thus it really magnifies and simplifies the whole process. After all isn't that what the exchange is all about? Talk about liberty, it really is because what one knife in said condition is worth to one person may or may not be worth the same to another. There's all sorts of reasons and intentions why people sell knives for the prices they do and why people believe knives are worth it to them. When those 2 things line up between buyer and seller that's where the magic happens. Thus not only does this simplify things but it puts an end to (what often happens over on Reddit) demonizing or chastising people for listing a knife at a certain price because they may or may not agree with it. Again, deleting the prices simplifies and returns the exchange to the magic of a sale being between the buyer and seller.
Let me say this whole discussion has got me thinking I may change my practice to leaving the prices up. Why I normally delete them (when remember to) is mostly it finalizes the deal and lets others know the knife is SOLD just as an $SPF would be. I also agree with the belief others stated the price sold really is only between the buyer and seller and often that price might be negotiated lower and the price left up doesn't reflect the price the knife sold for. In this world of rules and regs gotta admit it is nice to be so flexible and leave that up to the individual seller whether to delete or not. Too bad our government didn't have more of that right?
Removing the selling prices really helps protect the market if a knife was "drunkenly listed" or let's say emergency sold (for example a BountyHunter Ultratech for $220). Let's say this price of $220 was left up and a noobie comes along and thinks shucks I paid $325+ new but 3 weeks ago one sold for that so I'll list at $230. Now he (or she) leaves the sale price up and now you have 2 listed recently at this price. Another coms along and 1 more and repeats the process this time a bit lower that $220 because his cat is sick and needs the money or a vet bill (
) and now you have a brief market shift. Guess what happens when seller #5 or 6 comes along and wants to get full price plus shipping costs for his brand new Bounty Hunter? He might get lucky but he also might get severely haggled and demonized because .. "hey this knife sold for such and such here and there etc. and you are scalping the market." What actually really bugs me though is when someone removes the whole listing once a knife sold. Anyone else like to browse the Exchange just to see what different knives people are into and what kind of price range they are in for fun? I've been turned on to some pretty sweet brands and makers I never heard of just by this alone as the general non-exchange forum area is so large anyway. I enjoy seeing what people are into and consequently what they aren't. Forgot just the pricing, removing whole listings suck as then the buyer has no recourse about a knife should the transaction turn sour and also we as spectators don't get to see what kind of cool knives people are into (or not). Want to talk about having a reference for prices and "information", how's removing a whole listing for you? Curious how the moderators feel about this.
Back to just the price though, as much as removing the price has been smooth sailing for me, gotta admit it is quite nice to see what other knives have sold for when I am considering listing one of my own. Thus based on this alone how it has helped me, I'm much more included to leave my prices up in the future.
Lastly, another argument for removing the prices is the pure fun and spontaneity of it all. If everyone removed prices then possibly the prices would fluctuate all over the place making for an interesting exchange. Going back to the Bounty Hunter (limited quantities available) example, with no immediate reference for past pricing you'd have sellers doing more guessing which may look like this.....Seller #1 $315 , Seller #2 $220, Seller #4 $345, Seller #5 $279. Whether a particular Bounty Hunter sells will be SOLELY determined on A) what the seller wants for it or believes it is worth (to him or a potential buyer) and B) what a buyer is willing to pay for the knife (what he or she believes it is worth to him or her). Thus it really magnifies and simplifies the whole process. After all isn't that what the exchange is all about? Talk about liberty, it really is because what one knife in said condition is worth to one person may or may not be worth the same to another. There's all sorts of reasons and intentions why people sell knives for the prices they do and why people believe knives are worth it to them. When those 2 things line up between buyer and seller that's where the magic happens. Thus not only does this simplify things but it puts an end to (what often happens over on Reddit) demonizing or chastising people for listing a knife at a certain price because they may or may not agree with it. Again, deleting the prices simplifies and returns the exchange to the magic of a sale being between the buyer and seller.