Removing sold prices

[jlydon]

Yup, I like the prices to stay where they were.

 

[nephron]

This begs for a poll.

 

[PeteyTwoPointOne]

I love this discourse, but if we were to vote <formally or informally> ... I'd vote to keep the sales price policy as it stands currently...that is, each paying BF member retaining their liberty to do as they see fit with their own Exchange prices.

Less rules, more liberty-- in most things-- works for me!

At any rate, BF is Kevin's world, we're just living in it and it seems to be clear where his opinion of sales price postings currently stands.

 

[sgage1]

It's impo between the seller and buyer. Even most dealers once they have sold an item will remove the price. Also from the sellers end it does help to close the thread. I've experienced leaving the price and saying the item has sold I still get inquiries about it.

 

[JJ_Colt45]

I don't sell a lot but I can see both sides, and I used to leave prices up when I did sell something ... BUT ...

After having several inquiries even with posting sold and closing threads (price left up). And having a couple potential buyers continually PMing trying to use ONE past posted price to try get me to accept a lowball offer and just refuse take a simple no for an answer to their lowball offers. So I started just posting SOLD in place of the price and close the thread. It seemed to stop that.

As I said I haven't sold as much as many do, but it seems the last year or so prices are all over the place. And mainly I think due to a lot of new members that just sign up to use the exchange. That has really changed how I look at prices and even buying or selling. It's pretty easy if it's a catch and release, but models that aren't current not as easy anymore.

And I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, I think it's fairly easy to separate those from members who contribute outside the exchange. But it has made it more difficult to research fair prices, not just here but in general. For someone like me who normally doesn't sell a lot.

 

[David Mary]

I love this discourse, but if we were to vote <formally or informally> ... I'd vote to keep the sales price policy as it stands currently...that is, each paying BF member retaining their liberty to do as they see fit with their own Exchange prices.

Less rules, more liberty-- in most things-- works for me!

At any rate, BF is Kevin's world, we're just living in it and it seems to be clear where his opinion of sales price postings currently stands.

Yes. It is a privately owned forum. Nothing that is posted here is "public record", even if it is viewable by the public, nor is there any legal, moral or ethical code that requires prices (or any post content) to be deleted, or to remain. Liberté!

 

[on_the_edge]

I don't sell a lot but I can see both sides, and I used to leave prices up when I did sell something ... BUT ...

After having several inquiries even with posting sold and closing threads (price left up). And having a couple potential buyers continually PMing trying to use ONE past posted price to try get me to accept a lowball offer and just refuse take a simple no for an answer to their lowball offers. So I started just posting SOLD in place of the price and close the thread. It seemed to stop that.

As I said I haven't sold as much as many do, but it seems the last year or so prices are all over the place. And mainly I think due to a lot of new members that just sign up to use the exchange. That has really changed how I look at prices and even buying or selling. It's pretty easy if it's a catch and release, but models that aren't current not as easy anymore.

And I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, I think it's fairly easy to separate those from members who contribute outside the exchange. But it has made it more difficult to research fair prices, not just here but in general. For someone like me who normally doesn't sell a lot.

All people are fallible and there are many reasons they might still inquire after a knife has sold and the post closed, though reasons aside, I can see how that could be a PITA for you. However, it's just trading one problem for another IMHO—no more inquiries (or maybe just fewer inquiries) because no price is showing versus no point of reference for someone looking to sell or acquire the same item. I like the idea that someone posted about having a box that you put the price into that cannot be edited, but then what if you want to drop the price on the item? There clearly is no perfect solution.

I think Kevin probably is right to allow personal freedom to keep or delete the price as each individual sees fit, and I am willing to deal with that potential frustration. Now if we could only get folks to not post "in" in GAWs after the item has been given away or ask if an item is still for sale when the OP hasn't been here for 8 years, THAT would be a bonus!

 

[Mossyhorn]

Kevin's parameters for selling on this forum work for me. Remove the prices and photos if you like. For those who have a hard time researching prices, let them pay for it on Worthpoint.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

I love this discourse, but if we were to vote <formally or informally> ... I'd vote to keep the sales price policy as it stands currently...that is, each paying BF member retaining their liberty to do as they see fit with their own Exchange prices.

Less rules, more liberty-- in most things-- works for me!

At any rate, BF is Kevin's world, we're just living in it and it seems to be clear where his opinion of sales price postings currently stands.

My observation is that the administration, from moderators on up, try their best to stay out of the exchange threads. Only reluctantly do they jump in. They are not going to be looking for new ways to get involved.

 

[Campbellclanman]

I would like to add, before I wipe the details off the For sale thread, I copy and paste the complete thing and pm it to the Buyer so he/ she has that as a security and proof of the complete sales thread for themselves or mods if they ever are unhappy with the description of my Knives- of which I have never had a complaint., I then wipe the whole lot of my Thread- as its no longer the need for public knowledge, It cleans up space and just leaves everything tidy, Buyers Happy, I am Happy.

Greed has absolutely nothing to do with it all all- where did that come from?

I also usually ( because I am in NZ) end up paying more than 50% of the shipping as I will only ship using an express Overseas fully track and track courier- again at the buyers best interests which cost me more - I could make them pay for it all- but it costs a lot- somewhere $85 NZ Dollars believe it or not, but its guaranteed and I have never lost anything through this system, and to me a few $ out my pocket to make it a safe deal is worth it.

 

[hhmoore]

. Now if we could only get folks to not post "in" in GAWs after the item has been given away or ask if an item is still for sale when the OP hasn't been here for 8 years, THAT would be a bonus!

People can't post on a closed thread...But the likelihood of the masses suddenly deciding to to thread maintenance is pretty low.

 

[Dadpool]

People can't post on a closed thread

I suspect a lot of folks just don't know that they can close their own threads. We can't move them or delete them, and closing them also feels like it could be a mod-only thing (like moving and deletion).

 

[madcap_magician]

I suspect a lot of folks just don't know that they can close their own threads. We can't move them or delete them, and closing them also feels like it could be a mod-only thing (like moving and deletion).

Also honestly the process for closing a thread isn't super intuitive.

 

[hhmoore]

It's easier than it used to beView attachment 1584393

 

[nephron]

 

[Icarve2]

Na the prices here are a way to guage the market - the most collectible knives are never available at retail and ebay is over the top so nice to be able to get a more moderate idea of the market here - whats to hide?

 

[J.Mattson]

I don't see any reason why the decision should not continue to be left up to the sellers, that being said I do like being able to use past sales threads to gain a reference point for what I can expect to pay (or have to save up/budget) for a knife. It's nothing more than a reference point and and even for identical items prices can vary by a lot.

On a slightly related notes I've left the price up on all of my sales threads and the other day decided to go down a painful trip down memory lane looking at how little I got for some items that I, in hind sight, wish I still had in my collection.

 

[Gary W. Graley]

Prices removed, prices left in place;

Reasons to remove
1. A Reminder of past faults, as J.Mattson remarked it can be a sobering reminder of money lost, myself I see the lost as sort of a Rental fee, seldom gain back what was spent on it.
2. Buyer requests as he plans on selling it for just a bit more
3. As others have stated, it really isn't anyone else's business what you sold something for.

Reasons to leave
1. As a 'reference to current market value' I feel this is a misguided thing as you really don't know the entire situation of what prompted a person to sell something for a certain price,
...need funds to fund another knife
...car trouble/house issue
...medical problem
...loss of a job
all these things can factor in why someone sets a price as they do and trying to gauge what YOU will either pay the next guy or what you should set your price at, is very iffy at best.

My take on how I price things is to try and get back what I put into it, but even with any extras I may add, such as putting a super razor's edge bevel on there, or adding a custom lanyard with a bead or even a nice custom leather sheath, it never seems to sway the market to go for it as I think they see some other sale for the same knife at $xxx less than what I have it listed and will just wait it out.

So as some other guys have stated, it all boils down to the person selling and what he is willing to take for the knife/item, they know what kind of loss they feel is acceptable and that may not work for the next guy with the very same knife.

It'd be great if everyone was honest and fair, for the most part I believe that they are, but there are some that are only in it for the money and those guys, well just keep an eye out for them.

G2

 

[TOMBSTONE]

Personally I like when prices are left but as stated already there are alot of variables that don't always make the asking price a good guage for future sales. We don't know what the final price the item sold for. We don't know if behind the scenes a partial trade was involved even if the thread listed no trades. If someone is in a bind they may list or sell for well below the market value. I usually like to see prices mostly so if it was a knife I have been looking for and it sold for a great price, I can kick and beat myself up for not being up at 2:00 in the morning and missing out on the knife,lol

 

[rustysocket]

I disagree, and find the old listing prices very helpful regardless of whether the knife sold for that price or not.

My wife would find that information _helpful_ as well.....