Ridiculous budget blade-4 dollar Ozark Trails folders, good blade-pic heavy

Yo Mama said:
I literally had one of the 1$ ones fall apart coming out of the package it came in! I didn't even get to use it.
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Saw one someone left behind one day after cutting open the package, maybe to handle before buying or swiping. Guess they figured it wasn't even worth stealing. LOL
 
robgmn said:
Go spend the $4, then do a true review of the knife and post it here before you spout without knowledge.
And please don't reply with the line "my time is too valuable to waste on an inexpensive knife". If that trite comeback were true, you wouldn't be here.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
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Been there, done that. A knife is a tool, and I learned long ago not to skimp on tools.

Please, as a courtesy to the OP, don't reply as I don't want to muck up the thread any more. I was just stating my opinion. This is not that important to me. :)
 
Don't worry as I'm the original poster its fine with me to have this kind of discussion. 💀

I understand your hesitancy towards getting cheap knives, but they have a place. I have done things to this knife that I would no way do to more expensive knife. And it still held up with no problem. Lock has been reliable and solid.
 
I picked up the black and blue one a few months back and the Tan flipper around Christmas. Definitely the best sub-$4 knives I've bought. I filed the black and blue scales a bit around the edges as they were a bit sharp but that only took a few minutes. It had such an early lockup it didn't always want to engage at first but it broke in real quick. The tan one flips better and was sharper out of the box but I'm sure it just depends on luck really. It actually was shaving sharp as my arm had a bald patch after I got it. I've been carrying it quite a bit actually. Even if its 3cr or whatever its held up fine. For normal daily use even a cheap steel should be just fine if done correctly, unless your job requires a lot of cutting for extended periods of time. Might pick up a couple different models next time I'm in Walmart if there's going to be a new lineup soon.
 
ninjarabbi said:
I picked up the black and blue one a few months back and the Tan flipper around Christmas. Definitely the best sub-$4 knives I've bought. I filed the black and blue scales a bit around the edges as they were a bit sharp but that only took a few minutes. It had such an early lockup it didn't always want to engage at first but it broke in real quick. The tan one flips better and was sharper out of the box but I'm sure it just depends on luck really. It actually was shaving sharp as my arm had a bald patch after I got it. I've been carrying it quite a bit actually. Even if its 3cr or whatever its held up fine. For normal daily use even a cheap steel should be just fine if done correctly, unless your job requires a lot of cutting for extended periods of time. Might pick up a couple different models next time I'm in Walmart if there's going to be a new lineup soon.
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I've been really curious about these, I have the tan folder but I was wondering if there's any way you could swap the blades in the black/blue one with the tan? I like the look of the blue scales but would much prefer a a plain edge. Do they look like they'd be interchangeable to you?
 
Of all the stuff that gets argued about and put down on this board, 466 posts of enthusiastic discussion about homely folders made of butter knife steel. You can buy an 8CR13MoV knife of very good quality for $6.

This makes no sense.
 
RX-79G said:
Of all the stuff that gets argued about and put down on this board, 466 posts of enthusiastic discussion about homely folders made of butter knife steel. You can buy an 8CR13MoV knife of very good quality for $6.

This makes no sense.
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And for a little compromise in the steel you have to pay 33 percent less than for the $6 knife. 33 percent!!! Also the $4 knife is locally available in a shop where many have to go anyways. Thus no additional shipping costs and you can look at hundreds in person and pick best one. How cool is that? :-D

You still got me curious what is this $6 knife you were speaking of? :-)
 
RX-79G said:
Of all the stuff that gets argued about and put down on this board, 466 posts of enthusiastic discussion about homely folders made of butter knife steel. You can buy an 8CR13MoV knife of very good quality for $6.

This makes no sense.
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And for 33% more you can get an Opinel with 12c steel and a more positive lock mechanism.

Your point being?

Much like beauty, value (or lack thereof), is in the eye of the beholder.
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I own one of these, is it Great? Nope.
But I am not going t lend a guy at work my sebenza to cut packing material and have him accidentally hit the concrete floor...

If he does that with this knife, I can touch it up on a Butcher steel (plentiful here) and strop it on a cardboard box.
 
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NJBillK said:
And for 33% more you can get an Opinel with 12c steel and a more positive lock mechanism.

Your point being?

Much like beauty, value (or lack thereof), is in the eye of the beholder.
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I own one of these, is it Great? Nope.
But I am not going t lend a guy at work my sebenza to cut packing material and have him accidentally hit the concrete floor...

If he does that with this knife, I can touch it up on a Butcher steel (plentiful here) and strop it on a cardboard box.
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33 percent is a lot. Isn't it?
 
Like so many other threads, there are some people who just don't (and probably never will) get it.
Their loss.
 
Jens Schuetz said:
And for a little compromise in the steel you have to pay 33 percent less than for the $6 knife. 33 percent!!! Also the $4 knife is locally available in a shop where many have to go anyways. Thus no additional shipping costs and you can look at hundreds in person and pick best one. How cool is that? :-D

You still got me curious what is this $6 knife you were speaking of? :-)
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This SRM knife sells for $5.98 with free shipping. It is made with very good steel, has steel liners, held together with allen screws and is nicely machined and finished. It came very sharp and remained sharp after a fair amount of whittling.

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It isn't that I think these Walmart knives are poorly made or unfairly priced. I think that 420J2/3Cr13 is so hard to keep sharp that it barely qualifies as a knife steel. I just don't get why knife nuts would embrace a knife that whose most essential feature - a cutting edge - is so lacking.

We might as well have 400 posts about those wood or plastic knife models CRKT and Spyderco sell.
 
RX-79G said:
This SRM knife sells for $5.98 with free shipping.
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I make it a point to not purchase from a company that has used an axis lock or other trademarked item without consent.
While they may have (or have not), I am soured on the idea. Justified or not, I choose not to deal with them, ganzo, or the ilk. Nothing against the country and nothing political, I own one of these.
 
NJBillK said:
I make it a point to not purchase from a company that has used an axis lock or other trademarked item without consent.
While they may have (or have not), I am soured on the idea. Justified or not, I choose not to deal with them, ganzo, or the ilk. Nothing against the country and nothing political, I own one of these.
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Real question: Is the Axis lock patent active in China? If not, the violation of the law is in importation, not construction. The knife I posted is an original design by a company that makes lower end Spyderco knives.

The lines are mighty blurry.
 
NJBillK said:
While they may have (or have not), I am soured on the idea.
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I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of that cobweb-esque patent law system. I just see a design being used by a company that is another companies bread and butter (SRM 763).
If you don't mind unscrupulous business behavior such as that, that's fine. Buying one knife but not another from them is still supporting them with patronage.

But to insist that we should look the other way and purchase a companies product regardless is ridiculous.

You see value in what you get for your dollar, thats fine. I choose to see value in what my dollar supports.

You don't appreciate the knife, fine.
You haven't(?) bought one, fine.
You don't plan on buying one (?), fine.

But yet you insist on trying to persuade a thread worth of readers that a knife bought out of curiosity, for lending, a spare, (insert your reason here) isn't a just reason and we should support someone with a different moral compass instead?

No thank you.
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Can we please not further this conversation in this forum. This has been sidetracked long enough.
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Mods and OP: I apologize for the derail, I tried to keep as much politics out of my posts as possible and keep it focused on the knives and their parent companies.
-if you want me to delete these, let me know and they are gone.
 
NJBillK said:
I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of that cobweb-esque patent law system. I just see a design being used by a company that is another companies bread and butter (SRM 763).
If you don't mind unscrupulous business behavior such as that, that's fine. Buying one knife but not another from them is still supporting them with patronage.

But to insist that we should look the other way and purchase a companies product regardless is ridiculous.

You see value in what you get for your dollar, thats fine. I choose to see value in what my dollar supports.

You don't appreciate the knife, fine.
You haven't(?) bought one, fine.
You don't plan on buying one (?), fine.

But yet you insist on trying to persuade a thread worth of readers that a knife bought out of curiosity, for lending, a spare, (insert your reason here) isn't a just reason and we should support someone with a different moral compass instead?

No thank you.
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Can we please not further this conversation in this forum. This has been sidetracked long enough.
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Mods and OP: I apologize for the derail, I tried to keep as much politics out of my posts as possible and keep it focused on the knives and their parent companies.
-if you want me to delete these, let me know and they are gone.
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No, I would just say that declaring a manufacturer with strong ties to several US knife companies as being "unscrupulous" when they have broken no laws requires more cobwebs than understanding that a US patent only applies to the US.

If Benchmade felt their patent was important enough, they would have patented it in other countries. Which is why Ganzo and others aren't violating any laws.


I apologize if I'm not able to keep up with the mental gymnastics required to recognize the "immoral" behavior of knife companies while failing to appreciate the advantages of buying a knife that doesn't cut.
 
JoeMySwords said:
I've been really curious about these, I have the tan folder but I was wondering if there's any way you could swap the blades in the black/blue one with the tan? I like the look of the blue scales but would much prefer a a plain edge. Do they look like they'd be interchangeable to you?
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I'm not sure. The blade on the tan one is quite a bit wider so it might stick out. I suppose you could take the blade to a grinder or run it through a carbide a while to take some steel off, but god knows if the detent hole would line up so you might have to drill a new one. I would try swapping them myself just to see but after all the hassle I went through putting back together my Byrd Cara Cara 2 after polishing the pivot a couple years ago, I don't want to risk not getting them back together. I get you on the plain edge. Combo edge tanto is an especially weird combination but I guess its to make it look more "scary" to appeal not non-knife people. I'd say just get one and try it if you want. The blade isn't that bad on the black and blue one and it flips better once its broken in and oiled. I mostly don't like combo edges when I'm using the knife to carve because the serrations are generally where you can get the most force behind it on a plain edge but as its not really a carving or woods blade it should be fine for most occasional cutting tasks.
 
RX-79G said:
Of all the stuff that gets argued about and put down on this board, 466 posts of enthusiastic discussion about homely folders made of butter knife steel. You can buy an 8CR13MoV knife of very good quality for $6.

This makes no sense.
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Pretty much the same steel as in several Buck and Spyderco knives, and we all know how bad THOSE are...
 
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