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Ok, well.. I disagree. If you beat your knife through a log, and it breaks, that's your fault. Don't get me wrong. I don't care if people want to baton their knives and treat them like axes... but, I think it's crazy when they get mad when they break. It's not what a knife is for.

The -only- instance I can see where getting upset would be warranted, would be if the company who made the knife said "This knife is great for beating through logs!" Otherwise, it's abusive.
 
To be fair, that looks like a pretty piss poor tang design.
 
EMT_Lee said:
Ok, well.. I disagree. If you beat your knife through a log, and it breaks, that's your fault. Don't get me wrong. I don't care if people want to baton their knives and treat them like axes... but, I think it's crazy when they get mad when they break. It's not what a knife is for.

The -only- instance I can see where getting upset would be warranted, would be if the company who made the knife said "This knife is great for beating through logs!" Otherwise, it's abusive.
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I've read a thousand and one posts, seen a thousand and one videos all saying the same thing. A knife should fit the purpose it was built for. If it doesn't fit the bill, don't purchase it.

Some people like to purchase knives and put them on display or worse still, hide them in a box in the bottom drawer and only ever brought out to show off. Posers like that piss me off. I also think that's a waste of money.

I bought it with the idea of bashing it through logs in mind. He claimed it was a full tang design (which clearly it isn't). It seemed to fit the bill nicely, until that one evening when I felt the handle snap in my hand.
 
Planterz said:
To be fair, that looks like a pretty piss poor tang design.
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I'd have to agree, and in defense of the "guy at the shop" I think it was made to appear as a full tang.

Really though, using a knife like axe or pry bar will always run the risk of it breaking, some more so then others.
 
I dont see the problem with batoning with a full sized fixed blade. Sorry about what happened, that sucks. That handle looks like some cheap plastic of some kind and not FRN which would of taken a ton more abuse imo.
 
deluxewarplaya said:
I've read a thousand and one posts, seen a thousand and one videos all saying the same thing. A knife should fit the purpose it was built for. If it doesn't fit the bill, don't purchase it.

Some people like to purchase knives and put them on display or worse still, hide them in a box in the bottom drawer and only ever brought out to show off. Posers like that piss me off. I also think that's a waste of money.

I bought it with the idea of bashing it through logs in mind. He claimed it was a full tang design (which clearly it isn't). It seemed to fit the bill nicely, until that one evening when I felt the handle snap in my hand.
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That whole post confuses me. I'm not going to address the first two paragraphs, because they don't seem to even have a point.

So, just becase you bought a knife with something in mind makes it proper use of said knife? No, of course not. And, just because a knife has a full tang design, that makes it suitable for "bashing through logs"? Of course not. Again, I don't care what you do with your knives. But, it's foolish to get mad when they break while doing abusive tasks. "Bashing" a knife through anything is somewhat abusive. If you want a knife that is advertised for such things, look into getting a Busse or a ESEE. At least, if they break, you'll get a new knife for free.
 
deluxewarplaya said:
I've read a thousand and one posts, seen a thousand and one videos all saying the same thing. A knife should fit the purpose it was built for. If it doesn't fit the bill, don't purchase it.

Some people like to purchase knives and put them on display or worse still, hide them in a box in the bottom drawer and only ever brought out to show off. Posers like that piss me off. I also think that's a waste of money.

I bought it with the idea of bashing it through logs in mind. He claimed it was a full tang design (which clearly it isn't). It seemed to fit the bill nicely, until that one evening when I felt the handle snap in my hand.
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I happen to be both a user and collector. Some of my knives sit in a box staying brand new, so you're comments are not appreciated.

As far as your problem goes, that sucks. Sometimes knives break, but I will agree that the tang does not look good. Make a few calls and write a few emails to see if you can het the problem fixed.
 
'bout trashing knives...
it always pays to get a full tang knife
with an equally fully exposed tang that shows,
all just to be extra sure
about what exactly we're payin' for.
sympathize deeply about the loss.
but no sense in gettin' mad now, trash all has beens,
and move on to surer paths with greater confidence through all bitter lessons learnt.
 
I'm not familiar with Muela knives. But, if e.g. my Fallkniven F1 - marketed as a "survival" knife - broke while batoning I'd be really pissed off.
 
ouch.... chaulk that up as a lesson learned. definately consider investing in a knife and company that has a rep. for your intended use.
 
i watched the video without sound so sorry if the EP explains it but .... how is it possible to break the very end of the handle while batoning ? i can see the blade snapping where it meets the tang, the blade snapping in the in the log etc but not the part of the handle that's supposed to be in your hand snapping ... don't get it.

otherwise it clearly is a poorly designed tang.
 
Muela knives are very good knifes. why dont you take your or truck and rame it in a solid block wall (5 feet thick) at 100 mile per hour and then go tell the car or truck people that they make a bad design and they need to fix it stupid idiot.
 
Using the truck analogy, batoning with a fixed blade knife is more akin to towing rather than ramming your truck into a solid wall at 100 mph.
 
The links I looked at when Googling call the Muela Mirage a "tactical fixed blade knife" and it seems to be going for about 70 US bucks with a leather sheath. So even the name of the knife doesn't suggest its use is anything but "tactical" and even for tactical use you won't get much for 70 bucks.

Maybe you could turn what's left into a neck knife, using some power tools.
 
samid said:
I'm not familiar with Muela knives. But, if e.g. my Fallkniven F1 - marketed as a "survival" knife - broke while batoning I'd be really pissed off.
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Why? What part of "survival" entails beating your knife through logs? And, if you've got cord wood to split, you're probably not in that bad of a survival situation.
 
samid said:
Using the truck analogy, batoning with a fixed blade knife is more akin to towing rather than ramming your truck into a solid wall at 100 mph.
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hey the knife was not meant to be used as a ax. it is not meant to be used as a prybar. he is a very very very stupid person and we should take all of his knifes away so he wont hurt him self. give him a plastic knife to play with until he has more brains than a rock.
 
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