Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

bigeard09 said:
In the past I have aged fixed blade real stag bone knife handles by leaving the handle in a cup of very strong coffee or tea ( cold ) for several hours and have had decent results from this . If I were to do the same to a white bone handled slipjoint / folder do you think the internals of the knife , ie liners , backsprings etc would be affected by the immersion ?
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No affect on brass and/or German Silver bolsters (other than it might make it shiny) and no effect if stainless blades and backsprings.
Just be sure to dry and lube the joints when finished.

If carbon steel (RR uses T10 carbon steel) the blades might take on a slight patina, if you don't put a light coat of oil on the blades before dunking. (about the same coat of oil you'd put on a gun barrel and in the bore to prevent rust.)

Let us know how the bone darkened. 😇👍
 
bigeard09 said:
In the past I have aged fixed blade real stag bone knife handles by leaving the handle in a cup of very strong coffee or tea ( cold ) for several hours and have had decent results from this . If I were to do the same to a white bone handled slipjoint / folder do you think the internals of the knife , ie liners , backsprings etc would be affected by the immersion ?
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I left a T10 stockman in vinegar over night and the only thing it altered were the blades. Lots of clean up afterwards though which made me worry if the blades would be loose but no problems.
 
Maximumbob54 said:
I left a T10 stockman in vinegar over night and the only thing it altered were the blades. Lots of clean up afterwards though which made me worry if the blades would be loose but no problems.
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Acids are used to clean brass/copper/bronze/nickle silver/(German Silver).
The acidity of household/cooking vinegar isn't enough to damage steel.

(industrial cleaning vinegar is much more acidic - can't be used for pickeling or salad dressings. We used it for cleaning 500 gallon stainless steel tubs at SWIFTS, they boiled 10 or 12 turkeys a batch in, making the turkey rolls. (20 tubs every 4 hours of the three 8 hour shifts a day. Eight people per shift only cleaned the tubs. 15 opened cardboard boxes with two or 3 frozen turkeys in them, dumping the birds into the stainless steel cooking tubs. 2 guys broke down the boxes enough to put into the incinerator, for their shift.)
I don't know how many ladies were in the deboning section. At least 5 during the 3 to 11 shift I was on in high school.
 
afishhunter said:
The acidity of household/cooking vinegar isn't enough to damage steel.
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It sure ate up the edges on that T10. Didn't touch one bit of the stainless steel in the springs.

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Thread 'Another vinegar soak'

Saw where someone here had soaked a blade in vinegar to achieve something that looked a bit like black oxide coating. Decided to give it a try. Maybe don't do what I did and forget about it until the next day...

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Rough Ryder large stockman in T10. Black stuff had to be oiled and wiped the excess off for a bit before it would stop leaving black marks on everything. Once it stopped rubbing off I wiped it clean with a cloth and proceeded to carry it for a couple of months now. Didn't use it much since this was more of a corrosion test for carrying a...
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Maximumbob54 said:
It sure ate up the edges on that T10. Didn't touch one bit of the stainless steel in the springs.

M

Thread 'Another vinegar soak'

Saw where someone here had soaked a blade in vinegar to achieve something that looked a bit like black oxide coating. Decided to give it a try. Maybe don't do what I did and forget about it until the next day...

jqnv7D7.jpg


Rough Ryder large stockman in T10. Black stuff had to be oiled and wiped the excess off for a bit before it would stop leaving black marks on everything. Once it stopped rubbing off I wiped it clean with a cloth and proceeded to carry it for a couple of months now. Didn't use it much since this was more of a corrosion test for carrying a...
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Patina on the edges. Stropping with green rouge on the strop will make the edge bevels shiny again.

Good looking Classic Carbon II large stockman you have there. 😁👍
 
afishhunter said:
No affect on brass and/or German Silver bolsters (other than it might make it shiny) and no effect if stainless blades and backsprings.
Just be sure to dry and lube the joints when finished.

If carbon steel (RR uses T10 carbon steel) the blades might take on a slight patina, if you don't put a light coat of oil on the blades before dunking. (about the same coat of oil you'd put on a gun barrel and in the bore to prevent rust.)

Let us know how the bone darkened. 😇👍
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Thankyou for the information
 
I'm working on getting my knife collection into displays, I've got all my knives together in one place for the first time in a long time. Here's a picture of all the Rough Riders I've acquired over the years, these will be moving to a wall display tomorrow! It's nice to finally have them out where I can see them.

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Of course after I take the picture I find a couple that didn't make it into it. A green G-10 folding hunter and the little boot dagger that turns into a push knife. And the melon tester that is a current user. It's quite possible there might be a few more here or there lol.
 
Nixelplix said:
I'm working on getting my knife collection into displays, I've got all my knives together in one place for the first time in a long time. Here's a picture of all the Rough Riders I've acquired over the years, these will be moving to a wall display tomorrow! It's nice to finally have them out where I can see them.

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Nice collection! If you don't mind, what are the model numbers for two of the knives in the top row: the fourth from the left and sixth from the left? They have a dogleg look to them and bomb shields. Also, do my eyes deceive me, or do those two sawcut toothpicks have different shields? They look like they are both from the Sawcut Bone series. Thanks!
 
Rhinofly said:
Nice collection! If you don't mind, what are the model numbers for two of the knives in the top row: the fourth from the left and sixth from the left? They have a dogleg look to them and bomb shields. Also, do my eyes deceive me, or do those two sawcut toothpicks have different shields? They look like they are both from the Sawcut Bone series. Thanks!
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Yes those two toothpicks are from the same series and probably have the same model numbers but different shields because they came from different runs. The second and third knives from the left are also of the same little whitler model but have different shields because they were from different runs.

I can't find the exact model numbers for the
ones you are looking at but I found the same knives with different covers.

The far left is a Dog Leg stockman and the yellow handle version is RR890

The one on the right is a Reverse Gunstock stockman and the amber bone version is RR738
 
Nixelplix said:
Yes those two toothpicks are from the same series and probably have the same model numbers but different shields because they came from different runs. The second and third knives from the left are also of the same little whitler model but have different shields because they were from different runs.

I can't find the exact model numbers for the
ones you are looking at but I found the same knives with different covers.

The far left is a Dog Leg stockman and the yellow handle version is RR890

The one on the right is a Reverse Gunstock stockman and the amber bone version is RR738
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Thank you for that. Do you have any idea what is the name of the series that reverse gunstock came from? It is very cool, and I cannot find any reference to it anywhere. I assume you don't have the box, and there is no model number on the secondary blade?
 
I picked up this moose pattern when I visited Smoky Mountain Knife Works while in Tennessee a few months ago.

It's a little larger than their large stockman so it's not a small knife.
The scales are acrylic with a black liner and nickel silver spacers.

I bought a couple of others, and I'll try to get pictures of those too (I could have filled a shopping basket while there) :)

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Rhinofly said:
Thank you for that. Do you have any idea what is the name of the series that reverse gunstock came from? It is very cool, and I cannot find any reference to it anywhere. I assume you don't have the box, and there is no model number on the secondary blade?
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Sorry I don't remember the series but it was available in a variety of covers. I searched this thread and it looks like I bought it in 2015.
 
Nixelplix said:
Sorry I don't remember the series but it was available in a variety of covers. I searched this thread and it looks like I bought it in 2015.
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What a mystery. I can only find two Rough Rider reverse gunstocks in my records (which are obviously not comprehensive): a yellow composition #728 and amber jigged bone #738, both from 2008. There was a single knife, the #1423 trapper with a similar jigging pattern to your knife from 2013, but in a different color and it is the only one in that pattern I can find. I cannot any reference to that black reverse gunstock or its series anywhere.

Edit: found another reverse gunstock, #885 in Tortoise

Edit: I found your reverse gunstock. It is #1386 from the Bark Bone series, circa 2012
 
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