Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

You really do need this one: tool box, truck, boat, or purse:

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Back of the blade lets you measure things, and the wire stripping notch in the Screwdriver blade is the only one i have ever seen that is actually sharp:

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The liner lock on the Screwdriver blade works perfectly. It could not be better 'mated' to the blade tang. Note also that Spearpoint master blade is centered when closed:

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The adjustable wrench is smooth and holds it's opening perfectly under pressure.
Admit it: you don't just want this knife, you need it.
roland
 
In the same batch of goodies in the mail as my new super-duper "Be Prepared" Rough Rider knife-tool, there was another knife. I think it revealing to do a quick comparison of "Be Prepared" to this 'other' knife.

Here they are:

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You can see that both are close to the same size (excluding the wrench), 3 3/4" & 3 7/8" and both have nicely fitted jigged bone handles.

Here is the 'other' knife, open to show the blade:

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What you cannot see is sharpness and blade 'lock-up'.
The 'other' knife is sharp, ish. It won't shave arm hair or slice newsprint but will cut into soft wood if you apply enough pressure. The RR shaves arm so smoothly they seem to 'pop' off as soon as the blade touches them.
Blade play: The RR is Fixed Blade solid in the open position. The 'other' knife can easily be wiggled in the open position.
Comparison by price: You could buy 22 of the "Be Prepared" Rough Rider knives or 1 of the 'other' knife for the same amount of money.
Long Live Rough Rider Knives !
roland
 
^^^^ Now at a glance I thought that particular Rough Rider was a bit of a novelty, however after giving it a bit more thought, I'm digging it as a "old school" multi tool of a sort.
 
Does anyone have or played with the rough rider electricians knife that has the folding pliers in it?
 
That wrench rough rider is interesting, I wonder how it would hold up under actual wrenching, might be handy to carry in a vehicle.
I am liking the idea of trying patterns that I might not otherwise try. I just picked up a marlin spike nautical knife to give a try also, might come in handy for untying the occasional pesky knot.
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This BIG trapper is about to go huntin :D. White tail opens tomorrow so I'm loaning this big boy to one of the guys who hunt my land. As always it's RAZOR sharp out of the box.

Regards

Robin

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I think you guys have talked me into getting one of these. I like the looks of their sowbelly stockman have any of you tried one of them.
 
Hey Robin, that looks to be the same pattern RR that i used on a whitetail and posted earlier in this thread. Maybe you'll do 2 deer with yours and not need to sharpen.
roland
 
jth250, I have one of the RR Sowbelly Stockman and I really like it! It takes and holds a very good edge. Get one, you'll like it!

Ron
 
rprocter said:
In the same batch of goodies in the mail as my new super-duper "Be Prepared" Rough Rider knife-tool, there was another knife. I think it revealing to do a quick comparison of "Be Prepared" to this 'other' knife.

Here they are:

Jan2012024-3.jpg


You can see that both are close to the same size (excluding the wrench), 3 3/4" & 3 7/8" and both have nicely fitted jigged bone handles.

Here is the 'other' knife, open to show the blade:

Jan2012022-4.jpg


What you cannot see is sharpness and blade 'lock-up'.
The 'other' knife is sharp, ish. It won't shave arm hair or slice newsprint but will cut into soft wood if you apply enough pressure. The RR shaves arm so smoothly they seem to 'pop' off as soon as the blade touches them.
Blade play: The RR is Fixed Blade solid in the open position. The 'other' knife can easily be wiggled in the open position.
Comparison by price: You could buy 22 of the "Be Prepared" Rough Rider knives or 1 of the 'other' knife for the same amount of money.
Long Live Rough Rider Knives !
roland
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Obviously that "other" knife is a piece of junk. I'll be happy to take it off your hands for you. I'll even give you 5 or 6 Rough Riders in trade, even though they are obviously superior bits of cutlery. I'm a giving sort of person. ;)
 
Andy,the other knife isn't junk. It's a great pattern and 154CM steel. It just suffers some from careless workmanship and over-hyping by sheep.
roland
 
Ok guys I have 2 on order a sowbelly stockman and a rifleman stockman. Should have them in a couple of days.
 
Yeah I'm wondering that too.Does that mean popular among knife enthusiasts? I ask this because most people I know would not know the difference between Case and Rough Rider anyway.
 
I don't think liking the Case/ Bose collaborations makes one a "sheep". Only hardcore knife nuts care about the Case/ Bose series. I haven't seen much hype around them at all. Guys who have them and use them do seem to like them (myself included). I probably own 20 or so Rough Riders, as well as several Case/ Bose collaborations. And to imply that they are more or less equal is ridiculous. The difference in craftsmanship and materials is night and day.
 
The Rogh Rider shows no light between the liners and springs and has absolutely zero blade play. The "other knife" has gaps between liners and spring and a loose blade when open. Hence i agree that the difference in craftsmanship is night and day.
This forum is full of disappointed members who spend their money for a new Case folder and find it has substantive issues.
And the 'Flagship' Case offering, the Case Bose Collaboration knives, continue the Case Tradition of having far too many examples with substantial issues.
Of my last 50 Rogh Rider folders, not one has any blade play. (and that is much more than 50 blades) These are not preselected, merely what the ebay dealer happens to pull off his shelf and send me, unopened, so not pre-checked.
I received the 2 knives i posted here on the same day so the comparison of the cheap one being 'tight' and the very expensive one being 'loose' was particularly striking.
And i have used RR knives for many things including a RR Trapper to field dress a deer. I was awed by how slick it was. I posted that in this thread way back (maybe post 356 ?).
There should be no comparison between a knife that cost under $20 and one that cost $300. But the reality is that the $20 knife far exceeds expectations and the $300 knife falls far short.
roland
 
To each his own, sir. Variety, after all, is the spice of life! I personally prefer the looks, feel and function of Cases over Rough Riders, but everyone is entitled to his own opinion. If Rough Riders exceed your expectations, that's great! I don't think there is a right or wrong here. If Rough Rider makes knives that satisfy customers, then so much the better. The competition they give Case and other makers should give them an incentive to improve their products. Thank goodness there are knives out there that make all of us happy! I wish you all the best.
 
I understand what your driving at(rproctor). With production, even semi custom I might add, QC at times falls short. It's just a sad truth. Rough Rider puts out bad knives like every other manufacturer. Rough Rider though, doesn't hype, or really even advertise too terribly much, but they make a product that sells it self to a certain extent. That's what I like most about the company. You can actually buy Rough Rider 2nds on the wholesale level for a slightly discounted rate. So maybe the wholesaler themselves are culling out the bad knives and acting as a QC as a sort. All in all I've been even incredibly impressed with the quality of the RR's at the current time. Knives Illustrated had a real cool article some time back showcasing good "value minded" knives in the sub-10$ range, they mentioned all sorts of knives from Opinel , Old Hickory/Ontario as well as the now somewhat venerable and respected Rough Riders. Not saying RR>Case or anything like that, but on the individual level when it comes to mass production quality at times can be hit or miss.
 
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The RR yellow small Coke bottle I have came sharp stays sharp and sharpens up like a razor. I carves wood like a mad man. It has no blade play and a bunch of snap on the 2 blades. If I EDCd it for 20 years it would still be like it is now just sharpened down a bit I guess.
I have ha a few RRs that were not as perfect as the Coke bottle Jack but for the money they are a great value and I will probably buy plenty more for gifts and for myself. I see myself buying very few more Case and other more expensive slippies. The RRs are too good for the money and they become reliable users as opposed to things that sit in boxes and safes.
Bring me back to the days of inexpensive knoves at the drug or hardware stores. usable and loseable.
 
Quote billym: "usable and loseable".
That is a very good point. Despite being careful, pocket knives, especially when you carry and use them, do have a way of getting lost.
One of my main EDC's was my Jerry Halfrich "Small Woodsman". About 3 months ago i lost it somewhere on my own property, even though i 'always' made a point of staying focused when using it until it was safely back in the deep front pocket of my work pants.
I paid $650 for it and wish i had lost one of my Rough Riders instead.
roland
 
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