Rough Ryder Reserve: New Premium Rough Ryder Line

[Henry Beige]

A plumb bob! hah! it sure does. That makes it better for me.



Not to mention I'm not sure where I could even find strike anywhere matches anymore...
I'm sure online, but I couldn't possibly conceive a store that would carry them. I think the modern matches are called "safety matches"... and I'm sure that's for a reason, haha.

For years, I have had a couple of boxes of green tip “strike anywhere” matches in my cupboard. I am about halfway through the first box, but can’t find the second box anywhere, which prompted me to go looking. I went to the small local grocery where i found the others, but all they had was the “strike on box version”.

In any case, the Green Tips were a pale imitation of the old red tips, which you could light by throwing them tip-first on the sidewalk. The greenies would not light on a match-strike pull, a zipper or with my thumbnail. A smooth, clean bit of concrete would do the trick, but not much else.

 

[brownshoe]

Does "Chinese D2" not meet ASTM standards for being referred to as D2? I'd imagine (barring heat treatment quality) that for something to be called D2 it'd have to meet that standard. I'm hoping someone can answer that one- I know "Carbon Steel" or "440 Steel" terms are used to be ambiguous deliberately, usually when a budget steel is being used. I'd be surprised if SMKW calls out D2 and it's anything but real D2.

Why ASTM? Isn't it AISI for US?

From a D2 fact sheet.
D STANDARDS
EURONORM: X153 CrMoV12
Werkstoff Nb:W1.2379
AISI: D2
GB: Cr12MoV

There's a lot of nations with steel standards. China has its own standards for steel called GB. It's a modern country.

 

[Scott J.]

For years, I have had a couple of boxes of green tip “strike anywhere” matches in my cupboard. I am about halfway through the first box, but can’t find the second box anywhere, which prompted me to go looking. I went to the small local grocery where i found the others, but all they had was the “strike on box version”.

In any case, the Green Tips were a pale imitation of the old red tips, which you could light by throwing them tip-first on the sidewalk. The greenies would not light on a match-strike pull, a zipper or with my thumbnail. A smooth, clean bit of concrete would do the trick, but not much else.

Do they still make "Ohio blue tips"? Those things were great.

 

[Fisher1573]

I've been looking at Rough Riders more since this thread. I was disappointed with the springs on my last two Case Peanuts. I might give a RR Peanut a try. If their 440 is decent, I'd be willing to give their D2 a chance.

 

[EngrSorenson]

I've been looking at Rough Riders more since this thread. I was disappointed with the springs on my last two Case Peanuts. I might give a RR Peanut a try. If their 440 is decent, I'd be willing to give their D2 a chance.

honestly it’s been pretty eye opening. I don’t know if I’d buy more of their standard line unless they had a “must try” pattern come out, but I’ve definitely learned something about what can be accomplished by inexpensive knives. It’s honestly worth $15 to give it a whirl.

 

[cudgee]

I might give a RR Peanut a try. If their 440 is decent, I'd be willing to give their D2 a chance.

I have a peanut. They are really good, get yourself one. Comes really sharp and keeps an edge.

 

[EngrSorenson]

cudgee im not sure the folks at Rough Ryder ever knew they’d get such nice glamour shots. Good picture.

 

[cudgee]

cudgee im not sure the folks at Rough Ryder ever knew they’d get such nice glamour shots. Good picture.

 

[22-rimfire]

I've been looking at Rough Riders more since this thread. I was disappointed with the springs on my last two Case Peanuts. I might give a RR Peanut a try. If their 440 is decent, I'd be willing to give their D2 a chance.

The Marbles slip joints are D2 right now and inexpensive. The 440 is 440A just so you know. But honestly it doesn't do any worse than Case steel.

 

[Will Power]

I don't know about the composition of RR 440? stainless but I do know that the dozen or so RR knives I keep have ALL arrived extremely sharp and use does not make it rapidly blunt or difficult to sharpen. It appears better than CASE ss (which itself isn't bad despite 'knowledgeable' sneering at it from some quarters ) more than good enough for my pocket knife tasks anyway.

 

[B.F.U]

The Marbles slip joints are D2 right now and inexpensive. The 440 is 440A just so you know. But honestly it doesn't do any worse than Case steel.

In my experience it’s as good as Case Tru Sharp... but Rough Ryders don’t come with an edge that seems like it was ground on a 20 grit wheel.

 

[EngrSorenson]

In my experience it’s as good as Case Tru Sharp... but Rough Ryders don’t come with an edge that seems like it was ground on a 20 grit wheel.

Case advertising says it’s ‘micro serrations’- I’ve always just thought it was a way to save money. Some people swear by it but I never understood. Sharpening out the inconsistencies takes a while.

rough Ryder comes sharper, but it still takes me a while to work out the inconsistencies in the edge. The only thing I’ll say is one is more expensive that the other.

 

[brownshoe]

Case advertising says it’s ‘micro serrations’- I’ve always just thought it was a way to save money. Some people swear by it but I never understood. Sharpening out the inconsistencies takes a while.

rough Ryder comes sharper, but it still takes me a while to work out the inconsistencies in the edge. The only thing I’ll say is one is more expensive that the other.

Could you show some of those ads? I didn't find it on their site or the web.

 

[JohnDF]

I have more loyalty to the Case brand, so I have a bit of a bias, and I'm willing to pay extra for that.
Case isn't without their faults, I've had some pretty bad F&F from them too, so it's a gamble either way.

 

[johnnywizzo]

I didn't realize they had a purpose. I thought it was just a poor aesthetic decision. Does anyone know how well the nail nicks work for striking matches? Might be handy for my pipe smoking.

I've used them before for striking "strike anywhere" matches, and they worked very well for me, first try flame. I suppose some matches may work better than others. It does blacken the blade a bit, but if you need a fire in a pinch, you've got it.

"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they'll find you handy!" (Red Green)

 

[Fisher1573]

Thanks guys. I'm going to order a RR peanut. I wish they had a carbon steel like 1095. I love my patinas. They add character, and almost give a knife a "companion" feeling to me.

 

[hornetguy]

I've been looking at Rough Riders more since this thread. I was disappointed with the springs on my last two Case Peanuts. I might give a RR Peanut a try. If their 440 is decent, I'd be willing to give their D2 a chance.

Out of curiosity.... what did you not like about the Case springs? Too light? Too hard?

 

[Matt_WY]

Case advertising says it’s ‘micro serrations’- I’ve always just thought it was a way to save money. Some people swear by it but I never understood. Sharpening out the inconsistencies takes a while.

I also always thought that Case toothy grind was skipping a step to save a few dollars. Made me smile to hear that it’s actually now a marketing feature.

 

[joeradza]

Made me smile to hear that it’s actually now a marketing feature.

They're mimicking the software companies mantra of "it's not a bug, it's a feature."

 

[cudgee]

Thanks guys. I'm going to order a RR peanut. I wish they had a carbon steel like 1095. I love my patinas. They add character, and almost give a knife a "companion" feeling to me.

I'm sure you will be happy with it, they are just handy to throw in your fob/coin pocket when you cannot carry a larger knife. Love to see some pics. when it arrives. Have a good week.