Rough Ryder Reserve: New Premium Rough Ryder Line

hornetguy said:
Out of curiosity.... what did you not like about the Case springs? Too light? Too hard?
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I have one that I carry with good snap. When you pull the blades, it wants to open. But the last two I received both had weak springs. They don't "spring". When I pulled the blades open I have to pull them all the way and there is no snap at all. They just kind of lazily flop open. Closing them was the same. They have both been returned.
 
Fisher1573 said:
I have one that I carry with good snap. When you pull the blades, it wants to open. But the last two I received both had weak springs. They don't "spring". When I pulled the blades open I have to pull them all the way and there is no snap at all. They just kind of lazily flop open. Closing them was the same. They have both been returned.
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Yeah... those sound like defects... I've just never had a peanut with weak springs... not that I've had that many peanuts, but the ones I've handled have all been pretty nice. I do have a two blade copperhead that has a pretty light spring on the wharncliffe blade, but it's still about a 3 or so.

Those you sent back almost sound like they had a broken spring, having to pull them all the way open... I imagine Case made it right though?
 
Also, while anyone’s at it, I highly recommend picking up the Rough Ryder work knife while it’s back in stock. It’s not going to be the knife you throw in your pocket to impress your buddies, but if you like stainless and want a GEC Viper, this is as close as you’re probably going to get for a while.

mine has excellent walk and talk and the fit and finish are almost perfect. At $17 you can’t beat it.

this bodes well for the RRR’s.
 
hornetguy said:
Yeah... those sound like defects... I've just never had a peanut with weak springs... not that I've had that many peanuts, but the ones I've handled have all been pretty nice. I do have a two blade copperhead that has a pretty light spring on the wharncliffe blade, but it's still about a 3 or so.

Those you sent back almost sound like they had a broken spring, having to pull them all the way open... I imagine Case made it right though?
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In my experience smaller knives usually have the tightest springs. I sent pictures to Case with a warranty request before I decided to just return the second one too. I'm still waiting to hear back from them. I'm sure they will try to help me if I order another. But if my first RR nut is good, I would only order a Case for the CV. Fingers crossed!
 
EngrSorenson said:
Also, while anyone’s at it, I highly recommend picking up the Rough Ryder work knife while it’s back in stock. It’s not going to be the knife you throw in your pocket to impress your buddies, but if you like stainless and want a GEC Viper, this is as close as you’re probably going to get for a while.

mine has excellent walk and talk and the fit and finish are almost perfect. At $17 you can’t beat it.

this bodes well for the RRR’s.
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I have one of those on order. Almost wish I had bought two.
 
Railsplitter said:
I have one of those on order. Almost wish I had bought two.
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I’m in the fence about it, too. My first one turned out so good. I’d never use a second one, but the part of me that can never have too much of a good thing wants the second.

If they made one in D2? It’d be all over it. As it is the 440A isn’t half bad.
 
I visited my brother today and he has a yellow handled RR Trapper.

Both blades have good snap, there are no gaps at all around the pins, very small gaps where I did notice them, and the clip point blade LOCKS OPEN. And the color is very close to my yellow delrin knife. I was very impressed with the fit and finish for a sub-$20 knife.
 
Matt_WY said:
I also always thought that Case toothy grind was skipping a step to save a few dollars. Made me smile to hear that it’s actually now a marketing feature.
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It's not. Did a search and couldn't find it. Asked EngrS to provide a link and he couldn't.
 
I couldn't find the purported Case marketing literature that states a rough edge is a "toothy" design feature.
 
brownshoe said:
It's not. Did a search and couldn't find it. Asked EngrS to provide a link and he couldn't.
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joeradza said:
What link do you need?
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brownshoe said:
I couldn't find the purported Case marketing literature that states a rough edge is a "toothy" design feature.
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if I recall correctly, I read it sometime around 2016 on the Case information sheet that gets packed in the knife boxes, or perhaps on their website when they still used to offer knife sharpening. Unfortunately I don’t generally hang onto boxes or those slips. I do have one from ~2006 from a knife my father bought and never used, but there was no mention of the micro serrations.

I’m pretty sure I’m recalling this correctly, because that was the first time (and last time) I’d read about micro serrations.

perhaps someone can check one of their info sheets for me? Unfortunately the WR Case website doesn’t have that info anymore, and I’m not seeing the sharpening service anymore either.
 
jrawk said:
Shots fired at GEC. Competition is good. Excited to watch this brand progress, just like Civivi, and QSP, and CJRB. Id much rather buy american, but ya know what, when it takes overseas brands to push american brands to innovate again, everyone wins. I hope GEC notices and reacts to stay relevant.

John said above "As usual, they almost produce something nice, but have to do something funky." Have ya seen the GEC B&S knife? Or the pocket carver? Or that other funky #35 pattern? I'd prefer all three RRR patterns over those three GEC. YMMV.
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I like the pocket carvers appearance, I don't currently have GEC or even Case levels of money but if i did that pocket carver would be a decent contender for my money.
 
Fisher1573 said:
Thanks guys. I'm going to order a RR peanut. I wish they had a carbon steel like 1095. I love my patinas. They add character, and almost give a knife a "companion" feeling to me.
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Rough Ryder has some carbon steel options and i wish their peanut was one of the knives they offered in carbon steel.
 
The micro-serrations concept has been around for 30 years due to Dave Boye's dendritic 440C. It's a property of the grain structure of cast 440C. There was a knifemaker on this forum, Sean Perkins, who chisel ground small hand knives with micro-serrations about 15 years ago. Some believe coarse grinds are a good edge for everyday use.
 
brownshoe said:
The micro-serrations concept has been around for 30 years due to Dave Boye's dendritic 440C. It's a property of the grain structure of cast 440C. There was a knifemaker on this forum, Sean Perkins, who chisel ground small hand knives with micro-serrations about 15 years ago. Some believe coarse grinds are a good edge for everyday use.
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yeah the idea has been around, but is there any evidence of Case advertising it as a purposeful feature, and it not just being them giving their knives rough edges?
 
L.H.S said:
yeah the idea has been around, but is there any evidence of Case advertising it as a purposeful feature, and it not just being them giving their knives rough edges?
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unfortunately I can’t find the evidence I thought I saw once upon a time. Perhaps it died with the sharpening service from Case, but I can’t confirm that.
 
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