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Russian (Topor) pattern

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by Agent_H, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. jake pogg

    jake pogg

    374
    Dec 20, 2015
    Ugaldie,i was at a loss for where to start...A typology,in any real sense,does not exist for these.
    The regional types,late in the Industrial Age,were produced by the bigger manufacturies,their choice based on popularity of this or that model,the naming of them-strictly arbitrary,by preference for that specific shape in this or that region,as percieved by the company...

    So here's a very good and representative catalog of that,that of a Concern of L.,and P. Zav'yalov(a famous brand in the late 19th-early 20th c.c.)

    https://imgur.com/a/48exv

    (the bottom-most one on the right is labeled "splitting axe").

    And here's a similar scheme by the Finnish company Billnas,then a part of the Russian Empire,and producing these "Russian" models:

    https://imgur.com/a/dkW6k

    In this,i couldn't find a more detailed image....and so can't make out the first one...(but again,the naming of the types is arbitrary).

    #28 is called the "Archangelsk type"(in re: of a a city in a far North,almost against up Finland).

    #29 the Moscovy type.It has this peculiar,"broke-back" profile,no one knows why...

    #30 the Tallinn type.Tallinn,in Estonia,is a Gothic city in a Baltic state,long dominated by it's Germanic invaders/rulers...VERY little connection to "Russia".
     
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  2. Ugaldie

    Ugaldie Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 27, 2013
    Thank you for the information jake!
     
  3. jake pogg

    jake pogg

    374
    Dec 20, 2015
    Ugaldie,you're most welcome sir.
    (only a small token of appreciation for all the incredible info you've provided over the years about the Basque axes&culture....).

    Here's a typology by an archaeologist Vasiliy Korshun,of axes from 9th to 17th c.c.,http://arheolog.by/viewtopic.php?t=523

    What you'll see there are axes Entirely similar and consistent with many,(or all),Western European countries' archaeology.Across the board,only one attracts attention as a type not really met with anywhere else.

    It is designated by V.K. as Type 12 (Тип-is type in Russian,and the time-period,in centuries,is represented in Roman numerals ).

    Other people today,less formally,refer to it as a "Mangazei"-type,from the name of a trade-settlement in Western Siberia(lower Enisei R.) that the Russian(Moscovy:) traders have founded in 1600.

    I'll post some photos of that axe in a bit here,if i can.It is fairly unusual,in a number of ways,and (to me) a beautiful,and probably very functional tool.It's not exactly rare or uncommon to find examples of it for sale,in rural flea-market type places,but no one living today can say with certainty much about it,what it was for,or much else...
     
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  4. jake pogg

    jake pogg

    374
    Dec 20, 2015
    Some examples.First,a Type 12,and the views top and bottom.Oddly,but similarly in a way to the Finnish axe,the bottom of the eye is Much bigger...An inverted conical eye as compared to a compression-eye.

    https://imgur.com/a/8d8Ei

    https://imgur.com/a/2znE8

    Below is another one,refurbished and handled by a friend in StPetersburg,using as a guide the schematic of an 1930-ies find(one of three unearthed while digging Moscow subway;the only one with haft intact,drawing in the last image).

    https://imgur.com/a/rU972

    https://imgur.com/a/48Jx9
     
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