?s about defensive blade length based on actual training/experience

Dave Hunnicutt said:
After the "Can I legally carry it?" question is answered, carry the largest folder you possibly can. I carry the Tatanka almost every single day. Sometimes, I carry The CS Rajah II or XL Espada.

Here is how to think - Lets say you are at the mall. An Islamic terrorist is stabbing and beheading people. All you have is your knife you carry every day. A lot of thoughts would be going through your head. "Gee I wish I had a smaller knife" would not be one of those thoughts.

Knife size cannot take the place of skill and training. Small knives in the hands of trained people can be very effective. Those same people would even be more effective with a bigger knife. Bigger knives cut and penetrate deeper.

P.S. By the way, my hypothetical story is a very real possibility with the traitors we have running this country. They are importing them by the thousands.
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No offense dude, but if someone is stabbing people to death, the last thing you want to do is get into a knife fight. That's what guns are for.


Knife fights are brutal, and rarely have winners, if ever. Bigger knives cut and penetrate deeper, sure, but when you're attacking with a knife you're not supposed to be stabbing just anywhere. You're targeting key points, the throat, abdominal region and limbs. You're using jabs and slashes.


Knives are a good counter to getting jumped, but they aren't a good counter to other knives, and they aren't a good counter to guns unless you're Seal Team 6 and dispatching a watch tower guard.
 
DavidMN0 said:
Knife fights are brutal, and rarely have winners, if ever. .
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I was doing a homeless outreach mission in Toronto on October 1st, and we came across this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/stabbing-nuit-blanche-man-1.3787959

We were looking for a Tim Hortons that was still open (most close in downtown Toronto at 11pm), and we heard a yell.
Two of us headed around the corner; thought we might have to break up a fight.
Saw two guys standing there, one was holding his stomach.
Thought he'd been punched, till the blood started to flow...

He'd been stabbed twice in the torso (found that out later from news reports...he was to busy trying to hold his blood inside to see at the time).
I was able to keep people back while waiting for the paramedics to arrive.
He started to lose consciousness, so I loudly told him to stay awake, and that he'd be okay (I didn't know if he'd be or not...a lot of blood was coming out of him).

The bicycle paramedics got there in two minutes (one of his buddies ran off to get their attention).
The ambulance was there in 4 minutes.
The first of the cops showed up in about 6 minutes.
That's all rather quick, but it felt like hours at the time.

The guy who got stabbed was only 17, and it was a random attack; he was out with his friends for the all night art and performance art festival.
He was taken to the hospital in critical condition, and required emergency surgery.

Didn't look fun; it ruined his whole night (and at least the next few days).

You don't want to get stabbed.

Oh by the way, these things happen fast.
We were at the scene no more than 20 seconds after the initial yell, and the guys who had been involved in doing the stabbing had already run off down the street.
And it was a damn busy street too; literally thousands of people on it.

So yeah, there ain't gonna be a chorus of finger snapping leading up to the main event, where you'll be able to wrap a jacket around your arm and go into your best knife fighter's stance.
 
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Sure. A gun is superior. But, not everyone can carry a gun. A Rajah II could literally take a persons head off if you came at an attacker from the rear while he is inflicting damage on someone else. It would also reach vitals better than a puny 3" folder.

Bigger is better.
 
Dave Hunnicutt said:
I don't notice the size of the Tatanka or the Rajah II in a pair of Levis. The XL Espada with it's 7.5" blade is not quite as easy to carry. But, still no big deal.

One other very important thing. I do not carry a knife because I think I am going to stand toe to toe and duel someone like in the typical knife fighting class. A knife is a last ditch tool to stop a mass murder in process where my best chance is to ambush an attacker mowing down people with a gun or stabbing people with a knife. This is where a big knife is KEY. You need a big knife that will give you penetration to hit something important or the capacity to remove a limb (Rajah II / XL Espada). If you are fighting fair, you are doing something wrong.

It is a different world now.

P.S. I carry a G-10 Dragonfly for small tasks.
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Different strokes and all, but if I'm going to carry a knife with a 7.5" blade, it will not come broken out of the box...
 
As this was posted in the Spyderco forum, you might ask their moderators to shut down the political content.
 
Esav doesn't learn. The goatfucker Islamists want to kill him more than me.

It is not political if it is true. The muslim terrorists kill people in public places. Esav, you are a punk.
 
The idiot moderator must be a liberal. The example of the goat fucker muslims killing people offended him. Why you carry a knife is as important as carrying a knife. He should know better as a Jew. The muslims want him dead more than the rest of us.
 
Dave Hunnicutt said:
Sure. A gun is superior. But, not everyone can carry a gun. A Rajah II could literally take a persons head off if you came at an attacker from the rear while he is inflicting damage on someone else. It would also reach vitals better than a puny 3" folder.

Bigger is better.
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Vitals will not reliably STOP your attacker. Despite what what the movies show, or what Applegate wrote, people do not burst into flame or fall over and stop moving just because they're bleeding out, which is how vital strikes kill (with the exception of the brain). But they DO get a xtremely pissed off knowing they're gonna die. So even if you severed an aorta somehow, and had say 15 seconds to wait for the guy to die, consider how long that 15 seconds lasts in life or death.

Kool-aid unfortunately continues to reign supreme.

P.S. Ballsy to call out a veteran moderator like that. Wonder how long it'll take to bleed out from that one. . .
 
I took an improvised SD class with Michael Janich a few years ago and he proved that blade length really doesn't matter. Carry what you can.
 
stabman said:
I was doing a homeless outreach mission in Toronto on October 1st, and we came across this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/stabbing-nuit-blanche-man-1.3787959

We were looking for a Tim Hortons that was still open (most close in downtown Toronto at 11pm), and we heard a yell.
Two of us headed around the corner; thought we might have to break up a fight.
Saw two guys standing there, one was holding his stomach.
Thought he'd been punched, till the blood started to flow...

He'd been stabbed twice in the torso (found that out later from news reports...he was to busy trying to hold his blood inside to see at the time).
I was able to keep people back while waiting for the paramedics to arrive.
He started to lose consciousness, so I loudly told him to stay awake, and that he'd be okay (I didn't know if he'd be or not...a lot of blood was coming out of him).

The bicycle paramedics got there in two minutes (one of his buddies ran off to get their attention).
The ambulance was there in 4 minutes.
The first of the cops showed up in about 6 minutes.
That's all rather quick, but it felt like hours at the time.

The guy who got stabbed was only 17, and it was a random attack; he was out with his friends for the all night art and performance art festival.
He was taken to the hospital in critical condition, and required emergency surgery.

Didn't look fun; it ruined his whole night (and at least the next few days).

You don't want to get stabbed.

Oh by the way, these things happen fast.
We were at the scene no more than 20 seconds after the initial yell, and the guys who had been involved in doing the stabbing had already run off down the street.
And it was a damn busy street too; literally thousands of people on it.

So yeah, there ain't gonna be a chorus of finger snapping leading up to the main event, where you'll be able to wrap a jacket around your arm and go into your best knife fighter's stance.
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Exactly my point. Glad to see someone else knows how ridiculously impractical the idea of knife v. knife is. Dave seems to be living his life in Call of Duty.
 
This thread is a trainwreck!

I like knives! I do not like people who are filled with hate!

Can we please stick to talking about knives?
 
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Dave Hunnicutt said:
Here is how to think - Lets say you are at the mall. An Islamic terrorist is stabbing and beheading people. All you have is your knife you carry every day. A lot of thoughts would be going through your head. "Gee I wish I had a smaller knife" would not be one of those thoughts.
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you have some interesting fantasies about how you're gonna stick someone.
 
Sorry, guys, I wanted to remove the rest of the trash that Hunnicut posted, but it's a mess. I am afraid I would just make it worse.

When you see a troll like this, do not respond. Do not quote him.
 
David Lowry said:
I took an improvised SD class with Michael Janich a few years ago and he proved that blade length really doesn't matter. Carry what you can.
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That sounds interesting David.
Do you remember how he proved it?

In practicing with swords only 6 inch (not much vs total blade length) seems to make a big difference. You can poke the opponent but he can't reach you.

Is a length advantage less in knife vs knife.
Or was it simply knife vs unarmed attacker?

Thank you.
 
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