S110V or ZDP-189

Just watch out for that "aja250" on ebay...dunno 'bout him...been told he's awfully "shady."








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whitemountainknives seems trustworthy seller. His feedback is 100% over 6800 sales. And I feel in our communications that he is sincere and helpful. He sold many ZDP-189 and S110V versions of Kershaw knives on ebay. He's like authorized seller.
 
Yultuz, you do seem to be one that likes the high performance steels. I really reccomend the SG2 bladed Kershaws. They don't seem to get the publicity yet their performance puts them in the super steel catagories IMO. The one I bought ( JYD2, Ti/SG2) came sharp enough to whittle a hair without trouble. One of two sharpest out of the box knives I've seen in over 30 years of collecting. It's the steel that the high end Shun Elite knives uses, and is very similar to Falknivens "3G" steel.

Good luck, Joe
 
The Mastiff said:
Yultuz, you do seem to be one that likes the high performance steels. I really reccomend the SG2 bladed Kershaws. They don't seem to get the publicity yet their performance puts them in the super steel catagories IMO. The one I bought ( JYD2, Ti/SG2) came sharp enough to whittle a hair without trouble. One of two sharpest out of the box knives I've seen in over 30 years of collecting. It's the steel that the high end Shun Elite knives uses, and is very similar to Falknivens "3G" steel.
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Yes I like high performance steels. I just looked at:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6176815
Some people says it is like S30V or AUS-8 and worse than ZDP-189. Some people objects it and says it is better than ZDP-189. Could you give me the contents of SG2? Is it wear/stain/rust/corrosion resistant? If yes, more resistant than ZDP-189? As far as I glanced at internet, it may be tempered to 64-66 HRC. Can you compare it with ZDP-189?
 
The Mastiff said:
They don't seem to get the publicity yet their performance puts them in the super steel catagories IMO. The one I bought ( JYD2, Ti/SG2) came sharp enough to whittle a hair without trouble.
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+1 :thumbup:

SG2 is wonderful. I recently parted with a SG2 Blur to a fellow on the forums here, and now I don't have a carry model. I think another JYDII Ti/SG2 is in my future and destined for a trip to STR to be converted to tip up :D
 
Some people says it is like S30V or AUS-8 and worse than ZDP-189. Some people objects it and says it is better than ZDP-189. Could you give me the contents of SG2? Is it wear/stain/rust/corrosion resistant? If yes, more resistant than ZDP-189? As far as I glanced at internet, it may be tempered to 64-66 HRC. Can you compare it with ZDP-189?
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I try to stay from "better or worse" comparisons as they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Those strengths and weaknesses may or may not be usefull to me.

I find it takes an edge I like better than S30V. More like ZDP in that regard, or maybe BG42. Wear resistance is good, but I've not tested it. I just like the edges it is capable of taking, and the high edge stability it shows for such a wear resistant steel.

Yes, I put it in the ZDP category as far as quality, cleaness of steel, edge taking, corrosion resistance perhaps a bit better. .

All in all it is a great cutting steel that is the top of the line cutlery steel produced by the company that makes it. That company also makes VG1, VG2, VG5, VG10, and several more good steels, so that's saying a lot.

I believe the RC will be more in the RC 62 area than the RC 64 to 66 like ZDP . I don't know of any impact results test so I can't comment on either.

The bottom line is it's a great, high quality slicer type steel as opposed to chopping type steel. I've yet to hear any complaints about it. I certainly like and use the knives I have with that steel and have no hesitations about referring it to others. Joe
 
The SG2 Blur is the only knife I considered buying a second. Unfortunately, they have all been sold (as far as I know). There are probably some for sale on the secondary market, but I don't know much about it.

If Kershaw does decides to make a S110V Blur, it will definitely be at the top of my "want it" list for sure.:)
 
There is no SG2 knife on ebay.
The Mastiff, as far as I know Cold Steel uses VG1 and VG1 isn't a good steel in fact.
 
Steel quality is all in the heat treatment. I have seen some really nice blades out of Kershaw in AUS8 even though most people think of it as a low end steel.
 
I was just looking at the 2 myself. Glad all this useful info is here. I like the shallot in CPM-110V & Sandvik 14CZN/ZDP189 both resonable at $50 for the 110 & $60 for the ZDP. I will have to look into the JYD in that SG2 steel. I like these new steels.
 
I have been very pleased with vg-1 from cold steel. I only have one knife, at this time, with this steel, a mini-hunter. It very fine grained and takes a very sharp edge. If this steel isn't a good steel, in fact, I am prepared to be completely wow'ed by s110v and zdp-189.

The Ti-SG2 jydII has a titanium frame and a fairly uncommon super steel. Every report of it I have seen has been very favorable. This knife should be able to compete nicely with strider and chris reeves, but that is only my opinion (better steel and Ti frame but not as tight tolerences(?)).
 
The Mastiff, as far as I know Cold Steel uses VG1 and VG1 isn't a good steel in fact.
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Yultuz, are you busting my chops? I'm taking time to explain things to you and this is what you say? Ok, you don't like VG1. You have heard of VG10 right? You know that's considered a very good steel right?

Have you checked into SG2 yet and found out more about it?

Do you have a VG1 knife? can you tell me what's wrong with the steel? Joe
 
The Mastiff said:
Ok, you don't like VG1. You have heard of VG10 right? You know that's considered a very good steel right?

Have you checked into SG2 yet and found out more about it?

Do you have a VG1 knife? can you tell me what's wrong with the steel? Joe
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I couldn't find more information about the details of SG2 steel on internet and forum sites. Also, there's no information about its corrosion resistance.
I found 4-5 Kershaw JYD II/SG2 for $150 on ebay.
One year ago, I'd have planned to buy Cold Steel Voyager 2. I searched VG1 steel on forums and saw noone knowed much about it and everybody mocked about it and thought it was under VG-10. Just look at:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409934
Its chromium is just 13%. So you'll meet corrosion/rust on blade.
 
Does Kershaw plan to use S110V in another model? In fact, JYD II is very nice model which fits to me and I prefer it to Shallot. JYD II/S110V would be wonderful.
 
Its chromium is just 13%. So you'll meet corrosion/rust on blade
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13% to 15%. You haven't tried the steel yet so you can't really judge it.

I like it. I like VG10 also. Different steels in the same line. There is a lot more.

Information about the line of steels put out by Takefu special steel company
http://www.e-tokko.com/eng_original_list.htm

You seem to make a lot of assumptions and are quick to discredit steels you haven't used. Joe
 
I wonder how much of the mocking was due to Cold Steel's habit of really hyping up all of their products. They seem to not get a lot of respect on the forums. I would rank it at least up with vg10 in my experience. I like it a lot, it seems very fine grained and takes a very sharp edge and retention is a step up from most common higher end steels.
 
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