S90V or S125V Military sprint run.

Whether S125V goes on the Para or the Mili, I don’t care. Either of those knives would be better for me than the Native, which doesn’t have an adjustable pivot, meaning I can’t get one.
 
What about sharpening of this super-hard steels on the field? I think it wouldn't be an easy job...
 
Golbat said:
What about sharpening of this super-hard steels on the field? I think it wouldn't be an easy job...
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What knife have you ever had that was difficult to sharpen because it was too hard?
 
Carl64: one of my friend done rather hard cutting tests with the Manix (S30V). He said, it took lots of time to reprofile the edge to the original angle (much longer than with 440C, ATS34 or VG-10) _at home_ with a hard, coarse waterstone. (Now I know, I must carry with you to the field a coarse diamond sharpener, or I must spend a lot of time to restore a heavy dulled blade.)
Resharpening S30V compared to "traditional" carbon steels a much harder job, it's a known fact, I think. ;)
 
Golbat said:
Carl64: one of my friend done rather hard cutting tests with the Manix (S30V). He said, it took lots of time to reprofile the edge to the original angle (much longer than with 440C, ATS34 or VG-10) _at home_ with a hard, coarse waterstone. (Now I know, I must carry with you to the field a coarse diamond sharpener, or I must spend a lot of time to restore a heavy dulled blade.)
Resharpening S30V compared to "traditional" carbon steels a much harder job, it's a known fact, I think. ;)
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Spyderco does not, as I can recall, make their s30v blades harder than their VG10 blades. I think Sal said something like "around 60" or "near 60" for either.
 
Golbat said:
Carl64: one of my friend done rather hard cutting tests with the Manix (S30V). He said, it took lots of time to reprofile the edge to the original angle (much longer than with 440C, ATS34 or VG-10) _at home_ with a hard, coarse waterstone.
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If the stone is actually hard then it is of very low quality, coarse waterstones should be really soft, they should hollow almost immediately when you use them. With the right x-coarse stone you can rip steel off of S30V easily.

I took my small Sebenza last night which had several chips in the edge of about 0.5 mm deep, it is took maybe 2-3 minutes to remove them. This isn't sharpening but major edge reshaping and if you need to do this in the field then something is wrong.

Actual sharpening time is maybe 10-20 seconds, even if you blunt the edge down to 5% or so of optimal. Just set the edge properly and micro-bevel and you can ignore machinability when sharpening because all you are sharpening is about 1/10 of a mm of steel.

Just a note, earlier there was a comment S125V had the highest obtainable hardness of any CPM stainless steel, 62-64 HRC, ATS-34 can be hardened to 65 HRC with an oil quench + cold and tempered at 212 F.

-Cliff
 
Cliff: thanks for the info! I'd like to ask, wich is better: an X-coarse diamond or a coarse waterstone for sharpening in the field? (Of course, theoretically. You know, time is critical when you are below zero temperatures and you must make fire or/and make a shelter really fast... ;) )
 
Waterstones will sharpen much faster but they need a lot of water to do so well. They are also really brittle and will break easily if dropped. There is also usually not a need to remove massive amount of metal. I carry a small fine/x-fine dmt folding hone for necessary touchups.

-Cliff
 
A Military in S125 with a frame lock. I'd be at the ATM in a heart beat. As for S90V vs S125V. Why go only part way. If one is going to upgrade, upgrade to the best currently available.
 
Still waiting to hear where to place my order. I soooo hope this become a reality.
 
The Military guys got their carbon fiber, now give the Para Military fans a special editions knife!!!
I would snatch up a new Para so fast it crazy:eek:
 
I don't believe there is another knife company as "in tune" with what their legions of admirers are looking for, or as open to input from these folks as to the direction to follow in developing these new innovations in their ever growing line up of quality knives!

The new SALT series is testimony in itself of this insightful thinking in filling the demands of those users subjecting their knives to extreme environments. As an avid striper fisherman, the offering of Salt series is unbelievably good news!

Now, to possibly offer S90V or S125V in the line up, usually limited to custom makers, is just another example of the innovative and insightful thinking so prevalent in this great company.

There is a reason there is such a large group of dedicated Spyderco owners, this recent development is just ONE example of the reasons we own so many Spydercos.

I cast my vote for the Para in S90V......:)

Treadwell
 
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