Sabenza. Is it worth it?

syltetoy said:
Come on get real! I just cannot see the $400 worth in a piece of metal to take a photo of and have the fanboy's chant Ooo AHh as no one else will know or care what a Sebenza knife is and its really just an illusion as a Buck 110 will out perform it in all manners for $30 and that's the facts!
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Do the same thing? They both can cut, but that's where it stops

The buck 110 is a great knfe. I own many. Four from the custom shop, in stag, cocobolo, ATS-34, S30V, etc. etc. etc. Some that are probably older, than you. Ive been using them for almost 30 years. But they are not in the same class as the sebenza.

I use to put the sebenza down (too), made fun of it. Afterall, that is allot of money!

But honestly, when you've really carrried and used one, it is an eye opener.

Yes, they both can cut, but the sebenza is much more rock solid, than a 110. I remember I had a lock fail on a 110 many years ago. And it wasn't abused, it was under normal use (cutting).

Both knives are really good knives, but the sebenza is quite a few notches above. There really isn't much of a comparison.

You could take an old timer cave bear, and it can cut just like the 110. Unless were talking about the newer 110's (that have been made for quite a numder of years now) with the 420HC, which really does not have good edge retention.

Usually the people who do not know the difference, are the ones who hardly use their knives, or who thinks its normal to sharp the blade (quite) often.

And quite honestly, I think most people who own sebenza's, do not own them to have fans, they really enjoy using them.

Now, this is not to insult you by any means, so please do not take offense (as I really do not mean to). I do understand your opinion. But if you owned one and used it. You may be surprised.
 
rev_jch said:
Do the same thing? They both can cut, but that's where it stops

The buck 110 is a great knfe. I own many. Four from the custom shop, in stag, cocobolo, ATS-34, S30V, etc. etc. etc. Some that are probably older, than you. Ive been using them for almost 30 years. But they are not in the same class as the sebenza.

I use to put the sebenza down (too), made fun of it. Afterall, that is allot of money!

But honestly, when you've really carrried and used one, it is an eye opener.

Yes, they both can cut, but the sebenza is much more rock solid, than a 110. I remember I had a lock fail on a 110 many years ago. And it wasn't abused, it was under normal use (cutting).

Both knives are really good knives, but the sebenza is quite a few notches above. There really isn't much of a comparison.

You could take an old timer cave bear, and it can cut just like the 110. Unless were talking about the newer 110's (that have been made for quite a numder of years now) with the 420HC, which really does not have good edge retention.

Usually the people who do not know the difference, are the ones who hardly use their knives, or who thinks its normal to sharp the blade (quite) often.

And quite honestly, I think most people who own sebenza's, do not own them to have fans, they really enjoy using them.

Now, this is not to insult you by any means, so please do not take offense (as I really do not mean to). I do understand your opinion. But if you owned one and used it. You may be surprised.
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As I stated my father and sister are knife dealers and resellers down south, He's from Georgia. My sister specializes in marketing. He carries an old timer stockman. The business name is not important other than the fact I have a lot of inside information as to who makes what and where it made and how its made and what it cost to make it and on and on. . .

A friend of his insisted that I check out his Sebenza for a few days as I told him it was too much money for me to spend on a knife. It was nice and the blade was thicker than a M-Tech clone I compared it with but really the M-Tech was nearly as smooth and did the same job for me. The finish was much better on the Sebenza but really I don't like the style of either the M-Tech copy or the Sebenza and would be just as happy with the $5 M-Tech as the $400 Sebenza. I carry a small canoe (brand doesn't matter)
 
syltetoy said:
It was nice and the blade was thicker than a M-Tech clone I compared it with but really the M-Tech was nearly as smooth and did the same job for me. The finish was much better on the Sebenza but really I don't like the style of either the M-Tech copy or the Sebenza and would be just as happy with the $5 M-Tech as the $400 Sebenza.
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Anything you say from here on out , is dismissed as BS in my opinion. Anyone who makes a statement like that has absolutely no clue about knives at all.
 
syltetoy said:
As I stated my father and sister are knife dealers and resellers down south, He's from Georgia. My sister specializes in marketing. He carries an old timer stockman. The business name is not important other than the fact I have a lot of inside information as to who makes what and where it made and how its made and what it cost to make it and on and on. . .
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As far as I know, it's pretty well known where and how Sebenzas are made. Their cost to make can't be figured out just on materials; you have to factor in the cost of the equipment to obtain such tight tolerances and the time required to make the knives. I believe there's a video for sale on the CRK site that describes the process of making the Sebenza.
 
Really? I use to sell knives too. Years ago. ...I've also been making knives for almost 30 years now.

Now, I have allot of info myself, from over the years. But if you have that much more? Your doing much better, than I am, and many dealers and makers also.

Now, if you are saying the M-tech, was just as smooth, and did the same job as the sebenza? Your really not going to get anyone to believe it. Unless, they don't know anything about knives (other than they cut, when they are sharp).

Not to sound rude here, but that really is beyond far stretching at this point.
 
John T Wylie Jr said:
Anything you say from here on out , is dismissed as BS in my opinion. Anyone who makes a statement like that has absolutely no clue about knives at all.
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Yeah, that one kinda sealed the deal for me also. I just wonder which flea market pops set up at to sale his m-techs?;):)
 
rev_jch said:
Really? I use to sell knives too. Years ago. ...I've also been making knives for almost 30 years now.

Now, I have allot of info myself, from over the years. But if you have that much more? Your doing much better, than I am, and many dealers and makers also.

Now, if you are saying the M-tech, was just as smooth, and did the same job as the sebenza? Your really not going to get anyone to believe it. Unless, they don't know anything about knives (other than they cut, when they are sharp).

Not to sound rude here, but that really is beyond far stretching at this point.
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I'm pretty sure he's just a troll. It wasn't even an M-tech, it was an M-tech clone!
 
syltetoy said:
As I stated my father and sister are knife dealers and resellers down south, He's from Georgia. My sister specializes in marketing. He carries an old timer stockman. The business name is not important other than the fact I have a lot of inside information as to who makes what and where it made and how its made and what it cost to make it and on and on. . .

A friend of his insisted that I check out his Sebenza for a few days as I told him it was too much money for me to spend on a knife. It was nice and the blade was thicker than a M-Tech clone I compared it with but really the M-Tech was nearly as smooth and did the same job for me. The finish was much better on the Sebenza but really I don't like the style of either the M-Tech copy or the Sebenza and would be just as happy with the $5 M-Tech as the $400 Sebenza. I carry a small canoe (brand doesn't matter)
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I just have to ask, does your father know you have made this post in this forum? You say the name of the business is not important. Are you sure your father didn't find out about this and told you NOT to give the business name, due to the embarrassement it would cause him if folks knew you were his child? Hey, I'm not pointing any fingers here. Just asking a reasonable question so that, you know, I'll have "the inside information."
 
It also seems kind of strange that a knife dealer would only carry around a 20$ folder. I'm not knocking the knife, but you'd think that someone who loves knives enough to become a dealer would spend a little bit more on their EDC.
 
Very true. When your a dealer, you get really good prices and good oppurtunities to purchase them for yourself ;)
 
Oh My What a stir over "my opinion" that the Sebenza is not worth $400 "to me"

My dad always tells me "if you argue with a fool, you'll have two fools arguing"

Let it go its just my right of opinion of a knife!
 
syltetoy said:
Oh My What a stir over "my opinion" that the Sebenza is not worth $400 "to me"

My dad always tells me "if you argue with a fool, you'll have two fools arguing"

Let it go its just my right of opinion of a knife!
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that's why we stopped arguing and decided you were a troll!
 
syltetoy..... You don't have an opinion, you have extreme jealousy in not owning a Sebenza. You know NOTHING about Sebenzas. The reason there are so many Sebenzas out there.....? You don't know and will never figure it out.
 
CQC15 said:
Im looking to get a new knife and want to splurge a little. I have been looking at the sabenza. Although the $400 or so price of it is a little high, I wouldnt mind spending it if its worth it.
So basically its the high price worth it or is it all hype?
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Found it! I knew there was an OP in here somewhere!

CQC15, I had similar curiousity about the Sebenza. I bought a used small LH 21 and EDC'd it for about 3 weeks. It is indeed a beautiful knife, but did not live up to the huge expectations I had built up based on the popularity. The 21 is off at CRK getting refurbed right now. When it comes back I will probably be moving it along to free up funds. Even if I take a small loss, it was worth it to examine it.

I might feel differently about an inlaid or embellished Seb, a Large, a Mnandi, an Umnumzaan, or at a different point in the future. Heck, I might feel differently about it when this one comes back from CRK. If it actually cut better by the same substantial margin that it is constructed better than many other knives, then I would have at least 3 by now.

You can find used smalls for as low as $275ish. Pick one up, carry it for a while, and if you don't like it, you can recover most or all of your money on resale. Then you'll know.

Really, it's the only way to know if the Sebenza (or any knife) is right for you. Well, there is another way to know, but I'm assuming that your dad is not an M-tech dealer. :D



On the other hand, the Millie, FINALLY released in LH, is everything it's supposed to be. :D ;)
 
Alright Ive decided to get one for myself. Where can I get it at a slightly lower price? Any online vendors out there?
 
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