Safe queen logic?

mtngunr said:
Knives are quite consumable, if used as intended.

So are 1959 Ferarri's....but if everyone drove them, they still would be in production and parts being made for them, too.

And anyone buying quantities of stuff, otherwise unused and useless to them, IS a hoarder.

Paint it any way you choose, justify any way you care to, whether very questionable investments strategy, or art collection, it is still hoarding to accrue quantities of otherwise useless items, and most times, very expensive items.

And those items bought, simply to PREVENT someone else from getting it, gotta hurry up and buy that thing, before somebody ELSE gets it.
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I agree very little with your post. Knives are consumable over a period of years just like your Ferarri example. But that is not what people hoard. You hoard items you use all the time (examples toilet paper, food, paper towels, ammunition) because that is way you're built. But I call that accumulating as you will use it eventually. Buying something before someone else happens all the time with knives and that is not hoarding. You can paint your own picture anyway you like. I don't buy to prevent anyone from anything; you buy it because you want it.

There is this hurricane happening along the NC/SC coast right now. I heard on TV that all the generators have been bought up. If you already own a generator and you buy another just before this potential emergency, that's not hoarding. That is playing it safe.
 
22-rimfire said:
I agree very little with your post. Knives are consumable over a period of years just like your Ferarri example. But that is not what people hoard. You hoard items you use all the time (examples toilet paper, food, paper towels, ammunition) because that is way you're built.
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You don't understand hoarding, it seems.
I have personally seen it; it ain't pretty (and the house was structurally damaged).

Watch a few episodes of Hoarders...and when you think "No one would be that messed up/disgusting in real life!", just remember that you are wrong. ;)
 
tony281sc2 said:
I get the point I guess some people just have different opinions. Drive a car like that everyday and it’ll get dinged-up scratched, etc...and the value will go down to about half....same with knives
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Cars like knives are a terrible investment
 
I don’t believe owning safe queen knives is a form of hoarding but call it what you may. You have every right to your own opinion just like everyone else. Just like people have every right to buy what they want and do what they want with it. I will continue to buy safe queens, not to prevent anyone else from having them but because they’re something I want and they make me happy. That’s all that matters to me:cool:
 
stabman said:
You don't understand hoarding, it seems.
I have personally seen it; it ain't pretty (and the house was structurally damaged).

Watch a few episodes of Hoarders...and when you think "No one would be that messed up/disgusting in real life!", just remember that you are wrong. ;)
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You view hoarding as a psychological compulsion (as in never throw anything away), I understand that. But I don't think it has much to do with knife collecting or knives in general. I think most of us have a bit of a compulsion (hobby) to buy knives and obviously use them as we want to.

If I'm wrong, explain it to me relative to knives.
 
Schwifty said:
Well at this point going on about how one ‘can’t understand’ it, just seems like crowing about how hard they use their knives (hint: so hard).
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Sorry man, you couldn’t be more wrong. My philosophical question is rooted in purpose. There is zero silver-back chest beating going on.
 
PocketKnifeJimmy said:
Many have already said it... But, just one more time... Basically, what another person chooses to do with his/her own purchases/belongings, is their choice to make... no justification is required :)

Enjoy! :)
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I am all about freedom, do what you want - Doesn’t mean I can’t ask for another viewpoint. If you don’t feel the need share your view or to justify it, then don’t. Cheers.
 
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Knives and cars are not close to the same thing. If you put a Ferrari in your garage, even sealed in shrink wrap, it will be junk in 15 years. If a knife is oiled up and put away without a gazillion flips or whatever, it is a time capsule. I have old brass Gerbers I've rarely ever touched, and even the spring works just like it did 45 years ago. They haven't been babied either, just in my drawer. Factory edges still sharp.
That being said, I do have a knife I keep safe. It's because it's the only one in the world and I think I just can't cut anything with it. It really belongs forever pristine. I still flip the action and will for as long as I'm around, but it won't wear like a sports car...put on the road or garaged. Cars don't last period. Knives do.
That's one of the many things I love about them. A well cared for knife of premium materials could last for....a very very long time. At these levels of materials, eons. A car? 75 years after several re-dos.
 
22-rimfire said:
Can you understand collecting Colt firearms? How about art? How about coins?
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Colt firearms - sure, if you shoot or display them, yes!

Art - sure! As long as it is displayed - packed away, no. Art’s purpose is be be displayed and appreciated - can a knife be art? Sure! But that is categorically different than a safe queen in my mind

Coins - nope, doesn’t make sense to me, but to each his own.
 
Om28v said:
Knives and cars are not close to the same thing. If you put a Ferrari in your garage, even sealed in shrink wrap, it will be junk in 15 years. If a knife is oiled up and put away without a gazillion flips or whatever, it is a time capsule. I have old brass Gerbers I've rarely ever touched, and even the spring works just like it did 45 years ago. They haven't been babied either, just in my drawer. Factory edges still sharp.
That being said, I do have a knife I keep safe. It's because it's the only one in the world and I think I just can't cut anything with it. It really belongs forever pristine. I still flip the action and will for as long as I'm around, but it won't wear like a sports car...put on the road or garaged. Cars don't last period. Knives do.
That's one of the many things I love about them. A well cared for knife of premium materials could last for....a very very long time. At these levels of materials, eons. A car? 75 years after several re-dos.
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I think the jist of the analogy between knives and cars, at least from my perspective, was deriving enjoyment from an object’s intended purpose.
 
Just a few final thoughts and then I’m done with this thread because it has become a little ridiculous. My beliefs are that I knife doesn’t have to be used to be enjoyed, a safe queen doesn’t have to be kept in a safe, art doesn’t have to be displayed to be art and some people just can’t or never will understand why others do what they do. Mic drop. I’m out:cool:
 
cnote306 said:
Colt firearms - sure, if you shoot or display them, yes!

Art - sure! As long as it is displayed - packed away, no. Art’s purpose is be be displayed and appreciated - can a knife be art? Sure! But that is categorically different than a safe queen in my mind

Coins - nope, doesn’t make sense to me, but to each his own.
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Coins make a lot of sense to many people. If the answer to the gist of each of these is No. What do we have?
 
I am currently 2500 miles away from my house on vacation. I brought one POS knife to carry with me. If it gets lost, stolen, dropped, confiscated, etc.., what the hell do I care?
Back at home, I have several over $200 knives locked up in my safe. Would you bring those on vacation with you?
..or, some crap $15 Kershaw like I have? (That sort of does the job).
Just trying to understand the whole scope here.
I travel a lot.
 
GermanyChris said:
Cars like knives are a terrible investment
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99% of the time I would agree. But there are a few originals out there ( think hemi cudas, ls6 chevelles, boss 429 mustangs) that were rarely driven and in good condition still today. Now I understand it’s extremely rare, but an unrestored car like that in good condition would go for around a quarter million dollars. Same goes for some baseball cards. A mickey mantle rookie card in good condition will bring almost $50,000. But nobody knew it at the time, so who knows what collectible knives will be worth In the future? Maybe nothing, maybe a lot......
 
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SoCalEDC said:
I am currently 2500 miles away from my house on vacation. I brought one POS knife to carry with me. If it gets lost, stolen, dropped, confiscated, etc.., what the hell do I care?
Back at home, I have several over $200 knives locked up in my safe. Would you bring those on vacation with you?
..or, some crap $15 Kershaw like I have? (That sort of does the job).
Just trying to understand the whole scope here.
I travel a lot.
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The Sebenza goes in my suitcase when I travel it just flew back and forth to Germany with me last month.

tony281sc2 said:
99% of the time I would agree. But there are a few originals out there ( think hemi cudas, ls6 chevelles, boss 429 mustangs) that we’re rarely driven and in good condition still today. Now I understand it’s extremely rare, but an unrestored car like that in good condition would go for around a quarter million dollars
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An unrestored, low mileage, all original car would probably not be driven much other than to the local show and shines.
 
An unrestored, low mileage, all original car would probably not be driven much other than to the local show and shines.[/QUOTE]
Not driving a car is one of the very worst things you can do to one. Regular fluid changes and regularly driven ones are always much better.
 
GermanyChris said:
An unrestored, low mileage, all original car would probably not be driven much other than to the local show and shines.
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Exactly, those cars were meant to be beat and raced and used up. I think that’s why the few that weren’t are worth a ton of money today. Who knows about knives, but I have no problem with people doing what they want with their own stuff.
 
SoCalEDC said:
I am currently 2500 miles away from my house on vacation. I brought one POS knife to carry with me. If it gets lost, stolen, dropped, confiscated, etc.., what the hell do I care?
Back at home, I have several over $200 knives locked up in my safe. Would you bring those on vacation with you?
..or, some crap $15 Kershaw like I have? (That sort of does the job).
Just trying to understand the whole scope here.
I travel a lot.
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I would take my normal carry knife. But it just depends on what or where I am spending my time "out of town". Honestly, I would probably just carry a SAK which is one of the knives I usually carry. I do consider $200 knives fairly expensive and not something to be careless with. But I would still probably carry the $200 knife depending on where I am and mode of travel. I'd probably leave the $400-$500 knife at home however. Don't see much point in locking knives up in a safe unless you already have stored valuables (guns, jewelry, valuable coins, etc.) and that is the norm for you. It is too easy to hide knives.
 
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