Safe queen logic?

[tony281sc2]

An unrestored, low mileage, all original car would probably not be driven much other than to the local show and shines.

Not driving a car is one of the very worst things you can do to one. Regular fluid changes and regularly driven ones are always much better.[/QUOTE]
Also true, especially with older cars with carberators...to keep a car in good shape it should be driven at least once every week or 2

 

[GermanyChris]

Exactly, those cars were meant to be beat and raced and used up. I think that’s why the few that weren’t are worth a ton of money today. Who knows about knives, but I have no problem with people doing what they want with their own stuff.

Nor do I, but it doeant mean I understand either which was the premise of this whole thread.

 

[Om28v]

Nor do I, but it doeant mean I understand either which was the premise of this whole thread.

Seems to me safe queens are for a 2nd or a backup to a blade that may become lost or discontinued...or to preserve a piece for the future. Knives in use are going to pick up scars.
The ridiculous stuff these things are made of (think titanium and super steels) are so far out there the stuff is going to last for crazy amounts of time. These materials are insane, and I'm as guilty as anyone here in obtaining them.
Hoarding is a different ballgame. I've seen the results of hoarders and that's on a whole different level. The ones I've seen do not hoard only nice things either, in fact I've noticed that hoarders just hoard, they don't seem to care about preservation too much. Seems to be a mental disorder...like being a knife knut, but different.

 

[not2sharp]

Seems to me safe queens are for a 2nd or a backup to a blade that may become lost or discontinued...or to preserve a piece for the future. Knives in use are going to pick up scars.
The ridiculous stuff these things are made of (think titanium and super steels) are so far out there the stuff is going to last for crazy amounts of time. These materials are insane, and I'm as guilty as anyone here in obtaining them.
Hoarding is a different ballgame. I've seen the results of hoarders and that's on a whole different level. The ones I've seen do not hoard only nice things either, in fact I've noticed that hoarders just hoard, they don't seem to care about preservation too much. Seems to be a mental disorder...like being a knife knut, but different.

Let's not over analyze this. Many people have a drive to collect and that urge to collect is what eventually leads to and creates institutions like libraries, museums and even modern science. It is an important driver of civilization, learning and progress. These people are driven to build and surround themselves with their own unique environment; that is not a knock on them or anyone else. Don't try to understand it, just accept it and move on.

At the turn of the last century, The American museum of Natural History acquired a collection of mounted birds from an English nobleman. He had accumulated 3 million bird mounts, including mounts of rare and extinct birds, like the Dodo, which he had crammed into every square inch of his family's castle. It gave the museum one of the best bird collections in the world. Don't ask what to do with so many stuffed birds, just understand and be thankful that some people have an urge to collect.

n2s

 

[Tommy-Chi]

What is the difference between collecting and hoarding?

Collectors often catalogue and/or display their collections. The collection has a unifying theme.

Hoarders just have piles of useless junk. They don’t feel pride, they feel shame.

I just don’t want folks to confuse collectors with hoarders, they are two very different things.

When I think of someone asking why I would involve myself in a hobby such as collecting... I only have to take a look at any one of my many displays throughout my domain, (a smile then develops), and I then think to myself... "Why not!"

I have entered some of my friend's homes, and I think they feel uninspired when they are there. Their decors are usually very bland, and although clean, but they simply don't do anything for me either, except that the overall boring look can feel kind'a depressing sometimes.
On the other hand, when I come home, I instantly feel the coolness factor surrounding me. Much of that feeling are the cool items themselves, and then there is that feeling of pride that I incorporate so many ideas into my interior decor's look.
When folks "don't get it", that is okay, because I myself TOTALLY "get it". And again, that's all that really matters

Those yours? They look great!

I need to do something like that.

 

[22-rimfire]

If you purchased an entire Sprint run of knives, that might be considered hoarding by some. To others, it is an investment albeit risky one. But if you love knives and have the funds, I could understand this. Some of those might well be safe queens per the theme of this thread.

The whole hoarding concept just doesn't seem to fit hobbyist knife users and collectors. Just my opinion.

 

[PocketKnifeJimmy]

Those yours? They look great!

I need to do something like that.

Yes Sir, thank you!
They are just a few of the many displays that house and protect my collection.
I'm currently in the process of working on a pretty cool display for a new addition to my collection. I always try my very best to keep them interesting, like these two...

Thanks again!

 

[Kels73]

Some people like collecting...plain and simple. I don't think there's much more to it than that.

 

[mt666tm]

I hate safe-queening... and yet I am guilty of it on multiple counts. There are some knives I just cant get myself to use. I carry them and play with them, but when a legitimate task comes up I just cant get myself to use the factory edge.

With me this is typically early production knives that are mint. They're not particularly valuable, and probably not even that rare, but to replace would be difficult if not impossible considering nobody that has them ever sells them, and if they do I always miss the sale.

I've got plenty of users, so I've come to the realization that some are going be safe-queens and there is nothing I can do about it, so just enjoy them while I can.

 

[stabman]

You view hoarding as a psychological compulsion (as in never throw anything away), I understand that. But I don't think it has much to do with knife collecting or knives in general. I think most of us have a bit of a compulsion (hobby) to buy knives and obviously use them as we want to.

If I'm wrong, explain it to me relative to knives.

When you have huge piles of knives on every surface (which may be teetering on the point of collapse), and have a hard time finding a spot to sleep, you are hoarding knives.

Most people don't have a hoard of knives.
Quite a few have an out of control spending habit though.

 

[22-rimfire]

I think you just have a pile of knives and probably an out of control urge to buy them. The word hoarding just doesn't sit well with me as it has many negative connotations. One person's hoard is another person's collection.

 

[stabman]

I think you just have a pile of knives and probably an out of control urge to buy them. The word hoarding just doesn't sit well with me as it has many negative connotations. One person's hoard is another person's collection.

There should be negative connotations to having so many knives (or anything) that you can barely find a place to sleep.

 

[22-rimfire]

At least they are being displayed? Wasn't that one of the conditions mentioned above?

I did some work (actually a lot of work) on a house that had about 6 inches of dog and cat poo on every surface, beds included. That would be a poo hoard.

 

[cnote306]

I like the displays, very cool. This, I can understand.

Backup for a favourite, I can get behind that too.

Irreplaceable/discontinued models, yup, ok. I like to think knives are like golf balls, they make new ones everyday, so tee it up.

Family heirloom or sentimental vale, cool.

I also understand the feeling behind not trying to destroy a new pristine piece you can’t bring yourself to use, but I always push myself past that - but I get that.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I hope you all enjoy your knives however you see fit. Just take them out of the safe and test drive them once in a while

 

[Megalobyte]

Hoarding is typically characterized by a compulsion to acquire and keep objects that usually have little to no value. And, the hoarding interferes significantly with the person’s ability to function. That could mean either they can’t afford it, and/or, the presence of the accumulated objects physically interferes with living a healthy lifestyle.

If your house is literally bursting with knives to the point you have nowhere to sleep, eat, relieve yourself etc. that’s probably hoarding. The knives are preventing you from living in a reasonably healthy way.

If you just keep them in a safe so they’re not really taking up space, but can’t afford them, well, not reallly hoarding so much as an addiction.

If you have lots of knives, and your life isn’t being negatively affected by them, I really don’t see how that fits any definition of hoarding

I think a lot of collectors are somewhat addicted to the high of acquiring a new object. But that’s not hoarding.

 

[gdpolk]

I understand the mentality of collecting. However, I don't personally get any enjoyment from collecting.

I use my nicest and most expensive knives daily. I enjoy having nice things but to me the joy of a custom knife is that it not only looks better but they actually PERFORM better than anything that I can buy off a shelf. When each and every detail is meticulously chosen and engineered from design AND materials to perform perfectly and look amazing, you have an experience during the use of the tool that cannot be bought off the shelf typically (unless you just get lucky to find the perfect knife in the perfect materials that also happens by luck to have perfect ergonomics).

Your welcome to read about my favorite and most expensive knife here:
https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/made-myself-a-dream-knife-finally.226983/