san mai copyright ????????????

If you can use BF or other sites to gather up a list, there's no reason a bunch of you couldn't hire one lawyer for a harassment suit for little expense per person. You could probably even get a few donations for the cause.
 
I just saw NJSB now has double clad steel available, thats right, 410ss clad 52100...hmmmm
 
Or you could just send my standard response to such a demand letter "*@^# You! Strong letter to follow." :D
 
Someone could or should look into Lynn claim of being the "fastest gun alive" . Silly but since he's lawsuit happy it'd be nice if someone documented to be faster with a gun stepped up.
 
Thread got too big too fast for me to keep up.

But, here's the deal: they have to go after everyone, or no one at all. Disney does the same thing. If you choose to ignore some infringement, then when you DO go after someone, the lawyers use a previous failure as proof that you don't consider the trademark/copyright/etc. all that important.
It becomes even more relevant when you go after someone for large sums of money, because then, you're only doing it for the payday and not for the true protection of what is yours.

It's called "CYA".
 
I've met my fair share of tradeMark lawyers. Seems like they are trying for intimidation.

It would seem Cold Steel is hoping people will just see a big scary letter with threats of lawsuit and stop. In truth, they don't have much of a case, and unlike other people, no one respects Cold Steel enough to stop.

I remember Chuck from Alpha knife asked me to stop using the term "Bowie Block" as they have a trademark on it. Could I have tried to fight it? Maybe. But I like Chuck, and I respect him and his buisness so I stopped. C
Now I call them something else.

Cold Steel has done nothing to earn any level of respect, and so I very much plan on making lots of San mai blades.
 
Greenberg Woods said:
I've met my fair share of tradeMark lawyers. Seems like they are trying for intimidation.

It would seem Cold Steel is hoping people will just see a big scary letter with threats of lawsuit and stop. In truth, they don't have much of a case, and unlike other people, no one respects Cold Steel enough to stop.

I remember Chuck from Alpha knife asked me to stop using the term "Bowie Block" as they have a trademark on it. Could I have tried to fight it? Maybe. But I like Chuck, and I respect him and his buisness so I stopped. C
Now I call them something else.

Cold Steel has done nothing to earn any level of respect, and so I very much plan on making lots of San mai blades.
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^^^^ this sums it up
 
Sounds like Lynn Thompson douchebaggery, all right. What a turdburglar.

I vote this thread gets moved to W&C so we can abuse him appropriately.
 
Sosa said:
They are probably targeting SOG for using it. He's gotta defend it all or nothing.
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That's most likely it. You have to actively defend your trademark to have any type of case in court. You can't leave it undefended for decades and pick a battle when you have something to gain. Looks like SOG was counter-suing for damages from the infringement letter from CS. They say it negatively affected their marketing. Don't know the details but it looks as if it was dismissed over a jurisdiction issue or something.

I think they are attempting to pepper the community with letters to look as if they have been diligent in their defense of the trademark.
 
Seems a bit like the ripple of a very small pebble n a very big pond IMO.

Just exchange the problematic term for the word 'laminated' instead and -presto- problem solved.

Personally I prefer 'laminated' for the process anyhow, but thats just me.



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That being said, nobody likes getting these letters from lawyers let alone threats of legal action.

A self styled mercenary very much suffering from delusions of grandeur and having some of his idiotic 'tacticlol' knives made in Managio PM'ed me once and made a very thinly veiled threat of legal action and told me to delete my post where I had quoted someone else badmouthing said knives.

I just laughed and shrugged it off.
 
I'm puzzled how vigorously defending your TM would involve violating the language you put in it. You would think that would make you weaker in court if it can be demonstrated that you are using your registration as a guise for disrupting legal trade.
 
If it is an attempt at fortifying some current court case, this after-the-fact scrambling won't work. If it is for use with future action... it still might not be enough to just "threaten".

Has anyone considered that this may be a hoax? Is Cold Steel really behind it? Just a thought.


ETA...

There was a thread posted in the CS forum that got closed down pretty quickly.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Agreed.

Do note that "bushcraft" was trademarked only in connection with naming an online forum. I think that stinks too, but there it is. Go along or challenge the legality.
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I'm honored to be one of those banned from the Bushcraft website. The guy that runs that show sent me an e-mail calling me everything under the sun. Their rules are so strict you can't post much of anything without walking on the sites feet.

Fred
 
My biggest rebuttal would be that they have had the trademark for 30 years. During that time, the name has been used thousands of times, maybe tens of thousands. It has become a commercial name and both steel and knives are sold under it. As far as I know, Cold Steel has not pursued the users until recently. I am not sure any pursuit has come to court. This amounts of an abandonment of claim in court. It would be pretty hard to defend their ownership now, since they have not done it in the past.
 
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