SanRenMu goes Sandvik

I think the heat treat qualities are realized after the knife has been used for some time. Because these knives are well made and classy looking, and VERY inexpensive, people are buying them up left and right and are NOT afraid to use them hard.

There is probably no reason to think the heat treat on these blades will be any less than that found on the Chinese-made Spyderco/Byrds. Pretty much the same steel, too.


SIDE-NOTE: I love cabbage and it is probably my all-around favorite vegetable. It's the most underrated food on the planet. Please don't equate cabbage to garbage.

Now, turnips to garbage and I would agree with you. :)
 
bigtoof said:
Some new models T08, and upgrades like GB-910 plus are now from 12C27 steel, no more 8CRMOV

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They steal designs from honorable companies. Do you honestly think they would put in a better steel:rolleyes:

They will probably call it 12C27 but it will be the exact same steel they have been using.

They have no honor:thumbdn:
 
On the SanRemNu web ssite, MSRP for the 910 is listed at $69.00. Just by way of comparison, the comparable figure for the 710 is $20.00. Figure selling price is half or less.
 
komondor said:
SIDE-NOTE: I love cabbage and it is probably my all-around favorite vegetable. It's the most underrated food on the planet. Please don't equate cabbage to garbage.

Now, turnips to garbage and I would agree with you. :)
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I will say Cabbage isnt so bad when put into a proper broth or stew.

as to SRM and the other chinese companies . . . the subject has been done to death. vote with your money
 
Those are counterfeit SanRenMu knives made by a company called MingRen. They were put on the market after the Chinese government forced SRM to stop making the 9XX series due to legal troubles. SanRenMu does *not* make knives in Sandvik steels. So yes, the Chinese counterfeit each other just as much as anyone else.

Secondly, sanrenmu.com is an advertising site run by a wholesaler. That's why there are (or were) Enlan and Ganzo products on that site as well even though they are three distinct companies.

If you want secondary verification of any of this, shoot me an e-mail on the address attached to my profile and I'll send you the info of a wholesaler or two you can ask.
 
brets-ftw said:
I will say Cabbage isnt so bad when put into a proper broth or stew.

as to SRM and the other chinese companies . . . the subject has been done to death. vote with your money
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I always thought it was a reference to a South Park episode that was making fun of another television show called "The Jersey Shore" or something. As far as I can tell the joke is that with the accent, it sounds so much like "cabbage" that they just say that on South Park, when in reality the women are actually calling each other "garbage". To me it sounds more "gabbage".

Anyway, I might have bought if it was $7. I'm not really sure I care so much about the ripping off of knife designs, but still, as someone else said the whole appeal was that they're supposed to be cheap.
 
Sanremu.com is not actually SRM's webpage, and the 910 has been discontinued but if I remember correctly they sold for around $15.

SRM no longer makes knives that big since the chinese government forbade them from doing so. It was a result of several murder's committed with SRM knives. As far as I know SRM is the only company that this applies to.
 
Perhaps the title of this thread should read "Sanremu goes Bullsh!t"
I, for one, don't trust for a half-second that their blades are actually made of whatever steel they claim. And I doubt I'm alone in that... :rolleyes:
 
I wouldn't spend $8 on a knife of this sorts let alone this much. The steel is whatever comes of all the scrap metal China has been buying for the last 6 years. Bumpers, toasters, swing sets, ect.. Why does this thread even exist?
 
bigmo66 said:
I wouldn't spend $8 on a knife of this sorts let alone this much. The steel is whatever comes of all the scrap metal China has been buying for the last 6 years. Bumpers, toasters, swing sets, ect.. Why does this thread even exist?
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Well I guess the chinese Spyderco line and all the other American companies that contract with SRM are also made of scrap. I'm not defending any past look alike knives but only the SRM knives I have tested and they have held up really well and the steel used has performed on par to other 8cr/9cr offerings from other companies.

I don't think SRM has ever made an outright fake or counterfeit , since I have never seen one of heard of one plus they wouldn't like to loose their contracts with American companies.

Taking politics out of the equation, they truly produce good cheap knives which are on par with most $30 or $40 imports offered in the US. The Chinese like them so much that there are even fake SRM knives being made.lol
 
espnazi said:
Well I guess the chinese Spyderco line and all the other American companies that contract with SRM are also made of scrap.
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Well you guessed wrong as we are not discussing an American owned, time & performance proven company. We don't have to "guess" or "hope" all is right with a brand such as Spyderco. Huge difference in my book.
 
Wow, 12C27 isn't that special, that price is ridiculous considering the knife.
 
bigmo66 said:
Well you guessed wrong as we are not discussing an American owned, time & performance proven company. We don't have to "guess" or "hope" all is right with a brand such as Spyderco. Huge difference in my book.
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If I'm not mistaken Sanrenmu has been contracted by Spyderco in the past to manufacture some of their cheaper knives.
 
BlueEyedTraveler said:
If I'm not mistaken Sanrenmu has been contracted by Spyderco in the past to manufacture some of their cheaper knives.
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That may well be true but it doesn't mean they hold every product line to the same strict guidelines that a company like Spyderco would demand. We've heard and seen products that didn't "cut the mustard" and were scrapped or pulled. The mighty dollar is powerful and many are willing to give an unknown a try at $8-$10 but the same type product at 10x that price is evidently not well received.
 
bigmo66 said:
Well you guessed wrong as we are not discussing an American owned, time & performance proven company. We don't have to "guess" or "hope" all is right with a brand such as Spyderco. Huge difference in my book.
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SanRenMu has been given nearly universally good reviews regarding quality and fit/finish over the last 3-4 years. That includes this site, other knife and tool forums and on Youtube. There's no "guessing" or "hoping" any more. I mean, feel free to have your opinions and all but they aren't based in any reality beyond your personal biases.

But hey - if you choose to believe the Chinese can't manufacture quality products it'll make it that much easier for them to take jobs overseas. Vote with your dollar, but ignorance is a very dangerous stance to take.
 
bigmo66 said:
That may well be true but it doesn't mean they hold every product line to the same strict guidelines that a company like Spyderco would demand.
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this is true. many of these factories have the ability to make a good product, it all the depends on what the purchasing company pays/asks for. also, good companies like spyderco will keep close tabs on the quality of the produces leaving the factory. then if by chance an inferior product does get shipped, a good warranty will take care of that.
 
like em sharp said:
SanRenMu has been given nearly universally good reviews regarding quality and fit/finish over the last 3-4 years. That includes this site, other knife and tool forums and on Youtube. There's no "guessing" or "hoping" any more. I mean, feel free to have your opinions and all but they aren't based in any reality beyond your personal biases.

But hey - if you choose to believe the Chinese can't manufacture quality products it'll make it that much easier for them to take jobs overseas. Vote with your dollar, but ignorance is a very dangerous stance to take.
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Yup. And I don't want to drag this thread into the macroeconomic/quasi-political territory that will get it closed down, so I'll just point out that if you want some objective opinions about Chinese brands, check some threads in the BritishBlades forums.

I own a number of the Chinese brands, and Sanrenmu is pretty consistent in its quality. Bee/Enlan the same. Ganzo is hit-or-miss but mostly hit, and Navy is very good with its lockbacks and compression locks, but I don't trust their linerlocks. But if you buy from a dependable source, you don't look for counterfeits and you keep your expectations reasonable, there are lots of $10-15 Chinese branded knives that feel and perform like $30-50 knives.

That's just the state of manufacturing today and the reason why US-based knifemakers are willing to shift some manufacturing processes to China, Taiwan and elsewhere.
 
like em sharp said:
But hey - if you choose to believe the Chinese can't manufacture quality products it'll make it that much easier for them to take jobs overseas. Vote with your dollar, but ignorance is a very dangerous stance to take.
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That first sentence is completely contradictory. As far as the Chinese making quality products, you would be ignorant in suggesting folks don't realize that they can and do in fact make some very high quality goods. I've seen decent knives, exceptional flashlights, ect..

This thread is about a knife that many have come to except as a decent value but at 10X that price maybe not to much. Is there a reply that said all Chinese stuff is crap?
 
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