Scammed out of a Grail

Contact a Postal Inspector \ File a claim or whatever they do- Someone signed for it so there's an address and confirmed delivery.

Really sorry to hear about this. I spend more time in The GBU trying to stay abreast of the possible problems one might encounter.
 
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David Shore's record is peppered with such illustrious incidents as grand theft and unlawful detainer proceedings. A big guy, too (6' 3", 230 lbs). Seems like he'll do just fine when he eventually lands in prison for good.
 
Wow.

I would be upset burning in anger.

Not for the knife but for his low life lack of honesty snd valuea and because he cheated.

We do not need people like him here.
 
what's the address, wondering what part of longwood this fellow lives. pm me if you aren't comfortable psoting it on the board. i also know a couple deputies in seminole county, but this would fall under postal fraud and should go that direction.
 
Thanks brancron and gioni. I'm including screen shots of all this to the postal inspector and both his local PD and mine.
 
I say we start sending folders in pieces. You get the blade first, then the rest after the other party sends me something (kidding of course). I hate that this occasionally happens to people on here.
 
Maybe someone (should absolutely be well established and reliable) can begin a "relay" business, i.e., both trading parties send their items to this middle man, who upon recipient of both can then forward to the destinations respectively? This will involve a service fee plus shipping. In the cases of one party go MIA, at least the other does not lose everything (the service fee and shipping fee will still need to be paid unfortunately).
 
sharp_edge said:
Maybe someone (should absolutely be well established and reliable) can begin a "relay" business, i.e., both trading parties send their items to this middle man, who upon recipient of both can then forward to the destinations respectively? This will involve a service fee plus shipping. In the cases of one party go MIA, at least the other does not lose everything (the service fee and shipping fee will still need to be paid unfortunately).
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This idea sounds straight out of a T.V. show. I love it.
 
An escrow type business increases transaction costs but may be a sine-qua-non when dealing with high-end, one-off custom trades/swaps
 
sharp_edge said:
Maybe someone (should absolutely be well established and reliable) can begin a "relay" business, i.e., both trading parties send their items to this middle man, who upon recipient of both can then forward to the destinations respectively? This will involve a service fee plus shipping. In the cases of one party go MIA, at least the other does not lose everything (the service fee and shipping fee will still need to be paid unfortunately).
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The hang up with that is it would double the shipping fees for each party. They would each need to pay for shipping their individual knives to the third party and then they would also have to pay for the third party to ship the knives to their respective final destinations. Now add on top of that the "service fee" to compensate the third party for his/her time both in shipping and record keeping, and gas money for driving to the PO for both items' pick up and shipping.

It could be done, but if both knives were able to be shipped in the smallest "if it fits, it ships priority mail boxes", that would be a minimum of $13.60 ($6.80@). If a minimum service fee of $10@ was implemented, that would leave $6.40 TOTAL for driving to the PO to pick up the incoming packages (delivery to a home mailing address would be risky), deliver the outgoing packages and track all 4 shipments. And even if there were multiple transactions passing in and out daily, it would still work out to way below minimum wage.

A good concept but unworkable when faced with the reality of trying to pry enough funds out of all parties to make it viable.
 
sharp_edge said:
Maybe someone (should absolutely be well established and reliable) can begin a "relay" business, i.e., both trading parties send their items to this middle man, who upon recipient of both can then forward to the destinations respectively? This will involve a service fee plus shipping. In the cases of one party go MIA, at least the other does not lose everything (the service fee and shipping fee will still need to be paid unfortunately).
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9Nine said:
This idea sounds straight out of a T.V. show. I love it.
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I would love to be a volunteer middleman, just for the chance to handle some really awesome knives (and to promptly send them on their way, of course!).
 
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The hang up with that is it would double the shipping fees for each party. They would each need to pay for shipping their individual knives to the third party and then they would also have to pay for the third party to ship the knives to their respective final destinations. Now add on top of that the "service fee" to compensate the third party for his/her time both in shipping and record keeping, and gas money for driving to the PO for both items' pick up and shipping.

It could be done, but if both knives were able to be shipped in the smallest "if it fits, it ships priority mail boxes", that would be a minimum of $13.60 ($6.80@). If a minimum service fee of $10@ was implemented, that would leave $6.40 TOTAL for driving to the PO to pick up the incoming packages (delivery to a home mailing address would be risky), deliver the outgoing packages and track all 4 shipments. And even if there were multiple transactions passing in and out daily, it would still work out to way below minimum wage.

A good concept but unworkable when faced with the reality of trying to pry enough funds out of all parties to make it viable.
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If it's high-end customs we're talking about, I would do something like this completely free of charge just for the fun of it. I get free shipping supplies and ship through PayPal/blue bin so no standing at line in the post office for me.
 
right this idea might be viable only for high value items e.g. $300 or above (for me, could be $500 for another person, it is subjective). Indeed I will trusr Bran as the middle guy:)
 
another solution is for both parties to paypal f&f the amount of money (the value of the item being traded that both side agree) plus a service fee (say $10 from each side) to the middle man, and the money is returned to both parties only when the items are received. This will eliminate the extra step of shipping and the gas+time to usps. The down side is both party must have the money available. Again, I trust bran as the relay guy.

Now if oneday bran decides to become a bad guy that would be a disaster:eek:

Edit: on a second thought this wont work because one party can claim item is not received even if it is received.
 
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These addresses are areas where usps, ups, or fedex will leave boxes without signature on doorsteps. now if one sent the packages with signature required......fedex will sometimes leave the package and sign for it themselves with a scribble name. Seen it first hand quite often. Ups not always but some drivers will. Usps, rare chance. Seems like more than one scammer with these mutiple addresses in the same areas but not exactly right next to each other, but who knows.
 
Hey, I live in Longwood. Mind sending me the address? I have no intention of going by but i can at least tell you what part of town he is and what the neighborhood is like. One of the addresses above is like 2 miles down the road in a pretty nice apartment complex.
 
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sharp_edge said:
Maybe someone (should absolutely be well established and reliable) can begin a "relay" business, i.e., both trading parties send their items to this middle man, who upon recipient of both can then forward to the destinations respectively? This will involve a service fee plus shipping. In the cases of one party go MIA, at least the other does not lose everything (the service fee and shipping fee will still need to be paid unfortunately).
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FWIW, this is commonly done on a jewelry buying and selling group I belong to if a member without any feedback as a seller wishes to trade with another member of the group. One of the group admins acts as the middleman, receives both packages, checks to make sure all is in order and then forwards each item to the proper person. It means paying double for shipping, extra work for the admins and a longer wait time for items to be delivered, but it seems to work well in a buying/selling/trading community that's reputation and feedback based. I'll add that it also seems a small price to pay for peace of mind, especially when the items in question are valuable, rare and/or expensive.

Edited to add: Best wishes for a positive resolution, JBama.
 
The middle man idea opens up another venue of liability. Who is responsible if a knife gets lost, damaged for stolen after leaving the middle man? Big headache for him if so. Also what if one of the knives is a fake or not 100% as advertised, seller/trader could now say the middle man made the switch and shift the blame to him. Lots of responsibility just to be helpful

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