Scrapyard skeleton knife

An Izula with the edge taken all the way back and a little pry-bar at the end instead of a circle.

What is the world coming to....

Who else here was in love with knives and drawing out designs at 8, 10, 12 years old?

How hard is it?

I wouldn't pick one up for $5
 
Bruce is hardly the only guy who's ever been personally requested by the Busse clan to stop discussing their products ;)

I was just informed that Dumpster Dan personally called me out on the scrapyard forums, in his post announcing the banning of Bruce, many months after I was banned from those forums. This is a pretty pathetic action from the owner of a supremely successful company that sells a boatload of knives and has a rabid fanbase. Holding a grudge against someone who pointed out a gross design flaw in your blades, and got many of your customers riled up when they realized that it was indeed a flaw (despite all your protests to the contrary), is not only poor business, it's reflective of poor character.

My negativity was always much less about the regulator itself, and much more about the fact that the ONLY WAY I was able to get Dan to address any of my concerns about the design was to harp on them until he finally spoke up.... by trashing me publicly, and then having his brother call me at home (with a number the company only had from having DONE BUSINESS with me in the past) to lecture me that I was trolling on bladeforums.


I've done my best to put the ridiculous pettiness of those two brothers out of my mind, and think of these knife companies as just companies, ignoring the distaste I have for the occasional internet actions of their owners, even going so far as to occasionally drop in and praise a cool design when I happened to hear about it. I'm disappointed that Dan hasn't done the same.



And I retract my earlier statement at the beginning of this thread. I will definitely NOT be picking one up.
 
Thats too bad. Something similar happened to me with the Bark River owner. He was quite condescending in his comments and illustrates to me what i may encounter if i ever needed Customer Service. I'll never buy one of his (or his sheath-making collegue's) products. There are too many really decent Folks needing sales to accept this kind of adolescent behavior.

I used to own a restaurant and learning how to communicate with people was essential -idiots usually have to hire good "Public Relations" workers to overcome their "people skills" shortfalls.

This definitely puts the "advantage" to our various Custom knifemakers whom i'm confident have at least a modicum of civility.
 
An Izula with the edge taken all the way back and a little pry-bar at the end instead of a circle.

What is the world coming to....

Who else here was in love with knives and drawing out designs at 8, 10, 12 years old?

How hard is it?

I wouldn't pick one up for $5

Dude, what are you even talking about? :confused:
 
Just to be clear, I'm not angry with Dan. And I'm not upset with having been banned from the Scrap Yard Forum. Life's too short to get worked up over something that trivial. I said what I said about the Scrapivore because I felt it needed to be said. My unwillingness to say anything further should not be interpreted as a desire on my part to recant my previous statements. It's not. And I won't.

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They are taking orders for the LE version for folks that are interested. Looks nice and slicey!
 
Bruce is hardly the only guy who's ever been personally requested by the Busse clan to stop discussing their products ;)


And honestly, they have a point - with the rabid following the Busse group has, you start to feel like, if you have a valid criticism, you get drowned out by all the blind praise and adoration. It's very tempting to start beating a dead horse and wasting huge amounts of time "fighting the good fight" to convince people that what you have to say has some merit.

It's not worth it.

The simple fact is, to the True Believers, everything out of Ohio will be gold, and to the rest of us, they are just another family of companies that makes a high quality product and has generally amazing customer service, but makes the occasional dud, just like any other company. It's only when things get too wrapped up in the hero worship that it ever gets uncomfortable.


Basically, I still buy an occasional Busse family blade, and wander into the forums once in a while to comment when I like something. I don't fixate on the negative, and certainly don't bother wasting my time trying to convince anyone of any shortcomings I believe a product might have. I might make the occasional comment, on the rare occasions I check the forums, when I see something I'm not totally in love with. The trick, however, is to let it rest at one or two comments, and move on. This is very difficult to do, because you will often get blindly attacked whenever you say anything disparaging what some consider the only quality knives on the planet, and the temptation is to defend yourself, but it's just an internet forum, and it's best to find something more useful to do with your time....






Like sharpening up those Busse's, since they were so dull from the shop..... :D (sorry, I couldn't resist, I know it was childish, but it cracked me up. I'll stop, I promise :foot:)

uh... i'm having difficulty understanding this statement, along with the one from BLD522 that says Dan asked him not to post about it. are you guys saying that the Mfg., themself, asked people not to voice an opinion about a product because that opinion was negative? surely, i'm not getting it. that goes beyond absurd and i hope i misunderstanding what y'all have said :( i'll voice an opinion about whatever i want, i consider the 1A as important as the 2A and would never do business with ANYONE attempting to silence someonelse in an effort to improve their rep.

as for the knife, SR101 is FREAKIN AWESOME and that satin finish is gorgeous. i'm not a little knife kinda guy, but if i was, i could see owning this. i'll stick with Izula's, for the ladies in my family, but only because they prefer the colors they come in and i like the idea of us all using ESEE. however, if i needed a necker, this one would be in the running.
 
Having read this whole thread and not knowing, or particularly caring, about the back history concerning a few individuals I would say this is a good example of inverse "fanboyism". I get your point that you don't want a sharp edge on the pommel, i.e. a pry bar. You have beat it to death though and not everyone will agree with you. The prybar doesn't look (have never held one obviously) particularly sharp and I for one like makers to leave good 90 degree flats for firesteel striking. Some guys would consider that a "sharp" edge also. You have made your opinion known and now seem to be trying to bury anyone who wants to try this necker out with, once again, your opinion. Let it go, your opinion on the design is repeated on EVERY page of this thread. That is when it gets old. Of course, that is just my opinion. But I won't keep repeating it over and over again.

Pete
 
Clearly you have no idea how I feel about Busse family knives in general and Scrap Yard knives in particular. But you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

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No, actually after reading these four pages I think I got a handle on what your "feelings" about these knives are. Just an observation that opinions can morph into ranting which is only a small step from a vendetta, but by that time nobody is listening to you anyway.

To get back on topic, I think I will wait for the coated version and I too wish it would come with kydex.
 
uh... i'm having difficulty understanding this statement, along with the one from BLD522 that says Dan asked him not to post about it. are you guys saying that the Mfg., themself, asked people not to voice an opinion about a product because that opinion was negative? surely, i'm not getting it. that goes beyond absurd and i hope i misunderstanding what y'all have said :( i'll voice an opinion about whatever i want, i consider the 1A as important as the 2A and would never do business with ANYONE attempting to silence someonelse in an effort to improve their rep.

as for the knife, SR101 is FREAKIN AWESOME and that satin finish is gorgeous. i'm not a little knife kinda guy, but if i was, i could see owning this. i'll stick with Izula's, for the ladies in my family, but only because they prefer the colors they come in and i like the idea of us all using ESEE. however, if i needed a necker, this one would be in the running.
There is a single post thread by the owner of SYK saying in the title that overly negative statements are not tolerated, and it mentions that bld522 was banned from that forum for posts here, and also mentions MM. I will not link it, this should not be a cross-forum thing, even though it already was one.
 
Thank you, hardheart. If I may, I'd request that we ALL put this behind us and stay on topic.

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I think that is BS Bruce...after hearing about this I wont be picking up a Scrapivore. If a company cant take criticism they shouldn't be making knives. Instead of taking it as constructive criticism they turn it into something that will in turn affect sales negatively.
 
I'll take this offline with you, Nate. I really don't want to discuss it further here. But I'd encourage you and everyone else who reads this thread not to base a buying decision on what happened to me. If the Scrapivore makes sense to you and you like it, buy it. If not, don't buy it. Let's just leave it at that.

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soon enough...

good lord, I was a freakin idiot for bumping this thread instead of starting a new one...this thing should go to whine and cheese or get locked down...off topic enough...

regarding the knife, cool looking grind and profile to me...
 
I just ordered one, I like that they're pushing the RC to 62-64 with the zero grind, I probably won't get the CG version unless I absolutely love this one as the izula already fills that niche.
 
wow, just checked this thread for the first time in a bit. sorry, bruce, but dan busse pulled a boner and has to deal with the fallout. you can request that we move past this, but his actions display a hugely flawed character and that's always been something that gets endless discussion here. having a tantrum when someone criticizes your product is no way to run a business, and apparently it's cost him a few customers.
 
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