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The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is $300 $250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
Gorgeous! Just Great aren't they!Picked up this little Ulster the other day
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Etch is very faint
Craftsman 9528
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This Stockman has the HIGH Carbon STEEL U.S.A. tang stamp. Can't see any etch on the master blade.
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Gorgeous Stockman'sechoscout & A Adam5 aren't they beautifully built!
Here is a awesome Knife for Sears, although I do admit I had to look into this as I was unsure of something on the knife.
What I was concerned about was the Punch on this Knife, the Punch is a Utica Lightening strike Punch, Utica make a couple of different Punches have not to date seen a Utica Lightening Strike Punch used on a Camillus Knife! This alarmed me, also, the Knife is a 4 bladed Cattle Knife- yet is called a WHITTLER by the Etch on the Main Blade.
The Knife has etched on the Main STA-SHARP ( OVER ) WHITTLER.
The name does not concern me, Sears had a habit of calling their Knife Handle material all sorts, and also called their other patterned Knives patterns they were not - for example I will be soon posting a "Soft Grip" Stockman Knife that Sears etched as a "GUNSTOCK".
This Knife has the Coping blade added into the package of Blades opposite the Main Clip- so I can see why they called it a Whittler?
So back to the question that was nagging at me - the Punch!
Being an extremely tidy example the Knife was something I wanted for my Sears lot, but I didn't want a Frankenstein, so I went into searching.....
After some time I found a VERY interesting Sears Catalog Page - in my own mix, something I didn't quite fully take notice of previously. There are two very interesting factors on this one Sears Catalog page.
Sears, 1937 - 1938, this page shows us at the very top, a illustration introducing the NEW SPIRAL PUNCH, if you look at your Sta-Sharp Knives that have a Punch they will have the Spiral Punch- if not? it will be Camillus's non-Spiral Punch (which is exactly the same as the Spiral Punch without the Spiral network on the Pile side- otherwise same Mark Side -same construction).
Camillus used the Mayer Punch in earlier days, but I haven't seen this used on any Camillus Sears Knives (yet).
What confirmed to me that this Knife was in fact original and untouched was, on that page shown a 4 bladed Knife clearly showing the Utica Lightening Strike Punch on a Stay Sharp Knife!
This may sound not much to you but this was a big find for me, not only confirming the Knife but learning of a new punch that was on the scene all the time- hidden away in lower numbers.
Remembering Sta-Sharp was uniquely and solely Camillus.
Since then I have found a couple more Sta-Sharp Knives provided by Camillus to Sears that have this Utica Punch. It made sense, these Punches were being used in the time frame before Camillus's introduction of their new "Spiral Punch" and the knives I was finding certainly fit into the pre1937 -1938 time frame.
Not long after I purchased this Knife, I was able to purchase another Sta Sharp Stockman that has the Sta-Sharp Script Font on the Tang - that also has - yes you guessed it, a Utica Lightening strike Punch - which validates this knife even more so ( I haven't possession of the latest knife yet).
Pretty sad when you look at my life that I get that thrilled to find these small things out in the Sears World that continues to throw nothing but questions at me.
When talking to a very educated good Knife friend - he said to me " Well, does this make you think that perhaps Utica Contract made the Knives for Camillus"? either that or did Camillus buy punches from Utica ? More Questions, we find one thing and are left with more questions
One of the frustrating things is, that if there is not a Number etched on the Blade or stamped into the Tang- the chances of finding that particular knife in a Catalog become very slim.
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The Punch and the Coping Blade:
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Gorgeous Stockman'sechoscout & A Adam5 aren't they beautifully built!
Here is a awesome Knife for Sears, although I do admit I had to look into this as I was unsure of something on the knife.
What I was concerned about was the Punch on this Knife, the Punch is a Utica Lightening strike Punch, Utica make a couple of different Punches have not to date seen a Utica Lightening Strike Punch used on a Camillus Knife! This alarmed me, also, the Knife is a 4 bladed Cattle Knife- yet is called a WHITTLER by the Etch on the Main Blade.
The Knife has etched on the Main STA-SHARP ( OVER ) WHITTLER.
The name does not concern me, Sears had a habit of calling their Knife Handle material all sorts, and also called their other patterned Knives patterns they were not - for example I will be soon posting a "Soft Grip" Stockman Knife that Sears etched as a "GUNSTOCK".
This Knife has the Coping blade added into the package of Blades opposite the Main Clip- so I can see why they called it a Whittler?
So back to the question that was nagging at me - the Punch!
Being an extremely tidy example the Knife was something I wanted for my Sears lot, but I didn't want a Frankenstein, so I went into searching.....
After some time I found a VERY interesting Sears Catalog Page - in my own mix, something I didn't quite fully take notice of previously. There are two very interesting factors on this one Sears Catalog page.
Sears, 1937 - 1938, this page shows us at the very top, a illustration introducing the NEW SPIRAL PUNCH, if you look at your Sta-Sharp Knives that have a Punch they will have the Spiral Punch- if not? it will be Camillus's non-Spiral Punch (which is exactly the same as the Spiral Punch without the Spiral network on the Pile side- otherwise same Mark Side -same construction).
Camillus used the Mayer Punch in earlier days, but I haven't seen this used on any Camillus Sears Knives (yet).
What confirmed to me that this Knife was in fact original and untouched was, on that page shown a 4 bladed Knife clearly showing the Utica Lightening Strike Punch on a Stay Sharp Knife!
This may sound not much to you but this was a big find for me, not only confirming the Knife but learning of a new punch that was on the scene all the time- hidden away in lower numbers.
Remembering Sta-Sharp was uniquely and solely Camillus.
Since then I have found a couple more Sta-Sharp Knives provided by Camillus to Sears that have this Utica Punch. It made sense, these Punches were being used in the time frame before Camillus's introduction of their new "Spiral Punch" and the knives I was finding certainly fit into the pre1937 -1938 time frame.
Not long after I purchased this Knife, I was able to purchase another Sta Sharp Stockman that has the Sta-Sharp Script Font on the Tang - that also has - yes you guessed it, a Utica Lightening strike Punch - which validates this knife even more so ( I haven't possession of the latest knife yet).
Pretty sad when you look at my life that I get that thrilled to find these small things out in the Sears World that continues to throw nothing but questions at me.
When talking to a very educated good Knife friend - he said to me " Well, does this make you think that perhaps Utica Contract made the Knives for Camillus"? either that or did Camillus buy punches from Utica ? More Questions, we find one thing and are left with more questions
One of the frustrating things is, that if there is not a Number etched on the Blade or stamped into the Tang- the chances of finding that particular knife in a Catalog become very slim.
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The Punch and the Coping Blade:
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Hi everyone!
Oh Boy! Sears never stopped did they, to have one of each of their amazing knives they offered since day 1 to lets say the mid 80's when the Well dried up I am sure would demand a small Warehouse to display those Knives! Oh to have examples of the very very early days!
Wilbert came in a little later, but still the earlier brand for Sears between the years of 1908 to 1925.
Here is a Gunstock Knife - Camillus too made this pattern both for Sears and in the Sword Branded range, I wonder if the Camillus pattern was the copy of this guy here.........
Beautiful Bone, Lovely Swage work- Rats Tailed Bolsters - just a gem - this guy has been used and the main slightly shortened, but still ( IMO ) a Grand looking Knife.
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The Camillus, This guy here has the Craftsman as the main Etch, and the Sub Etch of Sta-Sharp making this a possible late 1941 or more likely a 1942 model, note the exact same pattern of the Gunstock shape.
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Do those spiral punches have a sharp side.Thank you kind Sir!![]()
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