Sebenza or Griptilian thread I read????

Steven Andrews said:
You may not be able to, but I can - and do.

Peoples' opinions differ.

Most of the time Sebby stays at home and I'll carry a Cabela's or Ritter Griptilian - or even a Victorinox. Because I prefer them.

The Sebenza is a fantastic knife and Chris Reeve is a fantastic manufacturer - I have no problem with the knife or the maker.
However I have noticed snobbery from Sebenzas owners. It seems to me that Sebenzas attract "knife snobs" like Rolexs attract "watch snobs".

(I have donned my Nomex underwear in anticipation of your replies ;) )
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I prefer man with refined taste to snobber;) . I like and still buy all kiinds of knives but the sebbie(to me like others) holds that place near and dear to the heart. I guess its the whole idea that your comparing something with plastic handlles, a diff lock and a completley diff price range to the Sebenza. That doesnt make the grippy a bad knife. The grippy is a great knife and at a great price, to me I just think they are on diff levels. To disagree is fine, this is a knife forum and we do discuss such things:D :thumbup:
 
How about this... Since it is the Christmas season let's all give thanks to the fact that we can afford an item such as the Sebenza. We are lucky to eat 3x a day, have a place to live, clean drinking water, etc. We are lucky to have the time to come to these forums and talk about our toys. Thank God and our troops!
 
Eric J said:
How about this... Since it is the Christmas season let's all give thanks to the fact that we can afford an item such as the Sebenza. We are lucky to eat 3x a day, have a place to live, clean drinking water, etc. We are lucky to have the time to come to these forums and talk about our toys. Thank God and our troops!
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Nicely said.
 
MPE said:
Thanks for the backup guys. Some people here understand the laws of physics and economics.

MPE
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You sure this shouldn't have been posted in politics? All you seem to be arguing is that because it's more expensive, it's better. Your making yourself sound like some insecure rich asshole, trying to validate capitilsim. Who cares about that aspect, and who cares if you have a rolex? The point is or should be, the Sebenza is a good knife, and I and others that have owned one,prefer it to the griptillian as well. But, for me, the only thing in my pocket is a Strider. So YMMV. P.S>I like the regular more than the classis, so to some people thats odd as well. Different strokes for different folks.......
 
Xterior said:
I don't think anology is correct. The porsche might outperform the honda, but the quality of the honda is definatly better then the porsche.

And I don't think you can claim that the quality of a grip is better then a sebenza.
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How do you figure that the quality of a Honda is better than a Porsche?
 
Django606 said:
How do you figure that the quality of a Honda is better than a Porsche?
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I believe Xterior is referring to quality in the industrial sense -- "quality" is the ability of a product to meet its stated specifications at a point in time, usually evaluated when it is new. (The ability of a product to meet its specifications over use and time is "reliability".) That being said, the Honda meets it's product specifications VERY consistently, and thus is very high quality -- the Porsche may, however, have tighter and/or more demanding specifications.

Another illustration -- the population of McDonalds hamburgers is one of the highest quality examples of food out there -- each burger meets the specifications that McDonalds has set for it very consistently, time after time, no matter what McDonalds one visits. You may or may not, however, favor the McDonalds hamburger, because of its particular specifications.
 
I don't see how you can compare the two anyway.They are so differant.
Ti framelock vs FRN-Axis lock
 
hmmm. thread made me curious to scrounge around in my safe to see if I had a griptillian handled, axis lock - and sure do! Played with it for a moment and remembered how smooth the axis lock is. Then memory recalled how much I don't trust the lock...I put it back in the safe and patted my Sebbie (like the old trustworthy friend it is).
 
Django606 said:
How do you figure that the quality of a Honda is better than a Porsche?
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I don't. There has been research (in Europe) that shows how reliable a brand and model of car is. And.... porsche is not verry good at it. Honda always ends in the higher regions of the list. Imho quality and reliability goes hand in hand.
 
Ok to me you are compareing the wrong cars.
I think of a Sebenza like a old tracker,very tough,very well made,easy to work on,made with very high quailty parts that are not complicated and will work hard every day for years before needing mantaince.
If you notice,many other knives are very complicated with many parts that are very hard to put together so they work in the correct way,kind of like a porche.
Am I makeing any sence?
 
How about we end it? We just agree to disagree, and leave it at that. There is no need to keep the arguing. Peace to all of us!!
 
samhain73,

Someone asked,I just happened to reply, Wasn't bragging or anything. I'm not hear give a list of my accomplishments and such. But when asked,I don't beat around the bush and blow smoke!

MPE
 
Fooj said:
I believe Xterior is referring to quality in the industrial sense -- "quality" is the ability of a product to meet its stated specifications at a point in time, usually evaluated when it is new. (The ability of a product to meet its specifications over use and time is "reliability".) That being said, the Honda meets it's product specifications VERY consistently, and thus is very high quality -- the Porsche may, however, have tighter and/or more demanding specifications.

Another illustration -- the population of McDonalds hamburgers is one of the highest quality examples of food out there -- each burger meets the specifications that McDonalds has set for it very consistently, time after time, no matter what McDonalds one visits. You may or may not, however, favor the McDonalds hamburger, because of its particular specifications.
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So by that logic, is he saying that Griptillians are more consistent in quality than Sebenzas? You are horribly mistaken, my Belgian friend. Also, Porsche recently beat Lexus for the number one spot of highest quality award from J.D. Power and Associates.
 
u812 said:
Think about this.
One thing that seems to get forgot is that the demand for Sebenzas keeps them selling for full MSRP.If most other high end production knives had the demand to sell at thier full MSRP the Sebenza is not that much higher.
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It is not all about "demand", it has a great deal to do with the fact that CR does not allow his Sebenzas to be greatly discounted.
If dealers offer the Sebenza for less than CR wants them to, then they will no longer be CR dealers.
It's basically a legal form of price fixing, much like Apple computers.
 
Nukemkb said:
hmmm. thread made me curious to scrounge around in my safe to see if I had a griptillian handled, axis lock - and sure do! Played with it for a moment and remembered how smooth the axis lock is. Then memory recalled how much I don't trust the lock...I put it back in the safe and patted my Sebbie (like the old trustworthy friend it is).
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You don't trust an Axis-lock?:confused:

Please explain.
 
Benchmade,Spyderco and many others also try to do that but it does not allways work.I do notice that even at the full price there is a little out of stock sign on most of the Sebenzas at most dealers.
 
pbubsy said:
I second the known fact that the Griptillian is a quality knife with an excellent locking system.......but it doesn't compare to the Sebenza. One thing about the Griptillian is that it shouts "Abuse me!" and takes whatever you throw at it, and for the price I don't have a problem using it for things I might not want to use my Sebenza's for. I keep a Griptillian in my glove box and one in my tool box, but for the most part I keep my large and small sebenza's in my pocket.
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I'm not made of money so I would only keep a cheap knife in the glovebox like one of the Spyderco Byrd line. To me a Grip is fairly expensive and considering my mini-grip turned out to be quite a quality little knife, I wouldn't even think of just tossing it in a glovebox but might consider keeping it in my pocket. You guys scare me if this new interest for me turns into a hobby and I start considering $65 knives to be cheap. :o
fwiw, there will always be something more expensive with no real functional or design improvement, simply there for folks with too much money. i'm not saying that's the case with a sebenza, since i've never researched their knives (saw this thread on the forum homepage). it's just a fact of life though, that somewhere as prices go up, return on investment drops significantly.
 
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