Sebenza or Spyderco??

I love my seb and I also use spydercos. I think overall I like my seb more but I enjoy using spydercos as well. Im lucky enough that I am able to use many knives and can switch em up for a change:)
 
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if you can only afford to have one or the other, then Sebenza.

but if you can afford a Sebenza, then you can probably afford to have both! :D

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65535 said:
But if you're like me you won't buy a knife that comes from overseas unless it's German.
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JNewell said:
So...we're dying to know what you drive??? Where your TV and camera and watch were made?
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[Spyderco Fanboy Shield] Dude he said he doesn't buy knives from overseas, he didn't say anything about cars, tv's or watches. You are in the wrong thread. [/Spyderco Fanboy Shield]

Spyderco makes great knives, but they can't touch the fit and finish of a Seb. I too have a adopted a USA only knife standard and subsequently sold off all Spyderco's save for the Military and P-Mil models. The fact that the last 4 out 5 Spyderco models released were made in Taiwan means I probably won't be buying very many more.

Go for the Sebbie. :thumbup:
 
5.56 said:
[Spyderco Fanboy Shield] Dude he said he doesn't buy knives from overseas, he didn't say anything about cars, tv's or watches. You are in the wrong thread. [/Spyderco Fanboy Shield]

Spyderco makes great knives, but they can't touch the fit and finish of a Seb. I too have a adopted a USA only knife standard and subsequently sold off all Spyderco's save for the Military and P-Mil models. The fact that the last 4 out 5 Spyderco models released were made in Taiwan means I probably won't be buying very many more.

Go for the Sebbie. :thumbup:
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I love Spydercos but all the new China and Taiwan models are a little worrisome.
 
RIL Sage is as close as it gets but I will not buy Japan, Chinese or Taiwan made knives PERIOD. If the Reeve Integral Lock Sage was made in the USA, I would have one. Get the CRK small sebbie. I am gonna get the Ti Military even though I have sold every Military I have owned. I like the Stretch too but want USA unless I am buying from Custom Makers. I like Spyderco but only will buy the USA ones. Get the Sebenza 21 & then buy some others. I often buy 3 or 4 knives just to find out I am gonna go back the a CRK Umnumzaan or 21. BTW I am carrying a Strider SNG & abuse the heck out of it without worry.
 
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So some of you guys wouldn't buy a Khukuri because it's made in Nepal ?
 
I have never had a Khukuri and it is not quite the same.
 
I've been considering the Umnumzaan for a while now, but in the end I'd rather have a TiMil RIL.
The upside of a CRK is the insane level of fit and finish, however, I know that the Military has my favorite handle and blade profile. Not even the Umnumzaan can match it.
As soon as CRK switches to a better steel I'll get an Umnum, just to see one up close, but for the time being the TiMil RIL will be one of the best bang-for-your-buck knives out there.
 
I personally don't see the value in a Sebbie. I've looked hard at one, but something prevents me from dropping that kind of cash on a knife when I have plenty that will cut just as well and cost a third of that.

But it is difficult making a direct comparison because the Sebbie is an all-ti framelock.

The obvious choice is the new ti framelock Millie, which is not yet available, but is half the price of the Sebbie.

Personally, I think you should hunt up any old used Millie and carry it for a while. If it doesn't 'do it' for you, then consider a Sebenza.

I would also look at a carbon fiber Stretch. Unlike the Manix 2 S90V they are fairly easy to get.

There you get carbon fiber scales, ZDP-189 steel and a very usable blade, all for under $200 (if you look around, considerably under that).

That's a great value IMO.
 
No argument that Chris Reeve makes fine knives. If, in my lifetime, he decides to build a midlock with a full flat ground blade, usable 50/50 choil, Spyderhole (or non-round hole) opener, and great ergonmics, then I would almost certainly purchase one, and there's a good chance it would find its way into my pocket. Till then, I'll carry a Spyderco which has those features since they are more important to me that the features which earn CRK knives their deservedly high praise.

As for the other arugment which has, sadly, once again been injected into a discussion here.

I have no problem with an American wanting to "buy American" to the extent possible. But it should be noted the OP is not an American, so that point is moot.

I have no problem with someone refusing to buy anything made in Germany because they lost relatives in the camps or anything Japanese because they lost a relative to Japanese atrocities during WW II.

I have no problem with someone refusing to buy anything from a country who's politics they dislike. I'm sure there are those in other countries who will refuse to buy anything made in the USA for similar reasons.

On the other hand, I think folks who imply that knives made in "country A" are automatically of inferior quality and those made in "country B" (or their own country), are automatically of superior quality are only displaying their ignorance. Those Americans who attempt to mask that ignorance with a veneer of patriotism so they can label anyone who disagrees with them as unpatriotic, then say "but I'll buy Japanese" (or German, or Swiss, or Swedish, or something else) are hypocrites, plain and simple.

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There is nothing like a Sebenza. They are expensive, yet worth every penny. I have owned 5 or more and not seen a flaw on one. If I had to sell all of my knives but one I would keep a Sebenza. Spyderco's are great and my favorite knife company.

But if you are really a value minded individual, a utility knife with disposable blades goes through most things easier than the knives we all love. Plus you never need to sharpen! Try whisking through a box with your favorite one handed opener, and then a 5 dollar utility knife. You'll see what I mean.
So we don't carry knives just for their cutting performance per dollar ratio do we?

So I say get the Sebenza!



OFF TOPIC PART INCOMING....

There is nothing wrong with wanting to support your fellow countryman.

I live in Michigan. I love buying beer made in Michigan. I am allowing someone near me a better chance to live the American dream. I might drive by them on a road somewhere and never know it. Heck! Maybe buying their beer will allow them to afford hiring me to do some of their electrical work.

Michigan apples are at the fruit market in full force now. I am buying the heck out of them and dehydrating them for eating all year.
 
It's true, there's nothing quite like a Sebenza. But Spyderco makes a number of fantastic knives, and I am always buying new Spydercos...

Right now I am carrying a Caly CF/ZDP, Stretch FRN and my Small Sebenza. I see room for both in my life, and you should too.

As I see it, my perfect knife would combine features from the Sebenza that I love (pivot bushing, stunning looks, bead blasted Ti handles, easy disassembly, stonewashed blade, precision machining) and features from Spyderco (compression lock, Spyderhole, wire clip, great blade geometry). So until Spyderco and CRK team up I'll be satisfied to live with both in my pockets.
 
After collecting & EDC'ing about a dozen Spydercos, I discovered my favorites were the RIL Leafstorm and Sage, so I pretty much had to try a Sebenza. I found a used small regular for less than some of the new Spydies, which lets me feel good about using it, taking it apart, practicing on the Sharpmaker, etc.

Keeping in mind I'm talking about an older, used example -- my Sage seems better than my Seb in every measurable way. More ergonomic, smoother, sharper, easier to open.

But I find myself carrying the Seb a little more often then the Sage (and both of these more than any other knife). After a couple days with one I find myself craving the other. Variety, spice, etc.

It's true that for the cost of a Sebenza you could get 2-3 Spydercos... but if you already have several Spydercos, do you need several more? Would your EDC rotation benefit more from a little variety? (Collecting is another matter.)

I'll keep accruing Spydies no doubt, but I don't think this will be my last CRK. And I'll probably end up trying some other well-regarded RIL designs, like the Buck Mayo TNT, since this is obviously a formula that works for me.

I'm new to this hobby, but having a ton of fun learning and trying new things. It's possible I'll end up picking a favorite (maker/model) some day and sticking with it, or that my needs will change, but for anyone in my current situation I'd say: both!

PS: I wonder if South Africans quit buying Sebenzas when Chris moved to Idaho? ;-)
 
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