Sebenza - What am I missing?

Cliff Stamp said:
You could argue, as he has noted in the past, if the knfie has to be taken apart and cleaned this is a weak point, not a strength.

-Cliff
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Or you could argue that if a knife has to be taken apart and cleaned it would be advantageous if it were easy to do so. Disassembling a Sebenza to clean it is an option, not a requirement every time you need it cleaned. Having this choice is optimal compared to not having it, wouldn’t you agree?
 
The Sebenza is a very well made knife, but the company lacks innovation and variety. It would be nice to have a selection of blade styles and grinds. Time has overtaken CRK and its quality, durability and workmanship is duplicated by other makers with better variety of blades, sizes, locks and materials. Its time to move on,my Sebenza is for sale
 
How do you get blood out of a axis? To each his own. I find the ability to break down is a plus. I don't think that I really appreciated the precision of a Sebbie until I really got into taking them apart. They're kinda like my Honda motorcycle in the sense that the tolerances are so close that when you replace a part, it needs to be in exactly the right postion to fit or it just won't fit right. It can be frustrating (to say the least) but when you get that part in just right and it works, it really gives me a sense of how well it's made and how much work it takes to get such consistant quality.
Does anyone here know of a folder (except the Scott Cook Lochsa) besides CRK folders where the pivot screw can be tightened all the way and still have smooth openning and closing? I don't think that CRK pivots are adjustable, you just tighten them down.
So what are you missing? Buy one, use it, and see if it's for you. If you don't like it, sell it. They tend to retain a decent resale value. Heck get a good deal on a used one and you may even come out ahead. :eek:
 
My first post may have been a trifle abstruse for some. To clarify. Sebenzas rock!
I have two and they are great for all the technical, and aesthetic reasons mentioned by others. But I still think it is undeniable that a large part of the Sebenza's charm is the mystique that has grown around them.
It's like the way a serious watch collector simply has to have a Rolex at some stage.
There are many compelling reasons to like Sebenzas but no single reason for having to like them.
 
jujawa said:
Exactly, and that being said, most knife nuts buy a sebenza at some point or another. Some fall in love with it and can have nothing else, others might just play with it for a bit and then trade it off for their next indulgence like i did.

And to clarify that a bit, your income definately plays a part. If i had a considerably higher income there is no way i would have traded the seb. I'd have kept it and bought several more because they are a great knife and i would definately take pride in owning them, as DaveH stated.

But if its pushing your budget to buy one, then there is something inside that always just irks you that you paid 115 for your Manix and 400 for your large seb.
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Could NOT have said it better for myself (-manix +bm732)
 
walkingman:

I don't look for wow factors in knives...because then it becomes a toy. Knives aren't toys for me. I go "wow" when I see the new toy lightsabers. Wish I had those when I was a kid. :(

But back to what I was saying: knives are simply supposed to function. If they cut and are low maintenance and I don't have to worry about them, that's what's cool for me. I get my wows from other places.

That said, my sebenza is the only worry free knife I own. Everything else, you always worry about rust, or gunk, or the ever so slight chance that the lock will fail. I get lots of comfort with my sebenza, even though my favorite knive is still my chinook II.
 
Why can't people use the search function on topics that have been discussed in literally thousands of posts in the past?
 
Murky Depth said:
I'm not 100% convinced that this post is sincere. Just seems fishy. Why would you not be explicitly aware of how much you paid for your seb if it was such a huge leap forward ("300 & whatever dollars later")? I can understand not quite remembering how much a particular spydie/BM cost, but not the seb. And comparing it to a $20 knife & not seeing what the price difference is all about? Hmmm... Maybe I'm being a little cynical here, but this sounds like BS. Sorry.
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I paid $333.90 with shipping, OK? For the life of me I can't figure out what the exact price paid has to do with this thread.
 
juremablanco said:
Hey Anotheruser,

Sounds like its not for you and it also sounds like you're quite a bit more liquid than I am sooooooo, Send the Sebenza to me!!! I'll appreciate the dickens out of it. I'll love it and lube it and hug it and name it George.
:D
Plus,

You'll get a nice warm fuzzy feeling having made someones day AND you'll be able to blasely say "I bought a Sebenza but gave it away, I just don't see what all the hubub's about!"

Plus , you won't have to go through the trouble of selling it. :)

just say the word and I'll get ya my addy :cool:
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I appreciate your kind offer to take it off my hands. It really isn't a burden having it around, and, after reading all the posts in this thread, I have come to appreciate a few of the finer points of the knife.
 
For what it's worth, the search function on this forum works for sh!t. Easily 9 out of 10 searches I perform (either the quick search or the advanced search) fails with an error:

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

It's phuckin' annoying to a newbie like me who has tried to do a hundred searches in the last month to try and learn a thing or two. Instead, I get error after error.

So for those who like to harp on the "Do a search" rant, try to take it easy on those of us who really try, but get no results.
 
Scott Dog said:
Does anyone here know of a folder (except the Scott Cook Lochsa) besides CRK folders where the pivot screw can be tightened all the way and still have smooth openning and closing? I don't think that CRK pivots are adjustable, you just tighten them down.
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You are dead on. The machining and quality of the pivot area, including a bronze bushing put the Sebbie in just about a class of it's own. Many may have issues with ergos, etc., but to challenge the structural integrity of the Sebbie makes me wonder about the motivations of some of the comments above.
 
JoHnYKwSt said:
anotheruser,


The finish on the blade of a sebenza is a stonewash finish. This is done on purpose and to those unfamiliar with the finish it may look unfinished, when in fact it is done at the last stage of manufacture. The finish is very good at hiding scratches.
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Thank you for the correct term for that finish. I've never seen a stonewashed knife before.
 
Quiet Storm said:
Why can't people use the search function on topics that have been discussed in literally thousands of posts in the past?
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Has it? My apologies then to the more senior forum members.

I read all the Sebenza posts, which are what convinced me to get the knife in the first place. But I'm not specifically interested in the Sebenza, per se. I can't search on is what differentiates a high-end knife from a low-end one, which is why I asked.
 
stjames said:
Or you could argue that if a knife has to be taken apart and cleaned it would be advantageous if it were easy to do so.
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Yes however consider lots of slipjionts have been used until the blades wore out and were never taken apart so it is kind of hard to argue that it is functional advantage to be able to do so, and if it has to be taken apart to be cleaned it is obviously a weakness in the design.

In terms of the pivot pin, so can't tighten it fully and it has no effect on the opening, the one I have doesn't behave like that.

-Cliff
 
I like my Spydies, BMs and fixed blades, but have no interest in Sebenzas because of the cost. On the other hand, I've paid $220+ for a flashlight more than once (and a few thousand on them altogether), so I get it when someone goes a little nutty about something. Nutty folks are much more interesting than the average fat guy whose only interest is eating Doritos in front of the tv.

best regards
 
Cliff Stamp said:
Yes however consider lots of slipjionts have been used until the blades wore out and were never taken apart so it is kind of hard to argue that it is functional advantage to be able to do so, and if it has to be taken apart to be cleaned it is obviously a weakness in the design.

-Cliff
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Since this whole discussion is simply an exercise in repeating oneself, I'll again point out that you don't have to take it apart to clean it, but the design allows you to if you so choose. This is optimal when compared with a knife that does not feature this option.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
...lots of slipjionts have been used until the blades wore out ...

-Cliff
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By this argument there is no "functional advantage" to a lock on a folder, correct?
 
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