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You can support Law Enforcement without the very bad look you allowed to happen ... I support Law Enforcement ... but I won't assiting them in destroying firearms ... I won't be supporting the Sherrifs and DAs etc... that are anti 2A either ....

nor will I support BM and have not in some years.

You can always make a reason for an action ... but that doesn't make it reasonable or legitimate.
 
kickert said:
A lot is being made of the fact that Benchmade has donated to people with "D" next to their name. But, let us not forget that they are operating in the greater Portland area -- a part of the country not known for being a GOP stronghold. If a person living in that area wanted to advance pro-2A legislation, trying to get a Republican elected could be throwing your money away. However, supporting the Dem who best matches your views may actually move the scales a bit.

Supporting a moderate Democrat in Oregon is much more conservative than supporting a moderate Republican in Wyoming. It is all about understanding the environment you are operating in.

I am guessing that those who are most outraged that BMK would ever support a Dem are all coming from places where Dems already have no chance winning an election. I could be wrong, but we forget the country isn't homogeneous.
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I think you are absolutely right. The republican have no chance of winning there so they support the Dems who’s views they agree with.

The problem with that is that several of the Dems they supported have been heavily anti-2a and supported every gun control legislation proposed.
 
But I'm actually glad that you allowed the images to be posted ... maybe that will light a fire under those who maybe haven't supported the NRA or Knife Right among many other organization that are working so hard for to keep our rights in our free nation ...
 
madcap_magician said:
If Benchmade is donating exclusively to Democrats, the only justifiable reason for that would be if all of their representative politicians are Democrats (... which in Portland is actually pretty likely). Businesses make donations all the time on the basis of their local politicians.

But what, exactly, did Benchmade get for this? Are Oregon Democrats supporting Knife Rights bills? Are they supporting pro-2A bills? Are they supporting law enforcement, the hunting and outdoor sports communities?

Second, is Benchmade making these donations, or is Les De Asis making these donations? Those are not the same thing. If Les is a Democrat and wants to fund Democrats, fine, whatever. If Benchmade is funding anti-gun, anti-knife politicians, Lucy's got some 'splaining to do.
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It's both.

Les De Asis personally contributing multiple times to Darlene Hooley.
Benchmade Knife Co. multiple times over the years to various candidates

Oh and by the way, if it's just greasing local palms you know to get along in the terrible political environment they operate in, why are they sending money to Dem candidates in Colorado and New Mexico(2018)?

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JJ_Colt45 said:
But I'm actually glad that you allowed the images to be posted ... maybe that will light a fire under those who maybe haven't supported the NRA or Knife Right among many other organization that are working so hard for to keep our rights in our free nation ...
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The NRA folds every single time, a d supports red flag laws, bump stock bans and "sensible gun control" .
They won't get another cent from me.

Not one more inch.

Support GOA and the 2AF.
The NRA just puts on a show to get your money.
 
After seeing the political donations I'm done with Benchmade. I was willing to give them a chance to explain the gun destruction but I wont buy anything from a company that gives a fine to Demoncrats.
 
Darkera said:
I honestly don't care - I'm a firearm owner and hunter and I see firearms as tools, not things to be worshipped. The cops were going to cut them up and whose bandsaw it was makes no difference to me and I do not see this as an infringement on the second amendment whatsoever - should firearms used in gang murders be re-homed too?

People also like to use support/opposition to police whenever it suits them. When the left is against the police they are against law-and-order and those brave boys in blue... when Benchmade lets the police use their facilities they are boot-lickers who Hate Your Freedom.

Making this a second amendment issue is obtuse at best and the internet warrior outrage (likely from mostly non-Benchmade fans/owners) is simply going to harm a good American company.

But some people just like to get mad about nothing, that's all the rage these days. Don't you want to go back to the days when careers/reputations/lives didn't implode overnight because someone misspoke, was misrepresented, or just plain made a mistake? You are a small business owner and I'm sure you wouldn't want to lose everything because someone decided to start an online campaign against you for whatever reason. The golden rule has been lost lately, it's pretty sad how people jump on the bandwagon and demand blood at first notice.
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Logic AND reason? On the Internet? Refreshing.
 
This is all nonsense. Benchmade sets up a booth at the NRA show. They support the military and police. They promote hunting.

The local cops asked them to do a favor destroying trash (mandated by the court) and they obliged. An idiot at the police deprtment trying to affiliate with a big popular local company took and posted a picture for whoever would follow a police department on social media (locals). But nothing on the internet stays local.

I can’t see how the founder of a huge knife company would have his position about the right to carry called into question. Searching deep corners of the internet for people’s personal political leanings sounds like something one would read about happening in China, not in a country that respects democracy. Have fun resurrecting McCarthy. I hope his zombie ass doesn’t start looking at the political dispositions of other knife makers as well.
 
kickert said:
"Benchmade supports Democrats, that's it, I am never buying one of their 100% USA made knives again."

"Spyderco is getting my money now. I'll show those lib-lovers by purchasing a foreign made knife."

Somehow the logic escapes me...
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I don't like Spydero's offshore production either, but many of their popular models are made in the US.
 
I'm no fanboy but agree with Benchmade on this issue. Support for LEO's is unconditional, even when they enforce laws I may not agree with.
 
GronK said:
I'm no fanboy but agree with Benchmade on this issue. Support for LEO's is unconditional, even when they enforce laws I may not agree with.
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I guess you’ll be supporting those LEOs when they’re breaking down your door to confiscate your firearms and knives because you can’t be trusted to own weapons unless you’re a cop or a politician?
 
Bad Ninja said:
The NRA folds every single time, a d supports red flag laws, bump stock bans and "sensible gun control" .
They won't get another cent from me.

Not one more inch.

Support GOA and the 2AF.
The NRA just puts on a show to get your money.
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Were merely examples ... Iowa has the Iowa Firearms Colation ... most states have their own groups you can support if you believe the NRA doesn't have your back ...

there is USCCA (United States Concealed Carry Association) ... that not only fights for your rights but offers training ... and offers legal counsel should you ever have to use your firearm to defend yourself or family ...

there are other knife right groups but Doug Ritter with Knife Rights is the face of that fight ...

so pick the organization that you trust and get involved ... that's the only way anyone should comment on this BM fail either way ... can't condem it if you don't stand and back pro 2A rights ...

and you can't say oh it's nothing to bother about ... unless you truely don't care what happens to guns or knives or individual rights to carry either ...

and for those saying sell sell ... or I'll buy your BM at half price ... really ???

how is that help for anything? ... other than for flippers to make a profit and not care one way or the other ... these aren't lip service posts ... nor are the issues laughable ...

I agree some probably overreact ... but that IMHO is no worse then those that don't see the terrible look this is for BM on top of other questionable things ...

if you want to continue to support Benchmade ... guess what ... it's a free country you still can ! ... and it's still a free country where you can because of the population being well armed and not rolling over to give up that right so no one wants to invade a place where to average population is armed nearly as well as the military ... that's because some see these acts and stand up and question them ...

now I'll get off the soapbox and that will be the last I post on this ... but it is more than "no big deal" ... and less than "the sky is falling" ...
 
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I guess you’ll be supporting those LEOs when they’re breaking down your door to confiscate your firearms and knives because you can’t be trusted to own weapons unless you’re a cop or a politician?
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If it comes to that it will be due to the pols that make the laws, not the first responders.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
Were merely examples ... Iowa has the Iowa Firearms Colation ... most states gave their own groups you can support if you believe the NRA doesn't have your back ...

there is USCCA (United States Concealed Carry Association) ... that not only fights for your rights but offers training ... and offers legal counsel should you ever have to use your firearm to defend yourself or family ...

there are other knife right groups but Doug Ritter with Knife Rights is the face of that fight ...

so pick the organization that you trust and get involved ... that's the only way anyone should comment on this BM fail either way ... can't condem it if you don't stand and back pro 2A rights ...

and you can't say oh it's nothing to bother about ... unless you truely don't care what happens to guns or knives or individual rights to carry either ...

and for those saying sell sell ... or I'll buy your BM at half price ... really ???

how is that help for anything? ... other than for flippers to make a profit and not care one way or the other ... these aren't lip service posts ... nor are the issues laughable ...

I agree some probably overreact ... but that IMHO is no worse then those that don't see the terrible look this is for BM on top of other questionable things ...

if you want to continue to support Benchmade ... guess what ... it's a free country you still can ! ... and it's still a free country where you can because of the population being well armed and not rolling over to give up that right so no one wants to invade a place where to average population is armed nearly as well as the military ... that's because some see these acts and stand up and question them ...

now I'll get off the soapbox and that will be the last I post on this ... but it is more than "no big deal" ... and less than "the sky is falling" ...
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There are lots of fine pro2A groups.


The NRA isn't one.
They support red flag laws, bump stock bans, and think you shouldn't own Fully Automatic weapons.

USCCA is very pro 2A but Tim Schmidt will FLOOD you with spam emails.
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Confusion?

I’m not confused.

You aligned yourself with an anti-second amendment police chief who refuses to sell guns. You donate to politicians who are very anti-second amendment.

There is really nothing you can do to earn my business again.
 
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Oh please sir, please can you show me the room where you destroy Freedom?
 
The issue with the donations will not be easily dismissed.

Far bigger problem, in my opinion, than the easily explained "helping the local cops."
 
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