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GronK said:
If it comes to that it will be due to the pols that make the laws, not the first responders.
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Those "first responders" swore an oath if I recall. Every one of them. "Just following orders" doesn't make it OK - regardless of the uniform or the flag they wear.
 
drail said:
Those "first responders" swore an oath if I recall. Every one of them. "Just following orders" doesn't make it OK - regardless of the uniform or the flag they wear.
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Right. Let all of them run around just enforcing what they agree with according to their own agendas and interpretations of whatever they swore an oath to. Sounds like a nice, sane way to go about one's business. :eek:
 
So who is going to buy ZT/Kershaw Knives now after KAI just stated on a couple of Instagram posts that they “make tools, not destroy them?”

IMO, this is about as douchy as a Non-American owned company can get. Nice guys.
 
GronK said:
Right. Let all of them run around just enforcing what they agree with according to their own agendas and interpretations of whatever they swore an oath to. Sounds like a nice, sane way to go about one's business. :eek:
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Well, the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law last time I checked. They even have a court called The Supremes. If you swear an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies then you are not enforcing "whatever you want". It's really pretty easy to read and grasp. I swore one and still hold it dear.
 
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SharpieB said:
So who is going to buy ZT/Kershaw Knives now after KAI just stated on a couple of Instagram posts that they “make tools, not destroy them?”

IMO, this is about as douchy as a Non-American owned company can get. Nice guys.
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Yeah, the foreign company that makes the majority of their products in CHINA weighs in over a phony controversy around gun rights in America. Who would be surprised that the company with the public rep who engages in every petty battle possible online would release a snarky comment like that? 8cr13kma.
 
drail said:
Well, the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law last time I checked. They even have a court called The Supremes. If you swear an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies then you are not enforcing "whatever you want". It's really pretty easy to read and grasp. I swore one and have never been told I was released from it.
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Set me free, why don't ya babe?
 
sanman28 said:
Clearly anti 2a. Doesnt matter if you are just "helping destroy" somebody else's property b/c of their policy.....you were helping them make a statement.
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Curious how many people will be changing their avatars. If you have a benchmade in your profile pick, you must be a communist.
 
SharpieB said:
So who is going to buy ZT/Kershaw Knives now after KAI just stated on a couple of Instagram posts that they “make tools, not destroy them?”

IMO, this is about as douchy as a Non-American owned company can get. Nice guys.
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I am. 450 will replace that 940 nicely.

Claiming to support a fundamental right while actively working against it, claiming to not contribute to political campaigns or individuals while donating to those who would also actively work against that right, is about as douchy as an American owned company can get.
 
jazub said:
This is all nonsense. Benchmade sets up a booth at the NRA show. They support the military and police. They promote hunting.

The local cops asked them to do a favor destroying trash (mandated by the court) and they obliged. An idiot at the police deprtment trying to affiliate with a big popular local company took and posted a picture for whoever would follow a police department on social media (locals). But nothing on the internet stays local.

I can’t see how the founder of a huge knife company would have his position about the right to carry called into question. Searching deep corners of the internet for people’s personal political leanings sounds like something one would read about happening in China, not in a country that respects democracy. Have fun resurrecting McCarthy. I hope his zombie ass doesn’t start looking at the political dispositions of other knife makers as well.
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I don't totally disagree with this, except that contrary to what the PD said, the only reason they are required by policy to destroy these guns is because of the policy that they wrote. No higher authority is requiring them to do so.
 
I take more issue with the donations to anti-2a liberals than I do with them destroying guns from court cases, etc. Due process was given prior to court orders being issued for the destruction of those firearms, so I see no infringement. Benchmade didn't go take those guns from anyone, they merely assisted a law enforcement agency to carry out their legal duties knowing that refusing to help wasn't going to prevent the guns from being destroyed -- the police would've just taken them someplace else and spent (more) taxpayer dollars to achieve the same end result.

I'm far from a BM fan boy but I think everyone needs to slow their roll a bit on this one.
 
PeterS84 said:
I take more issue with the donations to anti-2a liberals than I do with them destroying guns from court cases, etc. Due process was given prior to court orders being issued for the destruction of those firearms, so I see no infringement. Benchmade didn't go take those guns from anyone, they merely assisted a law enforcement agency to carry out their legal duties knowing that refusing to help wasn't going to prevent the guns from being destroyed -- the police would've just taken them someplace else and spent (more) taxpayer dollars to achieve the same end result.

I'm far from a BM fan boy but I think everyone needs to slow their roll a bit on this one.
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Wrong. The destruction assist resulted in exposing Benchmade's political donations. A distinction with a difference.
 
jazub said:
Yeah, the foreign company that makes the majority of their products in CHINA weighs in over a phony controversy around gun rights in America. Who would be surprised that the company with the public rep who engages in every petty battle possible online would release a snarky comment like that? 8cr13kma.
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Help me understand your reasoning. I'm pretty open minded.

I have spent thousands of dollars over the years on Benchmade knives. A portion of that money went to politicians who actively engage in efforts to forcibly remove my rights.

Explain how you could spin this as a "phony" controversy.
 
I will just leave this here.
use of specialty equipment within the Benchmade facility
So the Police Dept couldn't go buy themselves a cutoff saw?
100.00 at Harbor Freight.
 
PeterS84 said:
I take more issue with the donations to anti-2a liberals than I do with them destroying guns from court cases, etc. Due process was given prior to court orders being issued for the destruction of those firearms, so I see no infringement. Benchmade didn't go take those guns from anyone, they merely assisted a law enforcement agency to carry out their legal duties knowing that refusing to help wasn't going to prevent the guns from being destroyed -- the police would've just taken them someplace else and spent (more) taxpayer dollars to achieve the same end result.

I'm far from a BM fan boy but I think everyone needs to slow their roll a bit on this one.
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Why would you repeat that obvious lie?

Oregon law allows the police Dept to sell those guns.

https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.279
The court shall release a firearm or other deadly weapon forfeited under subsection (2) of this section to the law enforcement agency that seized the weapon. The law enforcement agency may destroy or sell the weapon, use the weapon as a service weapon or use the weapon for training, identification or demonstration purposes. When a weapon is sold pursuant to this subsection, the law enforcement agency shall pay the proceeds from the sale, less the costs of the sale, as provided in ORS 131.594
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There was no court order for destruction.

The police chief personally wanted them destroyed. He is an openly anti 2A gun grabber.
He isn't a judge, and it's his own policy, not a law.

Benchmade is trying to cover up their mistake by spewing this nonsense hoping the public is too dumb to understand Oregon laws.
 
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