Attention Select Your Favorite Brown Tone for Sawcut Bone!!

[Pàdruig]

Maybe it’s just the lighting, but the hemlock posted in this post:

Looks very similar to the blood red posted in this post:

Does that mean that the sawcut hemlock will come out looking very much like the blood red saw cut above?

Also, that chestnut Case is some of my favorite, so the similarities are promising, but I’m still voting for Copperhead.

My objectivity is certainly in question due to my obvious preference for red (in most cases) - however, I will try and assuage any concerns (no promises that I'll be effective).

The Blood Red 66 that I displayed above is a knife that I got in a trade for my 66 in Hemlock Green. I've handled both examples and can certainly attest to the fact that they are not at all the same. I have never seen Hemlock Green as being a red dye, it is most definitively brown (in my opinion) with some reddish undertones.

Yesterday, I made the comment that I thought Copperhead was more orangey-red than anything and though I still contend it is far more orange than I would like, I can also say that I was viewing the pictures on my phone at the beach. Hardly favorable viewing conditions - viewing the pics on my computer screen now, they look a bit different (and more pleasing). Viewing the examples you cited on my computer indoors, it is hard for me to confuse the two - one is most certainly brown and even has less red than other Hemlock examples where the blood red is most definitely red.

 

[Nature Boy]

To my eye, the Hemlock has a similar reddish-purplish hue to this sawcut Robeson Barlow.

 

[Sacto]

My objectivity is certainly in question due to my obvious preference for red (in most cases) - however, I will try and assuage any concerns (no promises that I'll be effective).

The Blood Red 66 that I displayed above is a knife that I got in a trade for my 66 in Hemlock Green. I've handled both examples and can certainly attest to the fact that they are not at all the same. I have never seen Hemlock Green as being a red dye, it is most definitively brown (in my opinion) with some reddish undertones.

Yesterday, I made the comment that I thought Copperhead was more orangey-red than anything and though I still contend it is far more orange than I would like, I can also say that I was viewing the pictures on my phone at the beach. Hardly favorable viewing conditions - viewing the pics on my computer screen now, they look a bit different (and more pleasing). Viewing the examples you cited on my computer indoors, it is hard for me to confuse the two - one is most certainly brown and even has less red than other Hemlock examples where the blood red is most definitely red.

I’ll trust you, since you have handled both (and I have no reason not to trust you). I’m looking at them on my phone which probably isn’t the best. The lighting in the picture and the angle of the picture obviously affect it also. I just had to scroll back and forth a few times because they looked so similar under the conditions that I’m seeing them. As I’ve said before, there’s no bad choice.

 

[Pàdruig]

I’ll trust you, since you have handled both (and I have no reason not to trust you). I’m looking at them on my phone which probably isn’t the best. The lighting in the picture and the angle of the picture obviously affect it also. I just had to scroll back and forth a few times because they looked so similar under the conditions that I’m seeing them. As I’ve said before, there’s no bad choice.

I think any option would look stellar - the 86 provides a bold canvas. The only choice that I am really not crazy about is the Antique Yellow. It is arguably one of GEC's most used dyes and I have (and have had) way too many knives in that particular color.

 

[Jsega51]

Pines and hemlocks are completely different kinds of trees.

I don’t want to jump into some sort of weird game of back of forth but the Eastern Hemlock is absolutely a pine tree.

 

[abbydaddy]

I don’t want to jump into some sort of weird game of back of forth but the Eastern Hemlock is absolutely a pine tree.

Technically, I believe that since Hemlock are in the genus Tsuga, not the genus Pinus, hemlock is a conifer, but not a pine. That said, the difference is pretty minor to most folks.

 

[Tetsujin 140.6]

Any photos of Hemlock and Copperhead posted available for side by side comparison? Post number and/or page appreciated.

 

[hhmoore]

Funny, I took it to mean depending on how Bill chose to finish a sawcut using the hemlock dye palette.

I agree with you and Dylan that some clarification would be welcomed!

I saw that possibly, as well. That's why I asked.

 

[waynorth]

Hemlock by any other name is still Hemlock! That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Is it Western Hemlock Charlie, I thought it was Eastern Hemlock, the state tree of Pennsylvania? I got to get it right, these species are new to me!

We are dealing with three different Hemlocks, Jack and Gary!! Eastern and Western Hemlocks are different trees, and thrive on their respective sides of Canada; and the Hemlock of Socrates is the Poisonous Shrub!!

 

[waynorth]

Another spot of news; I tried to talk to Bill, to ensure he will Color/dye these knives as we might ask, but he had to leave early today!! I will try again in the next couple of days.
While I am on the subject of native trees (Hemlocks), this is a Sheffield table knife, rehandled by my friend Bob, in Plane tree wood Culled in London!!
"Butler" etched knife, with "Crescent Knifeworks" on the back!!
Back to your regular broadcast!!!

 

[Sabercat]

We are dealing with three different Hemlocks, Jack and Gary!! Eastern and Western Hemlocks are different trees, and thrive on their respective sides of Canada; and the Hemlock of Socrates is the Poisonous Shrub!!

Yep, the wise Socrates was killed by the cousin of a carrot.

 

[JohnDF]

I'm thinking that some of the Hemlock voters are going to be surprised...
when their knife shows up and it's just a very basic Brown color.

 

[waynorth]

I'm thinking that some of the Hemlock voters are going to be surprised...
when their knife shows up and it's just a very basic Brown color.

Well, I have gotten some surprising colors for my SFOs!!!
Thankfully they have been accepted and enjoyed!!

 

[Tyson A Wright]

I'm thinking that some of the Hemlock voters are going to be surprised...
when their knife shows up and it's just a very basic Brown color.

I'm thinking that the people who voted Brown in the last poll are going to be surprised when hemlock wins and they end up with a red knife.

 

[waynorth]

I'm thinking that the people who voted Brown in the last poll are going to be surprised when hemlock wins and they end up with a red knife.

Ah, the futility of human endeavor!!
Hopefully it won't be Purple; - or Chartreuse!!

 

[EngrSorenson]

So wait... this is unclear.
If I eat my 86 hemlock forum knife... I'm going to die?
That's it! my vote is staying on Sepia!

If you can't eat your knife, what's the point?!

 

[Sacto]

If I eat my 86 hemlock forum knife... I'm going to die?

Depends if the knife is opened or closed.

 

[waynorth]

If you can't eat your knife, what's the point?!

I rest my futility argument!!

 

[Fox79]

I find it ironic that brown won, but now hemlock is winning in this poll when it looks red.

anyone else find that funny?

 

[Jsega51]

Technically, I believe that since Hemlock are in the genus Tsuga, not the genus Pinus, hemlock is a conifer, but not a pine. That said, the difference is pretty minor to most folks.

I knew this would become splitting the tiniest hairs lol. Cripes, it’s a member of the pine family ”tree” for lack of a better term according to its taxonomy. As far as it being a “completely different tree “, it’s not, and that’s why I responded to flesh wound.