Serrations?

CanadaKnifeGuy said:
Not just spearfishing, anything aquatic where entanglement might be a death sentence.

Same with rescue from a seatbelt or cutting just about any other manmade fiber or dense material.

Try cutting 8-12mm rope with a sharp plain Edge, vs a serrated one. Night and day and that can equal life or death.
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Thank you for that post.
 
I will say that for me (ex-EMT, ex-Corrections) there is a genuine difference in what I carry as a "rescue" blade, a "defensive" blade, or a "utility" blade.

Cold Steel's serrations are the best for cutting fabric, clothing, heavy line, anything where metal is not involved, bar none. BUT. You need to be pretty committed to leaving that blade in the dedicated role, as the serrations are comparatively delicate. You can cut through mid-gauge electrical wire once, maybe twice, before it needs serious rehab.

Spyderco wide serrations are more durable if you have to cut car door/window edging, with the metal spine, heavy line that may have sand/crap lodged in it, or even light sheet metal.

For clothing (denim pants legs), the couple of times I didn't have trauma shears handy, I used a Strider Hideaway knife, after a serrated edge started grabbing too much in the fabric. Having tested a few other non-live cuts in old jeans, I find a good plain edge more suitable to making cuts near someone's skin, with less risk of poking them when you hit a seam or line of reinforced stitching. A fresh CS edge is great, but if it's seen a few miles, it can grab a bit more than I like in this role. YMMV, etc., etc..
 
Not a fan of serrated blades. Have two centurian sak's that were advertised as plain blades but showed up being serrated. Both are still in the box with an older centurian being used on occasion. For whatever reason I've never warmed to serrated blades though I've had to use them on different occasions. They were other's knives, not mine.
 
Josh1973 said:
Yeah come landscaping with me and open 100 bags of mulch a day and cut vines for 8 hours and see how long a non serrated knife will stay sharp. It won't. I do not have time to sharpen and Steel a blade at work 5 or 6 times a day. Count me firmly on the full serrated side.
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I see, so a knife with no serrations can't cut those things, is that your viewpoint? Frankly, I don't need to open a hundred bags of mulch a day, and if I actually had to do that, I'd be using a boxcutter, not a knife. As for cutting vines, I'd use a machete, not a serrated pocket knife, so I'm missing your point. I am 100% confident however, that I could open enough bags of mulch with a non-serrated knife to do a standard "my own yard" sized job...because I've done it.

Lastly, maybe try using a knife made of quality steel. Sure, an 8cr beater isn't going to stand up to a bunch of materials cutting, no matter whether you have serrations or not.
 
Quiet said:
I see, so a knife with no serrations can't cut those things, is that your viewpoint? Frankly, I don't need to open a hundred bags of mulch a day, and if I actually had to do that, I'd be using a boxcutter, not a knife. As for cutting vines, I'd use a machete, not a serrated pocket knife, so I'm missing your point. I am 100% confident however, that I could open enough bags of mulch with a non-serrated knife to do a standard "my own yard" sized job...because I've done it.

Lastly, maybe try using a knife made of quality steel. Sure, an 8cr beater isn't going to stand up to a bunch of materials cutting, no matter whether you have serrations or not.
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Let's end this with lets agree to disagree. I feel like you are assuming I am some noob who does not know anything about knives. You win. In the end we can agree on one thing. We are knife people. You make a.good point on carrying a utility knife.
 
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Josh1973 said:
Let's end this with lets agree to disagree. I feel like you are assuming I am some noob who does not know anything about knives. You win. In the end we can agree on one thing. We are knife people. You make a.good point on carrying a utility knife.
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I feel like you're taking this personally. Odd, when you essentially tried to call me out. "Well, come work with ME doing a bunch of things that you don't have to do!" as though I must not know what I was talking about, and I simply put a stop to that. If serrations work for you, then that's fine. They don't serve any purpose to me, and I've done quite a lot of cutting in my time. The issue I have with serrations is that they are good for one thing, a thing which is a tremendously narrow use-case. Cutting mulch bags, and some vines, would serrations be useful? Sure. That doesn't mean a straight edge wouldn't do those tasks, which has been my point.

The issue I have with serrations is that it makes the knife useless for anything else, especially where most manufacturers tend to put the serrations on a half-serrated blade. In any case, we can agree to disagree.
 
I didn’t find them better for any job that plain edge can do. Only advantage is that it catches to things and rips them open.
 
Quiet said:
I feel like you're taking this personally. Odd, when you essentially tried to call me out. "Well, come work with ME doing a bunch of things that you don't have to do!" as though I must not know what I was talking about, and I simply put a stop to that. If serrations work for you, then that's fine. They don't serve any purpose to me, and I've done quite a lot of cutting in my time. The issue I have with serrations is that they are good for one thing, a thing which is a tremendously narrow use-case. Cutting mulch bags, and some vines, would serrations be useful? Sure. That doesn't mean a straight edge wouldn't do those tasks, which has been my point.

Dude, please let it go as I have. Tried to call you out? No sir I stated a few valid points. And believe me I am taking nothing personal from you. Just amazed at your insistance to keep beating a dead Horse. You sir are the one taking my choice of Knives personal and trying to discredit my posts and reasons. Your first post was calling me out. Stating a few reasons I like what I do. And yes I own a BM Adamas in D2. Also have a Buck 110 in S30v. You know what? It dulls quicker than an 8cr Byrd in my line of work. I even admitted you were right and gave you props about using a utility knife. What else do you want? Me to order you a Pizza and beer? I know I have little say since I am not a gold member and on a free account. And don't try to tell me Gold Members are not given more slack. You do not know much about landscaping if you think a Machete is good for Tree Ivy roots or flower beds with rare fragile plants. I doubt customers would appreciate me smacking their trees, flower beds, Wood fences, and bushes that cost thousands with a Machete. One mistake with a Machete can ruin expensive plants and damage expensive pots and statues. There is one reason we use Serrated knives. Another is less sharpening. Utility knives I admit was a good point. Would work. But I can see some disadvantages with that such as 1/2 cutting surface being a bit small for some jobs and those blades dull quicker than piss. I mainly use those for cutting linoleum and construction whick unfortunatly I had to quit due to severe foot issues that do not let me wear Steel Toes anymore. Yeah Serrated knives can cut roots in the ground without damaging bushes and flower beds. 90% of my knives are straight edge. And yes I use a Machete when I can. But not in Flower beds some people have over $20,000 on up in. Too big of a risk to use a Machete in some scenarios. Like to drop this now.
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"You're the one taking it personal, when you weren't addressing me, and I said "Yeah come landscaping with me and open 100 bags of mulch a day and cut vines for 8 hours and see how long a non serrated knife will stay sharp. It won't."

J Josh1973 Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
Quiet said:
"You're the one taking it personal, when you weren't addressing me, and I said "Yeah come landscaping with me and open 100 bags of mulch a day and cut vines for 8 hours and see how long a non serrated knife will stay sharp. It won't. "

Please stop embarrassing yourself.
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Dude, please let it go as I have. Tried to call you out? No sir I stated a few valid points. And believe me I am taking nothing personal from you. Just amazed at your insistance to keep beating a dead Horse. You sir are the one taking my choice of Knives personal and trying to discredit my posts and reasons. Your first post was calling me out. Stating a few reasons I like what I do. And yes I own a BM Adamas in D2. Also have a Buck 110 in S30v. You know what? It dulls quicker than an 8cr Byrd in my line of work. I even admitted you were right and gave you props about using a utility knife. What else do you want? Me to order you a Pizza and beer? I know I have little say since I am not a gold member and on a free account. And don't try to tell me Gold Members are not given more slack. You do not know much about landscaping if you think a Machete is good for Tree Ivy roots or flower beds with rare fragile plants. I doubt customers would appreciate me smacking their trees, flower beds, Wood fences, and bushes that cost thousands with a Machete. One mistake with a Machete can ruin expensive plants and damage expensive pots and statues. There is one reason we use Serrated knives. Another is less sharpening. Utility knives I admit was a good point. Would work. But I can see some disadvantages with that such as 1/2 cutting surface being a bit small for some jobs and those blades dull quicker than piss. I mainly use those for cutting linoleum and construction whick unfortunatly I had to quit due to severe foot issues that do not let me wear Steel Toes anymore. Yeah Serrated knives can cut roots in the ground without damaging bushes and flower beds. 90% of my knives are straight edge. And yes I use a Machete when I can. But not in Flower beds some people have over $20,000 on up in. Too big of a risk to use a Machete in some scenarios. Like to drop this now
 
Quiet said:
"You're the one taking it personal, when you weren't addressing me, and I said "Yeah come landscaping with me and open 100 bags of mulch a day and cut vines for 8 hours and see how long a non serrated knife will stay sharp. It won't."

J Josh1973 Please stop embarrassing yourself.
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Dude you are a Narcissist. Fuck it Go suck a 12 inch. Guys like you are the reason many manufacturers and people left blade forums and started their own forums.
 
A.L. said:
I didn’t find them better for any job that plain edge can do. Only advantage is that it catches to things and rips them open.
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blah blah blah. Go suck Qui ets dick. Your op in
Quiet said:
Quoted for posterity. You seem to have a hard time with people calling you on your nonsense. You may want to get that in check or you won't be here long. Guys like me? LOL Ok.
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No. I have a problem with douchebags like yourself who buy their little membership and feel need to belittle others. Where I come from you would end up hurt. I even tried to make peace and validate a few.points you made and your Narcissistic ass would not let it go. Another reason I like Serrated knives. Good for fucking up people in a self defense situation of course.
 
Josh1973 said:
blah blah blah. Go suck Qui ets dick. Your op in

No. I have a problem with douchebags like yourself who buy their little membership and feel need to belittle others. Where I come from you would end up hurt. I even tried to make peace and validate a few.points you made and your Narcissistic ass would not let it go. Another reason I like Serrated knives. Good for fucking up people in a self defense situation of course.
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More name calling, all because you don't like that I put your attempt at "Well, come with me, sonny" nonsense in its place. Got it.

Also, you seem really emotional. Might be time for you to take a break.
 
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Serrations have a place. Sometimes tough strapping is just easier to cut with serrations, like if you lose your mind when someone disagrees with you on the Internet and then end up strapped down for your own safety in an institution, it's much easier to hack your way free with a fully serrated blade. After you try cutting yourself free of a straight-jacket with a plain edge a few times you learn to appreciate the 'ole saw teeth.

;)
 
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