Shallow carry clips for ZT0561.

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freewheeling

freewheeling

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I found these and mounted them on my 561 to give me a bit more "meat" to grab to deploy the wave. I also mounted two, so I can switch pockets. Aesthetically they're a bit too long but ergonomically they've about right so I'll probably leave them that way. What do you think? I know they're a bit ugly but way cheaper than buying two XM clips.

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Wow.. seeing a knife with two pocket clips on at the same time looks... wow...

Awesome though. By the way, where in VA are you located? I'm in the NOVA area.
 
TEFL0N_D0N_81 said:
Wow.. seeing a knife with two pocket clips on at the same time looks... wow...

Awesome though. By the way, where in VA are you located? I'm in the NOVA area.
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Fairfax County. I've been in N. Virginia for... well, since the '90s (except for a brief period in Princeton).
 
man, you being inexperienced is an understatement.... That looks horrible, and cheap
 
greeenie said:
man, you being inexperienced is an understatement.... That looks horrible, and cheap
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I guess I should've spent $120 on pocket clips? You the guy whose comment got deleted on another thread? All I need to do is use these until I find some more attractive Ti substitutes somewhere. Glad I don't have your resentment. Who are you in competition with, dude?

But seriously, I *said* it was ugly. No need to be redundant. :)
 
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dishcore said:
OUCH! Pretty rough there fella.
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I'd call it hideous, and if I cared how it looked I'd shorten the clips and taper them a bit, or get a different shape and just re-drill the holes... but it works pretty well ergonomically and I can live with anything that has the utility I want. There were some flashlight clips that were pretty close to the Hinderer clips in looks but the tab wasn't the right shape and I didn't really want to mess with it. I'll eventually run across something better. And yeah, cheap. Like $5 cheap.

Or let me put it another way: It's a freakin' pocket clip!
 
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freewheeling said:
I guess I should've spent $120 on pocket clips? You the guy whose comment got deleted on another thread? All I need to do is use these until I find some more attractive Ti substitutes somewhere. Glad I don't have your resentment. Who are you in competition with, dude?

But seriously, I *said* it was ugly. No need to be redundant. :)
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Not in competition, just giving my opinion. I know the butthurt flows through the internet like the waters of a flooding river, but if you cant take criticism you might not want to be on the internet..... Ppl call it rude, i call it honesty. If you dont like it, dont post, because people are likely to be honest and forthcoming.
 
greeenie said:
Not in competition, just giving my opinion. I know the butthurt flows through the internet like the waters of a flooding river, but if you cant take criticism you might not want to be on the internet..... Ppl call it rude, i call it honesty. If you dont like it, dont post, because people are likely to be honest and forthcoming.
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No, there's being honest and being intentionally rude. You were extremely rude in your criticism.
 
I wouldnt go back and change a thing. I stand by my original assessment, and while its unique, it serves zero purpose I can see, other than to degrade the overall look of the knife. Like adding two spoilers onto the back of a prius... doesnt work, sorry

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freewheeling said:
What do you think?
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This was the question. If the OP was looking only for compliments, it might have helped to state that from the beginning.

You know, something like "Please keep your negative comments to yourself", or something similar.
 
Daddyo16 said:
This was the question. If the OP was looking only for compliments, it might have helped to state that from the beginning.

You know, something like "Please keep your negative comments to yourself", or something similar.
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There's a difference between constructive criticism and being disrespectful.
 
greeenie said:
I wouldnt go back and change a thing. I stand by my original assessment, and while its unique, it serves zero purpose I can see, other than to degrade the overall look of the knife. Like adding two spoilers onto the back of a prius... doesnt work, sorry

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Not so unique and as you continue your education on knifes you will find the purpose... CRKT has had the two clip options on their 1* M16's for years - carry left or right pocket and still have the Emerson wave like opening left or right carry. So some things has a real purpose, like the dual clip has a real purpose even if you don't know the purpose...

What is even cheaper and less aesthetic is the cable tie on a Spyderco hole for quick opening out of the pocket...

Siyafunda - search to understand and you will gain knowledge :-)
 
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greeenie said:
Not in competition, just giving my opinion. I know the butthurt flows through the internet like the waters of a flooding river, but if you cant take criticism you might not want to be on the internet..... Ppl call it rude, i call it honesty. If you dont like it, dont post, because people are likely to be honest and forthcoming.
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What are you, an industrial designer?

I apologize. That was uncalled for.
 
I grew up learning from experience and experience alone. And one of the things I learned, that had no ways around it, was this: If you're going to do something, do it right the first time. Otherwise don't get mad when it breaks or fails.

Just get the Hinderer clip if you want a high riding 560. One clip should on one knife should be just fine.

But if its what you like, then do what you want...just know you'll get some slack for being different.

Not even Jesus was liked by everyone ;)
 
greeenie said:
I wouldnt go back and change a thing. I stand by my original assessment, and while its unique, it serves zero purpose I can see, other than to degrade the overall look of the knife. Like adding two spoilers onto the back of a prius... doesnt work, sorry
Well, the purpose (which was clearly stated) was to allow me to grab more of the "meat" at the end of the handle than is allowed by the deep carry clip, and to put a clip on each side. The reason for the latter is that if I carry a firearm I want the knife in the left pocket, whereas otherwise I want it in the right. Finally, the ergonomics of the handle itself are a little thin so having two clips in symmetrical locations improves the ergonomics.

R.B. Fuller once said that if they'd tasked an industrial designer to design a ship what they'd end up with is a pile of garbage floating down the Hudson. I know all about Paul Klee et al and the origins of industrial design. It's a grandiose tragedy.

Or to put it another way, when the knife is in carry the only thing you see is the clip and a small bit of the knife so aesthetic considerations are of next to no importance compared to ergonomics. And when the knife is in use the clips are covered by the hand, so again it's irrelevant. The primary purpose of aesthetic design is to sell the knife in pictures, or more accurately to give you an image of what someone else wants so that you'll want it too. That is, on a simple but meaningful level it's to generate envy or mimetic desire. That's what marketing and advertising is all about. And since I have absolutely no interest in marketing this little treasure my only possible concern is the temporary one of pleasing you. And since in your case expressing your opinion trumps "aesthetics" you must be having fun. Mission accomplished!

Update: By "having fun" I mean the way athlete's foot is fun.
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