Sharpen a Busse

Gravelface said:
So is the WS just a tip eater? Or with a bit of care, could be overcame?

And I appreciate all the input!!!
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Depends on where you stop when you are drawing your knife through, if you stop around the middle of the belt you'd be fine. I believe it's because of how bendable some of the belts are, I'm thinking stiffer belts would fix this somewhat..
 
OilMan said:
Depends on where you stop when you are drawing your knife through, if you stop around the middle of the belt you'd be fine. I believe it's because of how bendable some of the belts are, I'm thinking stiffer belts would fix this somewhat..
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Yes, I think this is it. Any belt grinder can be a tip eater, ask me how I know. Stiffer belts and practice will reduce the risk.
 
A buddy told me to roll my window down and strop my Infi across the top. I did and holy hell it works rather well. I wasn't able to get this fold on my blade out completely. I am going to work more with it tomorrow. I have a flexxx strop ordered. Going to have to get that bend out before I can use it though.
 
I got the Ken Onion work sharp.... This thing is a beast. From dull to Razor edges shaving sharp in Minutes And no worries about the tips if you follow the directions. It's gotten all the tips nice and pointy....very pointy. Now I'm missing patches of hair all over my arms and legs.
 
Gravelface said:
I got the Ken Onion work sharp.... This thing is a beast. From dull to Razor edges shaving sharp in Minutes And no worries about the tips if you follow the directions. It's gotten all the tips nice and pointy....very pointy. Now I'm missing patches of hair all over my arms and legs.
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I have been looking at this exact sharpener. Can I ask how long you have had it / how much you have used it and if it seems durable? I know on the instructional videos that it works well for smaller blades, have you used it on any larger Busses?
 
I don't know -- I have the ken onion sharpener -- and while I do love how quickly it can sharpen --- I feel like it has some limitations due to their "adjustable" angle guide. You basically can't apply lateral pressure onto the guide to try to get exact/precise edges -- meaning you can't comfortable rest/push the spine of the knife against the angle guide without changing the angle on it. There's a lot more of a freehand concept while using it. I also find it difficult to sharpen thick busses with an angle of 20 degrees each side. I found that anything .25 or more had trouble being sharpened with a 20 degree angle.

That being said -- I love it for a quick reprofile of any dull/overly thick edge. It's also great for cheap - mid level quality kitchen knives. It can produce some very sharp edges. I say go for it -- but just know it has some limitations.
 
I've had it a couple days, first 2 "practice" knives were kitchen style and were both razors after a few minutes. I've run some larger (10") blades from other makers with the same results. I've done probably less than 10 knives so far and none have been a disappointment. Everything from 1/32 to 5/16ths. Only "problem" I've encountered so far was a tanto folder, the front angle is pretty short and I'm working on how to get a consistant grind on it. I imagine once I have some real experience with the WS, it work be an issue.

As far as the actual device, it seems well built. 1 year warranty on it. But like I've said....I've only had it for a couple days. I haven't even tried the specialized knife sharpening attachment. The results I'm getting from the base model exceeded my expectations.
 
Gravelface said:
I've had it a couple days, first 2 "practice" knives were kitchen style and were both razors after a few minutes. I've run some larger (10") blades from other makers with the same results. I've done probably less than 10 knives so far and none have been a disappointment. Everything from 1/32 to 5/16ths. Only "problem" I've encountered so far was a tanto folder, the front angle is pretty short and I'm working on how to get a consistant grind on it. I imagine once I have some real experience with the WS, it work be an issue.

As far as the actual device, it seems well built. 1 year warranty on it. But like I've said....I've only had it for a couple days. I haven't even tried the specialized knife sharpening attachment. The results I'm getting from the base model exceeded my expectations.
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Hey Brother,

Is there any chance you can let me know how you managed the 10 inch knife that was 5/16ths. I haven't been able to do that for the life of me. Are you keeping the angles at 20 degrees? If so --- would you pretty pretty pleeeeeease show me --- I really would love to get this figured out. Thanks man!

-Rob Abyane
 
Rob_Mob said:
I don't know -- I have the ken onion sharpener -- and while I do love how quickly it can sharpen --- I feel like it has some limitations due to their "adjustable" angle guide. You basically can't apply lateral pressure onto the guide to try to get exact/precise edges -- meaning you can't comfortable rest/push the spine of the knife against the angle guide without changing the angle on it. There's a lot more of a freehand concept while using it. I also find it difficult to sharpen thick busses with an angle of 20 degrees each side. I found that anything .25 or more had trouble being sharpened with a 20 degree angle.

That being said -- I love it for a quick reprofile of any dull/overly thick edge. It's also great for cheap - mid level quality kitchen knives. It can produce some very sharp edges. I say go for it -- but just know it has some limitations.
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I appreciate the input, Rob, that is exactly what I was wanting to know. I am looking for something to sharpens some thicker Busses (.22+) on and was wondering how this sharpener would work. The ease of use really appeals to me, but if it doesn't work well for that application it doesn't do me any good.
 
Another issue with the KO WS is that you will want to do all of your knives with it, even the ones that won't really benefit from a convex edge, because it's so easy to use. Found myself changing a couple of folders back to conventional from convex on my Edgepro.. :-)
 
A lot of zombie threads! Maybe it's a sign that the end (of the wait) is near!
 
If the edge angle suits my desires, then I just use a strop with black and white Bark River compound. Sometimes I do two passes on the fine Sharpmaker stones in advance if necessary.
I did some reprofiling with a Wicked Edge Gen 1 and this system has a serious disadvantage. The sharpening angle changes over the length of the blade so if you clamp the knife near the ricasso, the edge angle will get lower towards the tip.
This problem is eliminated in the Generation III ...which costs like USD 850?

I once bought a used TGLB which had a messed up tip. Was fixed within 30 Minutes with a Fallkniven DC-4 and some 1200 Grit sandpaper.
If you know how to properly sharpen a blade and have techniques which work for you, then INFI will be easy and SR-101 very easy to sharpen and maintain.
Hell, SR-101 performs so much better than 1095 and is easier to sharpen. I love that stuff!

The Ken Onion WS really shines if you buy the additional blade grinder attachment.
I tend to mess up the tips of the knives when using the KO WS because the belt doesn't stop early enough or I drag the knife too far ... no problem with the blade grinder attachment, you just lift the blade off the running belt.
Gonna try it soon!
 
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