Should Chris Reeve Knives should team up with Zero Tolerance?

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Just a reminder, for anyone assuming that a CRK collaboration would be unprecedented:
  • G&G Hawk designed the CRK Ti-Lock.
  • Chris Reeve and Bill Harsey co-designed the CRK Green Beret.
  • Chris and Bill co-designed the Fantoni Razionale. (I'm not sure who actually bought this. Italians?)
Personally I'd like to see CRK bring back Scott Cook. I don't know why he left the company, but today he produces the (almost impossible to buy) Lochsa, which is essentially an integral Sebenza. I can hardly think of another designer, or another knife, that would more perfectly help CRK reaffirm its relevance.

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I am sorry but what I seem to be hearing is you want a knife unlike what CRK makes in a flipper maybe on bearings of cheaper price and quality and for them to throw their name in association with it so you can say you have the CRK ZT. Nothing stopping ZT from designing & making their own knife and leave CRK to do what they do best.
As for Chris working with ZT on a flipper-I will have to see it to believe it.
IMO CRK does not need a flipper in their line up. There are already too many making them already. Every once in awhile I buy a flipper thinking with everyone chanting for flippers I must be missing something, and every time I sell it and scratch my head-what do people see in these. Give me a non-flipper any day.
There is a possible clue in there as to why I may not be for the project:)
 
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vanadium said:
Just a reminder, for anyone assuming that a CRK collaboration would be unprecedented:
  • G&G Hawk designed the CRK Ti-Lock.
  • Chris Reeve and Bill Harsey co-designed the CRK Green Beret.
  • Chris and Bill co-designed the Fantoni Razionale. (I'm not sure who actually bought this. Italians?)
Personally I'd like to see CRK bring back Scott Cook. I don't know why he left the company, but today he produces the (almost impossible to buy) Lochsa, which is essentially an integral Sebenza. I can hardly think of another designer, or another knife, that would more perfectly help CRK reaffirm its relevance.

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I somehow remember another third party knife Chris Reeve designed. Anyone remember what it is? I wonder if there is a place I could find a list of every knife Chris Reeve designed. Infact it could be a cool idea for a thread. A sticky thread with a huge list of knife designers and then every knife they designed.
 
Lapedog said:
I somehow remember another third party knife Chris Reeve designed. Anyone remember what it is? I wonder if there is a place I could find a list of every knife Chris Reeve designed. Infact it could be a cool idea for a thread. A sticky thread with a huge list of knife designers and then every knife they designed.
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Nice idea for the sticky. If you start it, I'll contribute. I'm pretty sure Chris Reeve secretly designed the ZT 0700...
 
T.L.E. Sharp said:
Eww, no bearings. It'd ruin the sebenza.
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vanadium said:
The Shrogorov Hati...flips amazingly...on washers...and Chris Reeve Knives...a master of washer bearing systems...should use...ball bearings...:confused:

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You guys are fun. I'd be fine with a knife with washers. ZT is known for ball bearing flipper and doing them well so I figured that just as with Hinderer that would be something they would bring to the table because Hinderer flips on washers. A Shiro is similar pricing to a CRK I've never seen their washers but I can't help but think CRK's washers would be pricier to manufacture than bearings?
 
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vanadium said:
Just a reminder, for anyone assuming that a CRK collaboration would be unprecedented:
  • G&G Hawk designed the CRK Ti-Lock.
  • Chris Reeve and Bill Harsey co-designed the CRK Green Beret.
  • Chris and Bill co-designed the Fantoni Razionale. (I'm not sure who actually bought this. Italians?)
Personally I'd like to see CRK bring back Scott Cook. I don't know why he left the company, but today he produces the (almost impossible to buy) Lochsa, which is essentially an integral Sebenza. I can hardly think of another designer, or another knife, that would more perfectly help CRK reaffirm its relevance.

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Add CRK's clip to that (one screw vs three) and that may be the best integral I've seen.
 
bluemetalchurch said:
So maybe as some others have stated maybe CRK doesn't need to team up with CRK but Chris Reeve himself could do a collab. He is after all "semi-retired."

I'd be just as happy as that.
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I wonder if Chris signed some sort of non-compete when he left the company. Could be why he doesn't have new designs yet. Maybe he'll be inspired and come back when it expires.
 
mongomondo said:
I wonder if Chris signed some sort of non-compete when he left the company. Could be why he doesn't have new designs yet. Maybe he'll be inspired and come back when it expires.
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Last I heard, he still had a position with CRK as design consultant
 
Is it not enough that flippers and bearings have drowned the knife market and every chump with a workshop is trying to churn out these soul-less frame lock flippers?

Leave CRK to do what they do, and leave ZT to keep making jewelry.
 
I have many CRKs and many ZTs that I like a lot. In my opinion, never the twain shall meet. They each do what they do well. Let ZT do more Emerson collaborations. They need all the help they can get ;)

If any such collaboration did occur, please let it be a thumb stud opener on washers. The novelty of flippers and ball bearings has grown thin, at least for me.

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So this is still going...

CRK, as siad earlier, has no need for ZT. They are a production company and they produce their style of knives with great accuracy and what I see as great passion. They do a great job with their business model.

ZT uses great designers as part of their great business model. They do a great job with their business model and could do better with bringing a CRK deign into their portfolio.

To put my thoughts in perspective, can you even imagine ZT making a PM2 or a Griptilian? I would say, no, there is no need as both are done very well by their perspective manufacturers. (I know the Grip is a Pradue design, but at this point it is quintessential Benchmade)

Maybe we should ask if ZT should do a Mayo, a Jim Burke, a David Mosier or some other custom maker (ala Rexford/Sinkevich) that they can bring to the masses.

Get over this colaboration folks. It doens’t Make business sense and is not needed by the designer.

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T.L.E. Sharp said:
Of course!!! Everyone under the sun is making Klingon battleships designed by that Isham fellow, but no one is making a Dr. Death?!?!?! WTF
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WTF? Really? I’m just trying to bring some custom maker examples to the table. WTF.
 
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