Smoother than Chris Reeves?

SV-97 said:
Fox Knives Terzuola; imo all around a better knife than CRKs (one can argue about the bladesteel).
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Better for you? Sure that’s a fair respectable opinion. A better made knife? No way in hell. In my opinion of course.
 
johnnytoxin said:
Better for you? Sure that’s a fair respectable opinion. A better made knife? No way in hell. In my opinion of course.
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Have you ever handled/disassembled one? For me personally neither of them is the right knife (apart from playing around with it).
 
Wow - thanks for all of the replies!

I had a feeling that the conversation might meander into the bearing vs washer realm. I think that what I was probably (incorrectly?) referring to as smoothness at the start of this thread was probably more the feel of a great washer / bushing pivot versus the frictionless flick of bearings.

I can "feel" a pretty significant difference between the Inkosi and Sebenza, so I guess tactility must just be my "thing" :)
 
DaCubs said:
Wow - thanks for all of the replies!

I had a feeling that the conversation might meander into the bearing vs washer realm. I think that what I was probably (incorrectly?) referring to as smoothness at the start of this thread was probably more the feel of a great washer / bushing pivot versus the frictionless flick of bearings.
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I can "feel" a pretty significant difference between the Inkosi and Sebenza, so I guess tactility must just be my "thing" :)
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There is a difference in feel between the Sebenza and Inkosi but it's the same only different. Meaning the general feel is the same but the Inkosi is smoother and more liquid feeling. Both have the same CRK DNA.
 
MSchott said:
There is a difference in feel between the Sebenza and Inkosi but it's the same only different. Meaning the general feel is the same but the Inkosi is smoother and more liquid feeling. Both have the same CRK DNA.
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Seems on the examples I have owned the Inkosi comes smoother out of the box and can be adjusted to maximize that smoothness. Sebenza comes less free out the box but breaks into an extremely smooth action.

To be fair my small 21 is my oldest crk and thus has had the most time to break in. The Inkosi hasn’t been carried as much so could continue to break in and become even smoother than my sebbie.
 
That's interesting. For me, the Inkosi (very recent vintage) is "less smooth" - probably because of the stronger detent and higher pressure of the lockbar on the blade tang. I did have to adjust the Inkosi after receiving it (and actually remove some of the grease, which was coming out the sides) to get it in the same ballpark as my Seb, but even so, the Seb feels better to me (yeah, I know, whatever that means!).

> Both have the same CRK DNA.

And you are right - even though the two knives use different pivot structures, they are definitely cut from the same cloth.
 
SV-97 said:
Have you ever handled/disassembled one? For me personally neither of them is the right knife (apart from playing around with it).
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In all honesty no I have not handled or disassembled the Fox. I do own and edc a CRK umnumzaan though and I have owned and used a Sebenza 21 and 25 in the past. So my personal opinion on the matter is admittedly biased. However there is enough readily available information from which I could develop an educated opinion on the matter having not owned or handled any of the knives in question. The main evidence being CRK’s numerous blade show awards for manufacturing quality.
 
I would say Rockstead is about the closest to replicating the CRK action that I've come across. Jason Guthrie's customs come close, but the blade does fall a little more freely.
 
For a frame/liner lock knife with a bearing pivot, the blade is pretty much free-falling without the pressure from the detent ball.
In other words, what determines the "smoothness" is the detent ball, detent ball track, and probably the weight of the blade (assuming that there is no blade play).

It is different for frame/liner lock knives with washers.
CRK blades I own are not free falling, when the detent is out of the way.
PM2 blade is free-falling, while those of Spydiechef and Gayle Bradley 1 are not.

But they are all "smooth" with their own distinctive feels.
I guess what really matters is not the smoothness part but the distinctive feel department.
 
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