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worldwood said:
... modding it would decrease its value as well, no matter how nice it looked to me the collectors value would be gone to any collectors...
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That whole concept is far, far outside my wheelhouse. I do not understand the collector/resale market at all, and I probably never will... my brain just isn't wired that way.

Knives are tools; nothing more, nothing less.
 
james terrio said:
That whole concept is far, far outside my wheelhouse. I do not understand the collector/resale market at all, and I probably never will... my brain just isn't wired that way. Knives are tools, nothing more, nothing less.
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Knives are tools, great knives are great tools, when you get into some of the truly amazing craftsmen and women out there, then knives can be tools AND art.
I get the collector thing, for people with disposable income. Its not much different than putting a 3 thousand dollar picture on your wall, to buy a 3000 dollar knife and display it, assuming your buying actual collectible tools.
Having said that, I personally dont have the disposable income to actually DO any of that. So when I have something that I dont use, it goes to fund something that I will use and love.
 
Good gravy, you had to bring "art" into it...

I've had the privilege and pleasure of examining a heckuva lotta insanely expensive knives, and I can count on one hand the ones that I would consider to be "art" pieces. Embellishing the living daylights out of a cutting tool, or employing exotic materials, does not make it "art".
 
You guys are a bad influence. I'm buying duplicates and triplicates of stoves.

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james terrio said:
Good gravy, you had to bring "art" into it...

I've had the privilege and pleasure of examining a heckuva lotta insanely expensive knives, and I can count on one hand the ones that I would consider to be "art" pieces. Embellishing the living daylights out of a cutting tool, or employing exotic materials, does not make it "art".
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In your eyes it doesnt, but good thing there is a entire world out here with different opinions.

And At the same time an ugly knife is an embarrassment to use.

Ill spend 100++ more on a knife the same steel, same quality and all for the one that looks better. I do all the time.

2 knives out of my favorite steel, 1 cost 140 but the scales are epoxied and screwed together, the grind was rushed and uneven the handles are made of cheap material, or poorly shaped scrap wood, well those get a chuckle out of me.

Another one cost 300 but the man took his time, shaped the handles out of really nice materials, smooth grind and plunge lines used mosaic pins or nice fasteners.... Well them worth the money and i have a few.

Its all preference some people dont mind rough looking tools, some prefer it. And some of us want the tools that work the best and look the best doing it all rolled up in 1... And we will, and DO pay for this.
 
tfields said:
in on five i think!?
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Same here. I blinked and we are on page 5. Moving right along...

In other news I've decided to order another BK11 and try to love it. Gave the last one away in a contest and I miss that strange little bugger.
 
We're out of milk and I'm eating dry cereal. The horror.
 
james terrio said:
Good gravy, you had to bring "art" into it...

I've had the privilege and pleasure of examining a heckuva lotta insanely expensive knives, and I can count on one hand the ones that I would consider to be "art" pieces. Embellishing the living daylights out of a cutting tool, or employing exotic materials, does not make it "art".
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Agreed James, but some peoples work, to me is art even un embellished.
 
Eero said:
Same here. I blinked and we are on page 5. Moving right along...

In other news I've decided to order another BK11 and try to love it. Gave the last one away in a contest and I miss that strange little bugger.
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Get the micarta!
 
I like it when art and function are combined. Jerry Fisk's knives are a great example here. Can't afford it, but I like it.

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Guyon said:
I like it when art and function are combined. Jerry Fisk's knives are a great example here. Can't afford it, but I like it.

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If that was mine I would stipple the grips and add a bunch of jimping
 
worldwood said:
In your eyes it doesnt, but good thing there is a entire world out here with different opinions.
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You are absolutely correct! "Art" is in the eye of the beholder, and I certainly do not begrudge anyone's tastes. It's good for everyone that so many different styles and approaches are embraced.

My whole approach to knives starts from the edge and works backwards from there... if it doesn't cut worth a hoot, I simply don't care how pretty it is. That's what I mean when I say "knives are tools".

I've seen knives made by ABS mastersmiths and Knifemaker's Guild members that are absolutely useless... really cool-looking, but not useful for a dang thing. There's something inside my brain that just rankles at that. Lots of people love 'em though, and it's no skin off my nose :)

worldwood said:
And At the same time an ugly knife is an embarrassment to use.
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I could not agree more. :thumbup: Plain or fancy, I consider poor craftsmanship and shoddy workmanship to be a personal insult. Doing anything half-vast is like saying "Screw you, I just don't care" to the whole world... and that makes me angry.

You mentioned rough-looking tools... I have zero patience for "rough" when it exhibits laziness. I have no problem at all with simple, but well-made knives that some would scoff at for being too unadorned. On the other hand, some folks like Rick Marchand make knives that have a distinct "rough" look to them, but they are exquisitely designed, expertly crafted, and perform very well. I consider that to be artistry.

Guyon said:
I like it when art and function are combined. Jerry Fisk's knives are a great example here.
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Mr. Fisk is an outstanding example of that. :thumbup:
 
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