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[james terrio]

Foliage you dont live in a desert!

Somewhat surprisingly, I have found that brown and especially grey blend in much better with the forests where I grew up and live now, than green does. Take a look around your typical woodsy setting... it's not green at all from just above the ground to ten or twenty feet up. It's mostly tree trunks... which are hardly ever green or camo. The leafy greenery that's there will break up your outline whether you spent money on fancy pants or not.

Unless you're standing perfectly still or actually up in a tree or buried in a sniper "hide" or turkey blind (in which case, you're pretty much camouflaged by the trees, branches and leaves anyway), most "camo" patterns either stand out like a sore thumb, and/or blend into a big blob of dark color anyway. Regardless, as soon as you move, you're seen.

Camo is wayyy over-rated, and mostly marketing hype. There, I said it!

 

[worldwood]

Wow, never seen them locally. I have the full size Sawyer for my BOB, and got this one for my hiking needs.

Im happy to see these are working so well for ya bud. I love Sawyer water filters. they work great without costing an arm and a leg. good stuff.

 

[Psyop]

Somewhat surprisingly, I have found that brown and especially grey blend in much better with the forests where I grew up and live now, than green does. Take a look around your typical woodsy setting... it's not green at all from just above the ground to ten or twenty feet up. It's mostly tree trunks... which are hardly ever green or camo. The leafy greenery that's there will break up your outline whether you spent money on fancy pants or not.

Unless you're standing perfectly still or actually up in a tree or buried in a sniper "hide" or turkey blind (in which case, you're pretty much camouflaged by the trees, branches and leaves anyway), most "camo" patterns either stand out like a sore thumb, and/or blend into a big blob of dark color anyway. Regardless, as soon as you move, you're seen.

Camo is wayyy over-rated, and mostly marketing hype. There, I said it!

Sheesh I was just trying to help him out so he didnt look like one of those Naval Infantry guys.......

 

[LeeBower]

I have to agree somewhat, I played paintball for years and saw every kind of camo in the field and most of it does just stick out.. One guy made a ghillie suit out of hay, grass, sticks, leaves..anything he could find and it was great.. you could see him moving, but when he was still it became invisible. I watched a show on some sniper group (not sure which branch of US military) and their camo techniques and they could hide in a field and have a unit walk through and not find them..so camouflage does work, but I think you have to go a lot further into it than just clothing or simple patterns.

Somewhat surprisingly, I have found that brown and especially grey blend in much better with the forests where I grew up and live now, than green does. Take a look around your typical woodsy setting... it's not green at all from just above the ground to ten or twenty feet up. It's mostly tree trunks... which are hardly ever green or camo. The leafy greenery that's there will break up your outline whether you spent money on fancy pants or not.

Unless you're standing perfectly still or actually up in a tree or buried in a sniper "hide" or turkey blind (in which case, you're pretty much camouflaged by the trees, branches and leaves anyway), most "camo" patterns either stand out like a sore thumb, and/or blend into a big blob of dark color anyway. Regardless, as soon as you move, you're seen.

Camo is wayyy over-rated, and mostly marketing hype. There, I said it!

 

[LeeBower]

Wow, never seen them locally. I have the full size Sawyer for my BOB, and got this one for my hiking needs.

They got 4 of them, 2 of the bottles and 2 of the bigger kits and they have sat on the shelf since.. the boxes are all beat up now.. I check on them almost every time i go in the place.. some day they will have them on the clearance isle..

 

[LeeBower]

Not sure if this is true, but it would be the greatest thing ever..

 

[worldwood]

Camo is wayyy over-rated, and mostly marketing hype. There, I said it!

I disagree. We did several... more than that we did a lot of test in the Army with different, solid color materials and different camo pattern materials, in different environments, some staged environments as well just to learn how effective different camo patterns are compared to the same solid colors, green, brown, tan etc. etc... We tested the old BDU camo patterns against the new ACU type digital camo patterns and everything.

Tested, tried, and true. Camo patterns works better than any single color in most all environments even snow. Its easier to have multiple shades blend in, than to match a single color to a natural landscape, even if you were an exact match, which is damn near impossible, we found that its easier to see the lines of where the object begins and ends with single colors than it is with camo patterns with multiple color shades in it.

 

[Chameleonbear]

On the back of my hat I have a 3" strip of loops for an identification tape. I am trying to find where to get the tape.

 

[cbwoods67]

Somewhat surprisingly, I have found that brown and especially grey blend in much better with the forests where I grew up and live now, than green does. Take a look around your typical woodsy setting... it's not green at all from just above the ground to ten or twenty feet up. It's mostly tree trunks... which are hardly ever green or camo. The leafy greenery that's there will break up your outline whether you spent money on fancy pants or not.

Unless you're standing perfectly still or actually up in a tree or buried in a sniper "hide" or turkey blind (in which case, you're pretty much camouflaged by the trees, branches and leaves anyway), most "camo" patterns either stand out like a sore thumb, and/or blend into a big blob of dark color anyway. Regardless, as soon as you move, you're seen.

Camo is wayyy over-rated, and mostly marketing hype. There, I said it!

I killed a deer this season from fifteen yards and I was standing in the middle of a pasture wearing a blaze orange vest and cap.

 

[Guyon]

I'm not terribly worried about camo. I've got camo gear out the ying-yang. I just want to know which color will accentuate my alluring eyes the best. My initial disposition was to go with coyote (sorry Psyop). Then, I about talked myself into foliage (sorry Murph). Now, I've waffled back toward coyote (sorry Psyop).

 

[daizee]

I killed a deer this season from fifteen yards and I was standing in the middle of a pasture wearing a blaze orange vest and cap.

yeah, but you spray-painted the grass orange first, so it doesn't count.

 

[Psyop]

I'm not terribly worried about camo. I've got camo gear out the ying-yang. I just want to know which color will accentuate my alluring eyes the best. My initial disposition was to go with coyote (sorry Psyop). Then, I about talked myself into foliage (sorry Murph). Now, I've waffled back toward coyote (sorry Psyop).

Coyote looks like dog turds

 

[Psyop]

The hawk came back after I scared it off. I guess it wanted some more chicken

 

[cbwoods67]

yeah, but you spray-painted the grass orange first, so it doesn't count.

Shhhh...

That's my secret to success.

 

[worldwood]

At least its eating what it killed. Awesome pictures Psyop, sorry bout loosing a chicken.

 

[Psyop]

At least its eating what it killed. Awesome pictures Psyop, sorry bout loosing a chicken.

Ah its part of it. If we let them run around they have better lives and are healthier but stuff happens. That one was our favorite she was real friendly but the hawk has to eat too. Now I just hope it dosnt set up camp in our yard that wont work lol

 

[Guyon]

Coyote looks like dog turds

Well there is that.

 

[worldwood]

Ah its part of it. If we let them run around they have better lives and are healthier but stuff happens. That one was our favorite she was real friendly but the hawk has to eat too. Now I just hope it dosnt set up camp in our yard that wont work lol

Id find a weak BB gun or those plastic air guns that shoot plastic BBs to keep the hawk away from the other chickens if it did try and set up shop. Nothing so powerful it would really injure the bird, just to scare it away. im not sure the legality of using one on a hawk or not but i reckon you should be allowed to keep your animals on your property from being eaten by wild ones... but really i have no clue.

 

[james terrio]

I killed a deer this season from fifteen yards and I was standing in the middle of a pasture wearing a blaze orange vest and cap.

I'm sayin :thumbup:

As for camo to hide from other humans, I will defer to folks like WW and the military, who have spent gazillions on patterns that make no sense to me... There's a famous pic on the internet that shows a dude in digital camo taking a nap on a floral-pattern couch, which I find tremendously amusing.

I was speaking more about the huge industry that has blossomed around the hunting community... and as for that topic, I refer again to Cooper's comment above.

There is a huge body of work which points pretty decisively towards blaze orange being not very visible at all to game animals (reds and oranges are the most difficult colors to distinguish), while blue is hugely visible to them and us. The theory is that even "color-blind" critters see blue like a beacon, since they evolved to look for clear sky and open water. So... Levi's are probably not the best thing to wear when scouting or hunting.

I just want to know which color will accentuate my alluring eyes the best.

Baby blue is always the best bet for that. It brings out the sparkle in even dark brown or hazel eyes, and really makes green eyes "pop". Also, a moderate amount of eyeliner, and just a touch of mascara if you do not have naturally thick, long, luscious lashes like I do. Trust me on this, I used to play guitar in rock bands. :thumbup:

 

[crimsonfalcon07]

I have to agree somewhat, I played paintball for years and saw every kind of camo in the field and most of it does just stick out.. One guy made a ghillie suit out of hay, grass, sticks, leaves..anything he could find and it was great.. you could see him moving, but when he was still it became invisible. I watched a show on some sniper group (not sure which branch of US military) and their camo techniques and they could hide in a field and have a unit walk through and not find them..so camouflage does work, but I think you have to go a lot further into it than just clothing or simple patterns.

Back when I was playing paintball and airsoft, I put together a ghillie. Mine was rigged out with netting glued to the outside flaps of molle pouches, by and large, with a hood attached to the top of the plate carrier, and then dyed jute and burlap in varying thickness and colors attached. I would also tie on leaves and twigs from the field. Made for a nice modular ghillie that allowed considerably better access to equipment than the usual. I should probably figure out how to mass-produce them and patent the idea