Snarking in the New Year! - now without forum breaking discontent

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bigghoss said:
This lady misunderstood. She's wearing a sweater sans pants. She's not doing it right but I don't wan't to call it wrong either.
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I now understand the big bad wolf :D Little red riding hood, you sure are looking good!



Um... Can I just replace a 15amp fuse switch thingy on my breaker box in my shop for a 20amp? I have flipped it several times and now completely blew the fuse.

My table saw is 13a. My shop heater is 13a. 15 gives me barely enough for the lights and heater.

I have 2 separate 15a fuse/switch things in my shop breaker box, just want to replace one to a 20amp and leave the other at 15.

But I'm not sure if that's ok to do or of it will cause too much power to something else.

My power wire running out the breaker box says 600 volt and awg 14... Some other crap is on the wire too but doesn't look important lol. Not sure if that's relevant or not though.
 
worldwood said:
I now understand the big bad wolf :D Little red riding hood, you sure are looking good!



Um... Can I just replace a 15amp fuse switch thingy on my breaker box in my shop for a 20amp? I have flipped it several times and now completely blew the fuse.

My table saw is 13a. My shop heater is 13a. 15 gives me barely enough for the lights and heater.

I have 2 separate 15a fuse/switch things in my shop breaker box, just want to replace one to a 20amp and leave the other at 15.

But I'm not sure if that's ok to do or of it will cause too much power to something else.

My power wire running out the breaker box says 600 volt and awg 14... Some other crap is on the wire too but doesn't look important lol. Not sure if that's relevant or not though.
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. I don't really know but I think if a circut has a 15amp breaker than the whole thing is only meant to carry 15 amps. I could be wrong, I can't even keep amps, volts, and watts straight. Probably ought to call a pro.


Jerry D. said:
You know what... If Hoss claims it as his, I believe him. He'll rear the snark baby as his own and gladly cash the support checks.
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Yeah I will.
 
worldwood said:
I now understand the big bad wolf :D Little red riding hood, you sure are looking good!



Um... Can I just replace a 15amp fuse switch thingy on my breaker box in my shop for a 20amp? I have flipped it several times and now completely blew the fuse.

My table saw is 13a. My shop heater is 13a. 15 gives me barely enough for the lights and heater.

I have 2 separate 15a fuse/switch things in my shop breaker box, just want to replace one to a 20amp and leave the other at 15.

But I'm not sure if that's ok to do or of it will cause too much power to something else.

My power wire running out the breaker box says 600 volt and awg 14... Some other crap is on the wire too but doesn't look important lol. Not sure if that's relevant or not though.
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Nope, unfortunately you can't. If the wiring is 14 gauge, then it's only rated for a 15 amp circuit. You'd have to run/replace the wiring with 12 gauge if you want to bump it up to 20 amps. Actually (up here at least) you're only allowed to run at 80 percent to maximum load, so you're really only allowed to load up a 15 amp circuit to 12.5 amps. Technically, both the saw and the heater should've been run on separate 15A circuits, independent of the lighting. Not sure about US code though. Slice should be around shortly to give you a better answer.
 
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That 80% deal is false and falls into other mathy stuff so you can run 15 at full 15, and 20 at 20 etc but Aiki is right about the wire size. If you over fuse your wire, then the wire becomes the fuse and that's bad...really bad. Firey burny bad. Yeah, they should have their own circuits but just turn one or the other off at a time when in use. Or if you have multiple circuits available move one or the other piece of equipment.
 
You can also turn the heater down from full and it will draw less amps, swap some bulbs to LED, etc. Never gonna get the saw and heater together on the same circuit tho. Prob heat and lights together then saw on the other since motor loads draw way more on start up, at 13a, its prob hitting around 50amp for a fraction of a second on start up.
 
Thanks for the, very informative, info fellas!

I will get another 15a to replace the blown one and keep the heater on it by itself.

When I run the table saw it's on the other 15, and I don't run anything at the same time. I'll just make sure to pay better attention what I'm hooking up into which outlets lol

Thanks again fellas!
 
WW, as you get time and money, and in extra circuits. My old work shop had only 1 circuit for everything. Lights, outlets, table saw, grinders, etc. You could only use the table saw or grinders during daylight hours, using light from the 3 windows by the table saw and work bench.

Before we built the new workshop with dedicated lines for everything, I had added a new breaker box and gradually added breakers and circuits, until I had a dedicated breaker for each major tool and work area PLUS a lights circuit so I could work at night. It took time, but it was worth it in the end.

Then the 80 y.o. building started leaning after a big storm (15 degrees out of plumb). It was going to cost as much to straighten it up and rebrace it as a new one. So we built a new one with a concrete floor, rather than the dirt and gravel in the old one. BIG upgrade. :D
 
Electrical... yuck :( I need to increase the size of my panel and re-run / split a whole bunch of rooms. Not to mention my garage so I can start using this wicked old craftsman ripsaw that a friends dad gave me. Whoever did the electrical in my house 35 years ago.... bleh.
 
worldwood said:
Thanks for the, very informative, info fellas!

I will get another 15a to replace the blown one and keep the heater on it by itself.

When I run the table saw it's on the other 15, and I don't run anything at the same time. I'll just make sure to pay better attention what I'm hooking up into which outlets lol

Thanks again fellas!
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Any time... It's about the only thing I know I'm good at lol so anyone here I'll help/advise all I can.
 
TBL said:
Electrical... yuck :( I need to increase the size of my panel and re-run / split a whole bunch of rooms. Not to mention my garage so I can start using this wicked old craftsman ripsaw that a friends dad gave me. Whoever did the electrical in my house 35 years ago.... bleh.
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Yeah...welcome to my nightmare!
 
Psyop said:
Here is my little project of the day... No before pic so I took a pic of the other. Mr. Wilcox was a WW2 vet a Naval Corpsman who served in the pacific theater. When I was a kid I used to go see him almost every night. He told me stories that a 13-15yo probably shouldn't hear. He also told he about fishing and trapping because that's all he did after WW2.
Anyways Dad bought his place when he had to leave and now I have a place very close on the same creek even. Long story short here is Mr. Wilcox trapping shovel and I wish he had taught me how to trap not just fish.
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Sandpaper, elbow grease, vinegar bath.

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I now have a very serviceable tool
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:thumbup: That is too cool.
 
NCSlice said:
Any time... It's about the only thing I know I'm good at lol so anyone here I'll help/advise all I can.
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Wanna hear something TRULY trippy? (pun intended when I finish the story you'll get it)

About 8 years ago I was changing a burnt outlet in one of the bedrooms at my parent's house. I go down to the basement and flip the breaker that is labeled to that room. Go back up to the 2nd floor and start removing the outlet. Get the first wire unhooked and my screwdriver slips and hits the two wires and pops. I jump slightly and go run downstairs (to make sure no one flipped the switch.) and there was a second breaker that was now flipped. I was confused but have heard of one outlet being on two circuits, although it was rare for me to hear of it. So I go back upstairs and get back to work removing the other wire, this time I get it removed and everything is fine and dandy. I get the first wire in, I am putting the second wire on and my screwdriver jumps again and connects the two wires and pops AGAIN! I run back down to the basement and check and now a 3rd circuit has flipped. I say "F this" and flip the main until I finish.

Guyon said:
Bam.

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Strips? Looks yummy!
 
Chameleonbear said:
Wanna hear something TRULY trippy? (pun intended when I finish the story you'll get it)

About 8 years ago I was changing a burnt outlet in one of the bedrooms at my parent's house. I go down to the basement and flip the breaker that is labeled to that room. Go back up to the 2nd floor and start removing the outlet. Get the first wire unhooked and my screwdriver slips and hits the two wires and pops. I jump slightly and go run downstairs (to make sure no one flipped the switch.) and there was a second breaker that was now flipped. I was confused but have heard of one outlet being on two circuits, although it was rare for me to hear of it. So I go back upstairs and get back to work removing the other wire, this time I get it removed and everything is fine and dandy. I get the first wire in, I am putting the second wire on and my screwdriver jumps again and connects the two wires and pops AGAIN! I run back down to the basement and check and now a 3rd circuit has flipped. I say "F this" and flip the main until I finish.



Strips? Looks yummy!
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Weird...sounds like bunch of neutrals were tied together. Common, esp in older homes.
 
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