So the Strider Warranty...

Quite true, and I must admit that my own G10 lineup has seen it's share of abuse with no marks at all--but in a hypothetical scenario, how might that be taken care of? Are there even affordable scale replacements?
 
Unbelievable. Like guys who buy Hummers and want them pristine, shining, smelling like new leather -- forever.

Even Chris Reeve makes his knives to be used. OK, Sebenzas with graphics or inlays are like custom Striders, a little bit extra cost for the glitz. But all of them are the same hardworking knives they were designed to be.

You want a Strider with the ultimate decorative pattern on it? Scratch it up, chip the edge, gouge the G-10. :D

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - WOW- What a Ride!!!"
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That's fair, I just want to know that unlike tiger striping, this can be dressed up affordably and efficiently.

Beautiful collection! I might be visiting Ann Arbor for a few weeks this summer--you might have to show me your gallery.

As per Esav, I think you misunderstand. I want the knife to be refurbished precisely SO I can use it with abandon. I'm not ashamed that I'm bothered by scratches, etc, and various other purely aesthetic imperfections. Knives are an art form, and it is my subjective interpretation of that art form that says scratches are undesireable. Scratches won't bother me if I know it's just getting cleaned up in a year anyway, and then I get to continue wrecking it.

If I buy a Strider, it'll be because (and almost only because) of a warranty like this.
 
OK, i am not on your side too, don´t mind this.;)

Scratches may come from various things, even Kydex can produces light ones on the blade. So, the only way would be a most scratch resistnant finish like a satin finish, wich is a constant scratching.

I would mind the waste of blade if it would send once or twice a year in to be cleaned. I mean, how is it done? Finishing is not painting. Painted means a load up with material. On blades you take away some. Yes, i am as nervously as you are because the waste is minor. But it would be a waste.

BTW, anyone can show how knives should look on own knives, but if someone took mine for this i wouldn ´t mind if he was the most glorious knife maker or least bastard. I think, i can tell one sucker form the other since sandpit in childhood.:thumbdn:
 
Artfully Martial did you forget this episode?

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403176

After Strider got the knife back they sent me an email stating that they could fix it easily but I'd have to pay the $15 because they said the knife looked used. I assured them it was brand new but they stuck to their guns and said it was used so I needed to pay shipping. (Mick later went so far as to say it looked like I dragged it behind my car which I understand to be an exaggeration but it's funny what he thinks of his own brand new knives.)
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I got a couple of decent replies before Mick replied alluding that I was a liar and that I was trying to pull a fast one for a new knife. I calmly restated that it was new and was basically told I was a liar again. (and no, the word liar never came up but it was fairly obvious what Mick's point was) I assume Mick then talked to the dealer I got it from and found out that I was indeed telling the truth about the whole thing and he apologized and offered to make it right but, at that point, I just wanted my money back.
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ended up losing money on the RC in the end because I never got back the Strider bag that I shipped the RC back to Strider in although I got a refund on the knife itself. (Shipped it in a bag so it wouldn't get more "Stridermarks" in shipping.) You live and learn I guess.
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Doesn't sound like any warranty process I'd want to be a part of.
 
Artfully Martial said:
That's fair, I just want to know that unlike tiger striping, this can be dressed up affordably and efficiently.
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LOL a dressed up Strider. I'm not sure they ever take off their construction boots.

Here's the thing with Strider finishes.

A satin finish, you mark up, you look at the blade, and see scratches. Black "tactical" finish? Same. Even blasted has the same results. Sure the maker can redo those ones fairly easily (usually), but then you have to mark up a "new" knife again. It will be new for a week a year, and marked up the rest.

But tiger stripes or other Strider patterns? The blade could be rusting and gouged and covered in huge ugly scratches, but at first look all you see is the stripes.

I hand my black SLCC to someone, and the response is "this thing is all scratched up"

I hand my RC to someone (even my BEATER DB) and the response is "hey what's with the camo stripes?"

Distraction and diversion my friends. The finishes are one of 3 reasons why I beat on them so badly. No one notices the scratches, myself included. (the other 2 are warranty and because i know they can take it)

The other patterns accomplish the same thing with varying results compared to the stripes. I've heard digicam scuffs kinda easily, but the grid holds up decently. Something like the razor wire would be similar to stripes, but again, custom only.
 
after a quick read of the posted article i looked at my brand new strider pt-like i said from the start the fit and finish for a 300 bucks piece is not good-and now i noticed i have a lock like the ones mentioned in the other post-straight cut on the ti part and a hard angle on the blade-bolth arent cut to the same angle like everyother framelock i have-
i wount be a repeat customer
 
Midget said:
depends on what you mean by "refinishing."

if you're talking about the tiger stripes, that's not gonna happen. the stripes are a result of black oxide buildup after heat treat.

from the strider FAQ:
"Will Strider redo the stripes on the blade if they are worn?
If you have the time and money, Strider will reproduce the stripes on your blade. Cost will be around $100 and the wait time will take 16-24 weeks. It is suggested that you just use the knife."
http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/WillStriderRedoStripes.shtml


if you're talking about the digicam, i'm pretty sure they'll refinish it, and it'll cost money. i don't know how much.



if you're talking about a straight, bead blast coat, it's FREE. and it looks damn fine IMO (i don't care much for stripes).


i send my user strider back to the shop 1-2x/year for a pro resharpening and reblasting, and it always comes back looking great.
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That was the old stripes (on the BG-42 blades and such) S30-V is used now and the stripes are done by first coating the blade black then bead blasting it back to silver leaving the black stripes. That is why the expense. The refinish requires total bead blast then black coat then freehand blast to get the stripe effect. At least that is how I understand it
 
Yeah, Mick's behavior on various issues is fairly burnt into my brain, and normally I don't give chances like this, but....we'll see how this turns out.
 
rosconey2 said:
after a quick read of the posted article i looked at my brand new strider pt-like i said from the start the fit and finish for a 300 bucks piece is not good-and now i noticed i have a lock like the ones mentioned in the other post-straight cut on the ti part and a hard angle on the blade-bolth arent cut to the same angle like everyother framelock i have-
i wount be a repeat customer
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What angle are you talking about? As for the angle of the lock you want a 90 degree angle on the liner so it engages the blade at a sharp angle. Think of it this way. Take two 2x4 bards and cut one at a slight angle but leave one at 90 degrees and push the ends together. It takes more force to get them to slip. now cut the other board at a matching angle and try again. They will slip very easily since there is no edge to bite on. If you are talking about the fact that only a corner of the lock touches th blade then that is because the titanium would be a bear to disengage if you have too much contact with the blade. Unless you have a really thin titanium liner like other knives.
 
How are Mick's customs? I can't really see any special featuers in his customs over the production. But, here's one I really like anyway.

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Maybe I should just save up a few more months and pick up a custom.
 
I hear Strider bashing only on this forum for some reason. Sure I don't like some production knives but if I am going to bash them for warranty problems like "he said it was scratched so it's not new" or something similar then I would post the email for proof. Any way all I have to say is "Show me the proof!" Any one can say he said. I have seen proof that Striders were replaced after being beat through wind shields with a "stupid stamp" put on the replacement so it will not be replaced again but then I would do the same or you would end up having some schmuck sending a knife back every week after trying to cut an engine block with it LOL.
 
I own two Striders. One is a a folder (AR) and the other is a "concealable" model (looks like the SA but is an older model no longer in production).

To be honest, I hardly use my AR. However, I can attest to the fact that it is a well designed, tough blade. I tend to carry my Emerson Commander around instead as it is a bid less bulky than the Strider. I just can't bring myself to sell it though. I expect that it will come in handy someday. My SA is my diving etc. utility knife. I've used it under some really nasty conditions (Deep under water, in the dark, and very cold conditions.) I couldn't really tell you if the handle is comfortable or not, but it stays in your grip pretty well (has that cord wrap handle).

These are knives - not lightsabres. They are well made and are really strong and reliable. Get one. Use it. Use it a lot. When it gets really beat up and needs a professional touch for resharpening, send it back in to SK. They'll fix it back up.

They make their knives to be used, and they particularly appreciate hearing about and seeing examples of their creations being applied in the methods for which they were intended. By the same token, they can appreciate the fact that some folks are purely collectors. They aren't going to treat you less well if that is where your interests lie.

My limited experience with Mick, Duane, and the rest of the SK consortium has been overwhelmingly positive. Seriously. They took the time to talk to me and figure out which knife would best suit my needs, and then sat around and shot the breeze with me for a good half hour - despite the fact that they were really busy. Mick can come off as abrasive. That's because if he is cool with you, then he is. But if he thinks you are talking trash to him or about him, he has no qualms about telling you to go crap in your hat. He'll even provide you with directions. He's not so customer service oriented that he follows the adage that "the customer is always right." And that rubs some people the wrong way. But I can summarize all this by saying that Strider Knives is an honorable company run by good guys who make excellent, reliable knives and stand behind their work 100%.
 
outlaw, just wander over to the badlands forums and see for yourself.
 
Hey, no matter what you try to tell me, that engine block had it coming.

I'll get the gravitator either tomorrow or...eventually. We'll see. Definitely going to be buying a few more Benchmades as gifts tomorrow in Waco anyway.
 
outlaw918692000 said:
What angle are you talking about? As for the angle of the lock you want a 90 degree angle on the liner so it engages the blade at a sharp angle. Think of it this way. Take two 2x4 bards and cut one at a slight angle but leave one at 90 degrees and push the ends together. It takes more force to get them to slip. now cut the other board at a matching angle and try again. They will slip very easily since there is no edge to bite on. If you are talking about the fact that only a corner of the lock touches th blade then that is because the titanium would be a bear to disengage if you have too much contact with the blade. Unless you have a really thin titanium liner like other knives.
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all the other tiframelocks i have -the ti lock and the blade are bolth angled- with this just a tiny little corner of the ti lock touch's the blade-http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403176&page=2
just like the one in the photo
 
DaveH said:
outlaw, just wander over to the badlands forums and see for yourself.
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Specifically here: http://www.badlandsforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5371&highlight=issues

I haven't bought any Striders since and sold a couple that I had too. I'm keeping some because after they are adjusted they are very nice knives. After the thread I point to above though I would be very worried if I ever had to send one of mine in for service.

BTW. This is what's in my pocket today:
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boy wish i would have seen that before i bought mine-guys is a total azzhole to the max -

and i dont think the pt is worth the money now that i have one-well the heat treat for the blade does look like the best ive got from a s30v blade -
 
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