Solid $20 knife?

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RX-79G said:
No one needs to make any special claims about the miracle quality of SRM products. But in the same thread we have one person loudly proclaiming that unsubstantiated rumors of the Sanrenmu/Byrd connection aren't fit to repeat, while someone else makes similarly unsubstantiated claims that everyone is much more comfortable with.

SRM has no brand panache, warranty, survivalist spokesmen or thrilling packaging. No designers to meditate about, no cool factory tours and no Sal G. like web presence. You'd think being a cheap, no-name alternative to other cheap name brand Chinese knives was some sort of major sin with the lengths people will go to make a product look bad, despite the fact that most everyone who owns one really likes them. Its like getting upset about buying a Huyndai.

I assure you, SRM is no threat to your hobby or whatever.
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Nah a Rat 1 or a budget Kershaw is a Hyundai.
Low end, direct from China knives are Mo peds

Although I seem to be mistaken about SRM products,

They seem to be Scooters with trade infringements.

Score.
 
Stabman said:
Sal posted this:

"SanRenMu is as knife manufacturer in China. They make some models for Spyderco.

High quality is a very broad subject. At this time there are no really "high quality" ( by my standards) steels made in China, so that would be in question. SanRenMu is trying to improve the quality of the steel they use, but they're not there yet. The many other "high quality" areas are a subject in itself and probably not relevant to the subject at hand.

SanRenMu makes none of the byrd models."

Here:

https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/vie...dbb4f&start=20

Took me less than 2 minutes to find this "hidden" answer...
Guess you didn't really want the actual answer, eh?
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So Sanrenmu makes standard line Spyderco models, rather than lower end Byrd models? And they made Benchmade, too?

That is devastating news.
 
RX-79G said:
So Sanrenmu makes standard line Spyderco models, rather than lower end Byrd models? And they made Benchmade, too?

That is devastating news.
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Like the Tenacious and related models.
Which they already say are made in China...

Is isn't devastating, because it isn't hidden.
Since it is not hidden, it is not dishonest, and people can decide to buy it or not as they see fit.
 
Etna said:
Quite some time already. SRM has more than a hundred products, and off the top of my head i only remembered seeing four or five of them using the axis lock.
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Oh, well I guess it's ok then if they only have 4 or 5 models with blatant patent theft.
 
Semantics aside op please skip 3cr knives all together. Top blades in this range are Byrd knives, opinel, mora, kabar dozier lockback, alox a few models, any Kershaw 8cr13mov that you can get in your range, Ontario rat and utilitac series. Some crkt like the Drifter. These by and large are the best of the budget models and are all very good users.
 
stabman said:
Like the Tenacious and related models.
Which they already say are made in China...

Is isn't devastating, because it isn't hidden.
Since it is not hidden, it is not dishonest, and people can decide to buy it or not as they see fit.
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You realize I'm not the one making a big deal out of the Spyderco/SRM connection. That would be Hackenslash. I don't require that sort of validation or denial for my $8 purchases.

I'm sure Hackenslash and whoever else who is invested appreciates your timely use of Search.
 
craytab said:
Look through all the low cost imports from kershawguy. Lots of options. This one is $25: http://kershawguy.com/products-page/low-priced-imported-items/chill-3410/

Ho much is piece of mind worth to buy from a reputable company that stands behind their product?
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Company aside, I get great peace of mind from being able to order through a reputable dealer, something that's essentially impossible with Enlan, SRM or Ganzo. If Kershawguy sells me a lemon I know damn well he'll make it right.

I'm firmly with the people telling you to buy a Chinese Kershaw or Byrd. Alternately, brew your coffee at home, smoke a few less cigarettes a day, walk somewhere instead of driving once a week, skip one fast food stop and you'll probably have enough to get a Rat 1, Cold Steel Finn Wolf or something like that (not saying you have any of the vices I listed, just examples that you probably won't remember what you spent the $10 difference on one week later.)
 
nick21 said:
Enlan EL-01
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I have one. It is a good knife for the price but for the cost of 2 fast food meals or a starbucks visit you can get a knife that is better and has a company that stands behind it. Peace of mind.
 
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craytab said:
I have one. It is a good knife for the price but for the cost of 2 fast food meals or a starbucks visit you can get a knife that is better and has a company that stands behind it. Piece of mind.
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I think you mean peace of mind

Piece of Mind is the Iron Maiden album :p
 
I've enjoyed the real conversation here guys I have my first Ganzo on the way and I have several Benchmades nib and used already so I wanted to try one. My design I bought is the G710 which I've heard they don't make anymore and I didn't know they weren't licensed by Benchmade so that's probably why I just wanted to try out the Rift style in a $15 version around my fire pit as opposed to my forum Rift. I certainly don't want to support piracy but I don't feel bad about buying my $15 knife it might last me through the spring or several years. I do wish there was a source where you can find out which American companies use which Chinese companies to make their cheaper stuff so you can buy with a bit more confidence.
 
Arick said:
I do wish there was a source where you can find out which American companies use which Chinese companies to make their cheaper stuff so you can buy with a bit more confidence.
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I work in the bicycle industry, where Chinese made carbon fiber frames are steadily replacing every other kind of production. I don't think there are "bad" manufacturers in China. The quality, supervision and materials come down to the price paid and choices of the company contracting. Enlan, Ganzo, Bee, SRM, SR, etc may all be have made knives that you like - or hate - from US companies. CNC machining and heat treating stainless steel with digital ovens is not magic. If your Chinese Spyderco sucks or your Chinese Kershaw is awesome, it is mainly because that was what was paid for.

Lumber Liquidators doesn't have formeldahide problems because of the Chinese. It's what they asked and paid for.


Anyway, announcing who makes your stuff is bad business. If everyone knows you use Bee, and Bee announces it is bankrupt or something, it just reflects on the parent company. So companies don't do that to themselves.
 
I posted a simple comment earlier, but now I have time to elaborate.
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I carry the utilitac 2 on dressier occasions or when I want to be refined. It comes with just standard black scales, but mine was smoother out of the box than any of my spydercos. It cuts really really well. Leather like it was paper, and I haven't even sharpened the factory edge. Stropped it on the leg of my jeans only.

Now next is a Kershaw brawler. Assisted open, and I beach the absolute hell out if it. It was the first decent knife I ever bought, and it gets used now for the hard tasks. It doesn't cut as well as the utilitac 2, but I would be comfortable stabbing through a car tire with it.

That's just My . 02.
Kershaw makes a great knife at a low cost. The utilitac 2 is more elegant and I love the gentle recurve. In the end, there are so many options, and I am sure you will love anything you get from a prominent company.
 
You guys that are incessantly bickering need to stop, many have already been warned over and over. That is past, if people cannot control their impulsivity for backhanded smarmy compliments and straight up pot stirring, then I'm going to help those people find a new place to hang out. I know some folks like to argue the "stupidity" merits of a topic rather than the primary topic, that won't work.
 
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