Some knive reviewsand thoughts of mine over the years (Busse and others)

Leopardprey, the EPA just called. You need to pick up all them names you dropped.
 
Well there are so many collectors, that no one really uses their busses, do they...lol..lol..lol

canis
Registered User Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Midland, TX, USA
Posts: 237

What my Battle Mistress can do!

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I have a fairly large tree in my front yard which was in dire need of trimming for the winter. I decided to forget a chainsaw or pruning blade and use my BM for the job.

The branches I trimmed ranged from 3-4 inch thick to small twigs. I spent 1 1/2 hours wacking away on the tree. The smaller branches fell in one swipe. Sometimes the blade whistled through so easily that I almost lost my balance! The larger branches of course took a few more chops but large chips of wood were flying with every swing. With each swing the blade bit deeply into the wood. I am simply amazed at how the edge held up through this torture test. It shows absolutely no sign of any use. The blade still shaves the same as before I started. The coating shows virtually no signs of scuffing. I would swing the knife into the limb and then torque it a little to help break it out. It really does act like a sharp pry bar. The blade has a very rigid feel to it while working. Even though it would flex slightly when I was really twisting on it.

The handle was comfortable as far as not feeling much vibration. The little "parrot's beak" at the end of the handle did tend to rub my pinkie a little, but it absolutely helped me to lock my grip in on the knife while chopping. After 1 1/2 hours of hard work, it did little more than work a very small callous near the outside of my pinkie near the middle joint. I felt no hand fatigue while using this knife. I would liken the correct way to swing this blade to the same way you should use a hammer - let the tool do the work. When I let my hand and arm relax and just let the blade fall smoothly onto the wood, it felt smooth as butter!

Well, I know that Cliff Stamp and Mike T. are going to be putting the Busse production knives to the test here soon. I am here to tell you that I had more fun using this tool than I can remember with a knife. I have absolute faith that this knife would outlast me before I could use it enough at one clip to dull it or damage it. I literally used it nonstop for 1 1/2 hours and it is still unfazed. I, on the other hand, need a shower and some clean clothes.

I have no doubts that the testing of these blades will substantiate my belief that this INFI steel stuff and Busse's method of manufacture is the future of knife making. I can hardly wait for more people to obtain a Busse knife so that they can see for themselves what us lucky few BM owners already know.

I stand humbly before my Batle Mistress a worn out individual.

Chris Canis
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However, here is a thread on Ranger288's favorite. I happen to really like these knives, but my experience differs from Rangers, and apparently so do others:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=511990&highlight=broke

here is some more hard usage of Busses. But no one really uses them.

tzinn1348
Basic Member Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: gladstone, MO, USA
Posts: 52

my first test of busse battle mistress

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I got my battle mistress today, and went out to the brush pile.

I chopped for an hour on seasoned oak limbs and seasoned hedge(osage orange).

Osage orange (also called bodark or bow d'arc is about the toughest dried wood we have in Missouri. It is tougher and harder than seasoned oak or hickory or anything else we have here.

The battle mistress performed great. After an hour of chopping thru 3 and 4" limbs, it would still pop hair using the section which was used to chop. I am seriously impressed with this infi steel.


Next I am going whittle and chop some seasoned oak 1x2 boards with my badger attack to check it out.

I'll let you know how it works.

Thomas Zinn
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Yes, some have had postive expereinces with their Busses and really liked them. Glad to see their knives worked out for them. Again, my experience with the Busse knives I had, I found them to not work as well as some other knives I had, whether for chopping, cutting or slicing. So I sold them off. If you like your Busses and they work good for that is great. Never said they would not chop at all or cut or slice at all, just that others I have used, IMHO, are better, and in some instances with MY EXPERIENCES, the Busses were poor performers compared to the others. To be honest I was disapointed, as I had liked the Busses and when I came to the conclusion that some of my other knives chopped better, or skinned, sliced or cut better, then I realized most of the Busses I had were not for me and so sold off. The other knives, from other brands I currently have, have proven very good performers for me. That Chris Reeve Skinner I have has got to be the best camp/skinning knife I have ever had. Andre's Mako folder is also a super design, very rugged, and a great skinning knife. And as stated, my HI Thick Bladed Khuks and LTC Thin Bladed Khuks have done all I have asked of them and performed very well in my opinions. Buy and use what you want, like and works for you. I know I will. Why is it so hard for some to accept that I sold off my Busses cause I did not like them or think they were the best? I think some are reading into my postings way too much! Just cause some buy a Busse and have nothing but praise for it, there will be others who buy the same and then compare it other knives they have and realize they like the others better or the others perform better. And Cobolt if you read my thread, I did not say all Busse owner were collectors, I said the majority are. Being that I owned and used Busses at one time myself, and was not just collecting, it would be hard for to say that all Busse owners are just collectors. But, as with Randalls and many other high end knives like Busse, I would say the majority of the owners buy them and do not use them that often or at all.
 
when ever my a$$ was in d grass, i never cut up vegetation, make shelter, etc... . if me or any team member did it would leave evidence that we were there! my job was to snoop and poop, then didi back for extraction. no bad guy being the wiser! sorry to say my knives only saw action in the rear wit d gear! just being in d military doesn't make one a high speed, low drag, mcgyver school graduate! 90% of the military are remf's (rear echelon mutha f@!&ers). sorry but i like my busse knives! i also like my ranger, kiku's,crk's, spydies, etc... . i respect your opinion, however my experiences are a bit different.
 
BillL said:
I didn't know you collect Busse knives too. Show us your collection.
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That's both of them.
 
Rule # 1: If you review Busse please make it positive unless you want a 1000 answers explaining why you were wrong:

Reasons to be wrong:
1. Traveling: nobody can be in more than 3 countries over the period of 4 years.
2. Military experience: no way, you mean soldiers don't use swords anymore. Liar, liar.
3. Liberal support: Angelina Jolie paid you, get out of here.
4. Hidden agenda: admit that your are trying to buy Busse shares once they are undervalued.
5. Cutting ability: if you couldn't chop with a mistress you missed cutting 101.
6. Atheist: you are undermining the basis of Western civilisation by destroying the one and only Knife Church, when the time comes and our alien cousins come to collect us you will be left behind with John Travolta.

Frankly, to most of the Busse defenders: digging up old threads and trying to discredit a poster is a sign of bad form. I enjoyed his review and I own a couple of Rats and Dogs (no Hogs, too expensive and the design in most cases doesn't do it for me) and I don't feel attacked. Just relax, they are just knives for heavens sake.
 
Opinions Do vary and that's a good thing.

There are more Busse knives that I do not like than ones that I do.

But, The ones that I do like, I really like.

Same for so called Automatic knives, or kitchen knives.

I vote with my Wallet.

I keep the ones I like and sell the ones I do not, but it has gotten to where I pretty much have enough knives so I no longer buy very many.

I also tend to buy several to many of the ones that I like and give them as Gifts.

Busse knives, Severtec, Murray Carter, Lone Wolf, Benchmade, and yes, many many Cold Steel, Bushmen and throwers, these are all knives that I buy and give as gifts, but just a few models from each maker.

Look at my Avatar, I am a Busse kind of guy, Still plenty of Busse knives that I have no use for.

So, for those who take great offence to this thread, Relax, opinions vary, Buy and use what you like and that you find pleasing.
 
bodhi_ said:
Rule # 1: If you review Busse please make it positive unless you want a 1000 answers explaining why you were wrong:

Reasons to be wrong:
1. Traveling: nobody can be in more than 3 countries over the period of 4 years.
2. Military experience: no way, you mean soldiers don't use swords anymore. Liar, liar.
3. Liberal support: Angelina Jolie paid you, get out of here.
4. Hidden agenda: admit that your are trying to buy Busse shares once they are undervalued.
5. Cutting ability: if you couldn't chop with a mistress you missed cutting 101.
6. Atheist: you are undermining the basis of Western civilisation by destroying the one and only Knife Church, when the time comes and our alien cousins come to collect us you will be left behind with John Travolta.

Frankly, to most of the Busse defenders: digging up old threads and trying to discredit a poster is a sign of bad form. I enjoyed his review and I own a couple of Rats and Dogs (no Hogs, too expensive and the design in most cases doesn't do it for me) and I don't feel attacked. Just relax, they are just knives for heavens sake.
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You mean they don't use swords any more in Dark Ops? :confused: lol lol lol :p:p

Why did that come up anyway? Just in case that was in response to me saying the AK would be a nice back up when you run out of bullets... That is an option I realistcally have as a civilian. Is it remarkable to believe that there are still people who take the time to train, for years, with such a primative tool? Or are people who train in arts such as FMA now designated as mall ninjas? If that comment has nothing to do with my earlier post then please disregard this part.

Now a pattern I see in these types of threads goes something like this.

(1) Someone makes a negative comment about a brand of knife. And, in the case of Busse knives, they may even make negative comments about those who buy, collect, and use them. And this is perfectly okay. It is freedom of speech.

(2) Then comes along a few people to disagree with some statements that were presented as facts. And then they even go so far as to disagree with negative comments that may very well be directed at them. (CULT) But this is not okay. It is not okay to disagree nor try to point out that negative claims may be false. Because now they have gone off the deep end.

(3) Then those making the original negative comments about the brand and persons who support brand come back with a, "Why can't I have my opinion about knives and those who collect them? Why should you be free to say something in response. Can't you guys just let me call you a cult, and a bunch of backyard wood choppers who have no real world experience and leave it at that. Because if you respond, like I am, you are thin skinned and again further show your cultish mentality.
Just let me make my comments and do not disagree.

(4) And so it goes on....

This is rediculous. Yeah, there were some insults, direct or indirect, on this and other threads like it that should just plain stop. IMO. But please, if you are going to say a knife sucks and can not chop or skin well expect others to give a response. And if you refer to a close community as being "cultish" then expect some sort of reaction. And if you say that you have real experience with knives do to military experience and those back yard wood choppers have no idea, again, expect a response. :D

Here is just a thought, if you want to keep things civil and on topic it is a good idea to avoid the types of issues mentioned above. But if that is where you want to take it then please do not complain when you get reactions. Pretty simple.

There. I have said my peace. No hard feelings on my end. Perhaps we could all get back to discussing the "knives" in question, and any others that pop up. It would be nice. :):thumbup:
 
I really hate the 'opinion presented as fact' internet mantra, no matter the subject. It's the reader's fault if they can't tell the difference.
 
leopardprey: Sorry to go off topic real quick but is Angelina as hot in person as she is on the big screen? :D

Now back to knives. I agree with you on the Beckers. No I have not used one yet but have heard excellent things about them. In fact many Busse fanatics speak highly of them. Great price, well not with the current "discontinued" status. But from what I understand they are going to be produced again. I have been dying to try a Becker Necker and a Becker Brute.
 
Tyrkon, I never said Busse Knives Suck, and I never said Backwood choppers have no worthy commments, reviews or experience compared to me or others. People read that into my post. And come on you cannot deny that the BUsse forums is kind of cultish. The forum it self proves that, with all the Hog Wisdom, Hog terminology, extreme loyalty to their Busse knives, Hogisms, Hog Heirarchy, inside jokes, fanatical collecting (not that fanatically collecting is a bad thing if you got the $$$$ : ), instantly jumping on someone who disagrees or leaves the group etc. Yeah, you are right, it does bring about a response! Some do not like it when their sacred to them community seems to be assualted upon or a material object they place so much joy and importance on is refuted. Did not say the Busse Cult was bad, any worse than those group of people who live and breathe Star Trek or any other modern pop culture or material item that has cult like following. It is just a fanatatical group of collectors who so love their Busse knives and their lives revolve around the Busse community and their knives. Nothing wrong with that, it is there hobby and friends. Just one I am not really interested in. And again, there is NO AGENDA or somehow I am bitter and jeolous of the Busse Forum or knives or whatever. Just my thought, opinions, reviews and expereinces! Ok, lets talk just knives, travel, watches, and firearms - my hobbies and passions!
 
And hey, if you do not like my post or comments or they really upset someone, they can always use the "Ignore" function on my user name.
 
leopardprey said:
And hey, if you do not like my post or comments or they really upset someone, they can always use the "Ignore" function on my user name.
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Fair enough leopardprey.

So regarding the khuks... The handles look uncomfortable to me. But they must not be due to their extreme popularity. I can just bet their forward balance make them superb choppers. This is one of the reasons I really like the Scrap Yard Dog Father. Very forward heavy. Have you tried Khuks with more modern handles or are the original roundish ones the best in your opinion? HI is calling to me for a khuk.
 
Have tried with more modern handles as well. The CS LTC khuk rubber handle is very comfortable to me. HI did a interesting thing, in that most Khuks made and sold in Nepal or India had shorter 4 - 4.5 inch handles. A little small for me, but still fit nice. ( I have a pretty good collection of them, as there is a really nice Store called the Ghurka House in Kathmandu that sold all shapes and sizes of Khuks. Cost around $5 - $15 for each one. Usually brought back a dozen or so on each of my trips to Nepal to give out as gifts). Anyway HI made the Handles much larger and also rounded of the inside bottom part. Find them very comfortable to me to use. Don't care much for the traditional sheaths though, and would like to get most of my Khuks a Kydex or Leather Sheath. The CS LTC comes with a pretty nice leather sheath. AS I stated before, I am really thinking of Ryan Wilson to make me a good Khuk. A place called Mineral Mountain Hatchet Works use to make some nice Khuks as well. Have to do a search and see if they are still around. As for getting a good Khuk, many on the HI forum will tell you to get a Ang Khola, but in my opinion, go with the Classic WWII design. THere is some magic with a Khuk to me, due to my travels and working with the Gurkhas and all the history behind the blades. Same thing with Randalls. History and tradition. (plus nice thing about HI Khuks, you are actually helping to support several poor Nepali families with a job and income and Nepal is one of the poorest countries I have ever lived. The average per year salary is around $400 per year!)
 
Tyr, did you get my email? Not sure if this system is working right and can not find a way on this forum to see record of emails sent.
 
Tyr, As for your comment about those training with ancient weapons. I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, you may never use them or carry them, but it develops increased coordination, reflexes, fitness, speed and preserves an ancient art form. Plus doing forms or katas (or whatever your art calls them) can be very meditative. I practice a art that uses two smaller swords in conjunction with each other and also a long poled weapon. Get much enjoyment out of practicing and teaching this art. Now, am I going to walk around carrying those sword with me? No. But the combative skills of those swords, or a long sword or a long pole can be transferred to other weapons at hand for self defense, such as a pool cue, hiking staff, umbrella or a broken bottle, folding knife, small stick, pipe, etc...
 
leopardprey said:
Tyr, As for your comment about those training with ancient weapons. I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, you may never use them or carry them, but it develops increased coordination, reflexes, fitness, speed and preserves an ancient art form. Plus doing forms or katas (or whatever your art calls them) can be very meditative. I practice a art that uses two smaller swords in conjunction with each other and also a long poled weapon. Get much enjoyment out of practicing and teaching this art. Now, am I going to walk around carrying those sword with me? No. But the combative skills of those swords, or a long sword or a long pole can be transferred to other weapons at hand for self defense, such as a pool cue, hiking staff, umbrella or a broken bottle, folding knife, small stick, pipe, etc...
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Good points. Having been a student and teacher in the FMA for over 15 years has really helped out with many of the things you mentioned. Not just katas or flows but also full contact stick fighting matches similar to what the Dog Brothers (awesome group) do. It's kept me in shape, humble, relaxed at times, and just good fun.

The AK wouldn't be my first weapon to grab for defending my family here in Los Angeles, or any where for that matter. That's what my Glock 21 is for. And shopping for a good shotgun currently. :D But the AK has served me well as what I refer to as a "survival sword". I have split logs, prepaired camp fires, pried with, cleared, etc... with it. It really seems utilitarian if "weight" is not an issue. So I not only use it to maintain skills and relax but it actually serves me prety well. It's not for every one. But I like it. It feels right.
 
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