Some master kamis make guns!

Bill Martino

Bill Martino

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There's an area north of Pokhara (mentioned in thread called "Pokhara sunrise") which falls between two major trails. This area is seldom visited by tourists or any sort of government workers because of its isolation. In this area live three or four master kamis who make very good shotguns and pistols.

I know this is hard to believe but it is true. These guys bring in steel pipe from India for barrels and then forge all the rest of the parts for the gun. The guns they make are not beautiful but they are certainly functional and ,amazingly, shoot pretty straight.

It is a high profit item for the kamis because guns in Nepal are illegal without government permit and the permits are very hard to obtain. These guns are sold to people looking for defense against marauding Maoists and to hunters who shoot game for meat -- some of it shot illegally I must admit. I have wanted to bring one of these kami produced guns back to the US but it's impossible. I'd be busted and jailed by Nepal customs.

Anyway, it's another good example of what a skilled and adventurous master kami can do.

Uncle Bill
 
Bill,

Maybe you can "Johnny Cash" one into the country...

you know, "One Piece at a Time..."

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Hi Uncle Bill

In a few books I have read about the British in India report that the British did not want their firearms falling into the hands of the people. The firearms would filter to the local blacksmiths and they would rebuild the gun. Apparently, they were able to copy Lee Metfords.

Will
 
You could be right, CD. I might be okay if I took everything but the barrel. Why didn't I think of that!

Thanks, Will. Your post makes my story seem a bit more credible.

Uncle Bill
 
Homemade guns are nothing new. I have an article around here showing some ofthe confiscated guns from South Africa, one was a revolver that fired both .303 Enfield and .308 Winchester...

In Fact...about 20% of the guns confiscated by the Washington DC police dept are homemade, and it is ALOT easier here since we have ready access to machineshops and such...

What all this proves is that, no matter what, you can't get rid of guns...

Gotta love them Kamis though...making guns without the aide of a machine shop would be something to see...think we can get a video Uncle?

YeK

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Hi Yek:

I'd love to have such a video but I don't think the kamis would allow it since they are "bootlegging" guns. I might be able to dig up a few pix of some of the finished products, though.

Uncle Bill
 
Actually - A friend of mine from Pakistan told me about homemade guns.

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Jay, look back a ways in these threads and there was quite a bit about guns being made in Pakistan. The town itself alludes me, but it's on the Afghan border and produces everything from Remington o/u deringers to AKMs, to Oerlikon twin cannon. And they make all of this in huts.

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JP
 
Thanks John, I don't remember the name of the town either, but have read stories about it. I hope that Pakistan is a very long way ahead of Nepal armament wise. I'd hate to think of Uncle Bill's kamis glowing in the dark.
 
Pakistani guns? If they are anything like the pakistani knives, make sure you wear the bomb squad outfit.

A kami making a gun. Now that would be a sight. To bad they cannot be exported.
 
Could be wrong here, but that Pakistani town is probably Peshawar, the capital of the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) which borders Afghanistan. History-buffs will know that this is the same frontier province which the Gurkhas, among others spent generations "policing" during the days of the British colonial rule.

From what I understand, Peshawar always had a fairly well-known reputation as a gun-bazaar, which was given a big boost during the Soviet-involvement-in-Afghanistan years. Word around the region was that you could get practically any kind of firearms there - from a sidearm to a tank, with all makes of AK (the gun, not the khukuri) in between! Of course, for a tank you'd have a bit of waiting period until the boys in the field found a suitable one on the other side of the border and relieved it of its occupants!

I remember an officer from Dad's Gurkha Regiment who'd been loaned to the Afghan government of that time as an "advisor", seems during his time there, he managed to slip into Peshawar and pick up a local made AKM for himself.

As for home-made guns in Nepal and the region, yup! there are tons of them being churned out all over the continent. In places like Nepal and the Himamlayan region they're mostly used for hunting and a bit of home-defense, but increasingly today, and especially in other troubled parts of the region, they find themselves in the hands of your friendly local revolutionary/terrorist!

- Sonam
 
In a town near the Afgan border,AK`s were made with no more technology than the kami`s have.When one was finished the smith would take it outside and rip off a mag.,serving the purpose of test fire and an ad campaign.

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Peshawar is the name. And ( God am I getting cynical after yesterday's events in Colorado, and since learning OJ probably used a SAK - the knife with THE *single*most*benevolent* image* ) I also remember the operative phrase regarding homemade guns ( sometimes reality really turns my stomach ): "Your first gun only has to be good enough to get you your second gun." Pardon my "bile" attitude, I just sent my autistic son off to high school before this post.
 
Rusty, I don't know what's happened. When I was 16 all I could think about was fast cars, beautiful girls and sports. Killing my classmates at random was the farthest thing from my mind.

What has happened?

Uncle Bill
 
Rusty,the OSS produced a couple of million .45 ACP single shots with that very idea in mind.They were called the liberator,dropped with a few rds. of ammo and oddly enough a cleaning rod in the kit.It also served as an ejector but,you shouldn`t need it.Your targets have better weapons.
 
And if I should find one today, it would be illegal to buy or sell ( maybe even own ) until a serial # was properly affixed probably ruining a good part of it's value, and costing a few thousand in legal fees to comply without getting arrested, if BATF didn't just destroy it. Man I am in a sour mood today, shutting down to go to the doctor to talk about quitting smoking. Other than the smoke coming out my ears ( Can we all spell hyperbole? )
 
Keeping legal is a major consideration here, Nepal, and everywhere.

Good luck with the stop smoking effort. I can't do it so I'll wish you do better than me.

Uncle Bill
 
The pistol is sterile.The cost was perhaps a dollar?Many firearms have been sold without Mod.No`s.or Ser.No`s.Good luck on finding them.ATF dosn`t even bother to run through NCIC guns made before 10 years ago.It doesn`t pay.It seldom yealds a trail on more than 10 year old guns.There is a point but,don`t take it to the bank if your gun is stolen.Your chances of NCIC finding it are close to zero.Needless to say,the value to LE is the same.This idea of tracing is pie in the sky.
 
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