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Something I've been working on, size comparison

Discussion in 'Busse Combat Knives' started by n850gt, May 17, 2018.

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  1. May 17, 2018 #1
    n850gt

    n850gt Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Busse Swords.png

    Busse Long Butaniku, Short Butaniku, AK47, Gladius, HNWS, FMV14 and FMV8.

    Folks here have been asking how the FMV8 and FMV14 compare to other swords, so here is a rough example.

    These are drawn from pictures that have varying degrees of foreshortening and perspective skew. Using blade width numbers, blade length and overall length helps, but there is still error and lots of imprecision. Therefore, the lines aren't perfect orthographic projections. They're as close as I can get.

    For my own purposes (and as a distraction from Grad School), I've been compiling Busse knives and swords as an identification guide because let's be honest, there are a plethora of models and I usually have no idea what I'm looking at. When I find a pic of something I haven't seen, I save it to later compile as 2D line work in my CAD software. I have about 50 drawn with probably a hundred or more remaining.

    So anyway, here's an informational view of where the FMV14 lines up.
     
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  2. May 17, 2018 #2
    Will York

    Will York Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    That’s amazing—thank you!:thumbsup:
     
  3. May 17, 2018 #3
    Leonardo63

    Leonardo63 Gold Member Gold Member

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    That is really cool! That perspective answers a lot of questions.
    One thing that sticks out to me right off is the point comparison between the FM14 and the Gladius - I'm not sure of the right term, with bullets it's called the "ogive" the geometry of the curving transition from straight edge to the point - the FM14 has a much more pointy profile- I really dig that a lot!
     
  4. May 17, 2018 #4
    zombieassassin

    zombieassassin Gold Member Gold Member

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    I have a Short Butaniku.....
    Your pic makes me yearn for a Long one.
    Thank you.
     
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  5. May 17, 2018 #5
    tokerblue

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    That's awesome!

    I'm not sure if I'm the only one interested in this kind of comparison, but I would love to see the blades lined up at where the hilt starts.
     
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  6. May 17, 2018 #6
    Will York

    Will York Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Nice analogy—FM14’s long ogive would have a higher ballistic coefficient.:thumbsup::D

    In that vein, the Hognose has almost a “meplat”.:eek:;)
     
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  7. May 17, 2018 #7
    Cheesehead_Slasher

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    Nice work!
     
  8. May 17, 2018 #8
    honorearth

    honorearth Gold Member Gold Member

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    Thanks for the visual. Looks great
     
  9. May 17, 2018 #9
    SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

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    Very cool! :cool: :thumbsup: Shows just what a beast the Hognose really is! :eek:

    What CAD software are you using?
     
  10. May 17, 2018 #10
    n850gt

    n850gt Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Thanks all!

    I’m using Rhino 6 for line work, Illustrator to adjust line weights and add color fills.
     
  11. May 17, 2018 #11
    SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

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    Cool, that's one I'm not familiar with.
     
  12. May 17, 2018 #12
    Murman

    Murman

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    Copy of IMG_20180326_024108.jpg One thing you don't realize about the gladius until you hold it, you can grip at the pummel for added reach. Most people only consider blade length. it's formidable and a good bit longer than the fmv14 when you consider that . Same for AK 47.
     
  13. May 18, 2018 #13
    unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

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    I have an Ak47 and now want the short butaniku!
     
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  14. May 18, 2018 #14
    nydude

    nydude Gold Member Gold Member

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    very cool.
     
  15. May 18, 2018 #15
    xxwarderxx

    xxwarderxx Gold Member Gold Member

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    This is some really good stuff. Well done and thank for sharing.

    FMV14 looks promising as an addition to a Gladius.

    I’m really liking how the handle on the FMV8 seems to be shaping up. It appears to have a handle sized right for a dagger.

    This makes me yearn for a short butaniku.
     
  16. May 18, 2018 #16
    clampdaddy

    clampdaddy Gold Member Gold Member

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    Same here.
     
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  17. May 18, 2018 #17
    Ryker

    Ryker Gold Member Gold Member

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    Excellent work, thank you. These kinds of pictures help me a lot, especially if I actually have one of the blades pictured.

    I would like this too. After looking at it more closely, I realized that the blade length of the AK-47 is closer to the Short Butaniku than I thought.
     
  18. May 18, 2018 #18
    BlackKnight86

    BlackKnight86 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Wow! That is a wonderful, useful graphic!

    Nice job; and thanks so much for doing it!
     
  19. May 18, 2018 #19
    BlackKnight86

    BlackKnight86 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I hope you don't mind, N850GT; but I did a quickie in Paint....just selected and scooted the images over to line up the talon holes:

    Busse Swords-edit.png
     
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  20. May 18, 2018 #20
    Daniel Halcomb

    Daniel Halcomb Gold Member Gold Member

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    This is fantastic! I've searched for something like this before on multiple occasions, but had given it up as a lost cause.
    Thank you for making this, I'm saving it to show people.
    If you ever make any more comparisons, please post them.

    ... also, if you ever feel like nicely arranging all 50+ drawings you've made into something that resembles a poster, that could be really cool. Just a thought.:thumbsup:
     
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