SPOILER ALERT!! Official 'The Walking Dead' TWD Season 7 Discussion Thread

clampdaddy said:
Yeah. Just seemed like it wasn't something new to them. Like they've been feeding them walker fed pigs for a while. Maybe an accumulative affect?
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Yeah it definitely didn't seem knew to them. Good point. Wonder if they have killed any of them yet or if the plan is a massive fail. Or worse, Negan knows about it and is just dealing with Ricks group first before he goes and spanks the Kingdom
 
ExtraBaconPlease said:
Yeah it definitely didn't seem knew to them. Good point. Wonder if they have killed any of them yet or if the plan is a massive fail. Or worse, Negan knows about it and is just dealing with Ricks group first before he goes and spanks the Kingdom
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I wonder if Daryl will end up eating any of the walker pork.
 
Both Dixon boys ending up as walkers. I wonder who is gonna repeatedly stab Daryl in the face like he did to poor ol' Merle.
 
Thats what I'm wondering too.. Is the meat now contaminated.... I mean they touched on it in previous season with the cannibals...but they died from other causes before we could see the effects of the infected food ingestion.
I know I personally wouldn't want to risk it. Maybe Ezekiel has already done this experiment and knows the effects and thats why he's doing it.
 
ShepardCC said:
Thats what I'm wondering too.. Is the meat now contaminated.... I mean they touched on it in previous season with the cannibals...but they died from other causes before we could see the effects of the infected food ingestion.
I know I personally wouldn't want to risk it. Maybe Ezekiel has already done this experiment and knows the effects and thats why he's doing it.
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That's what I'm thinking. Remember back in season one when Daryl had shot a deer and a walker was eating it? He wanted to trim out the chewed up part but Shane said it wasn't worth the risk. Maybe a tie back to that?
 
Everybody who dies turns zombie that means that they all carry the germ already.
Ingesting infected pig meat should be fine. Of course if the germ load passes a threshold a zombie state might be induced without prior death or injuries. But would those germs survive a human digestive system and be able to enter the blood stream? Not many known germs are capable of that and from what we've seen even inhaling the germs (blood splashes in the face) is fine and many people sure got a few droplets in their mouth and lived on. So far only death or transmission from infected into ones own bloodstream seems to start zombiefication.
 
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Another thing. We didn't get to see the slaughter of the hogs. Did they actually survive eating the walker meat? Hog parts are often used in human surgeries because of how similar/compatible they are to human parts. Was cutting their throats enough to "kill" them or did it require a bullet to the brain? Could Negan's crew be dining on what are essentially four legged walkers?
 
Jens Schuetz said:
Everybody who dies turns zombie that means that they all carry the germ already.
Ingesting infected pig meat should be fine. Of course if the germ load passes a threshold a zombie state might be induced without prior death or injuries. But would those germs survive a human digestive system and be able to enter the blood stream? Not many know of germs are capable of that and from what we've seen even inhaling the germs (blood splashes in the face) is fine and many people sure got a few droplets in their mouth and lived on. So far only death or transmission from infected into ones own bloodstream seems to start zombiefication.
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Yes, they all carry it but the infection from the bite gets them. Could ingestion cause an internal infection? Not having a tough outer skin layer for protection could be the difference. How temperature sensitive is the virus? You can play with uncooked chicken all day but it isn't a good idea to eat it. We really don't know because everyone that has eaten infected meat so far has died by other means. I can't wait to see how this one plays out.
 
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clampdaddy said:
Yes, they all carry it but the infection from the bite gets them. Could ingestion cause an internal infection? Not having a tough outer skin layer for protection could be the difference. How temperature sensitive is the virus? You can play with uncooked chicken all day but it isn't a good idea to eat it. We really don't know because everyone that has eaten infected meat so far has died by other means. I can't wait to see how this one plays out.
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Yep the bite. That's what was included in my "transmission into ones bloodstream".
Too bad all the scientists seem to be gone and nobody is trying to make much sense of things or even find a solution.
I'm also curious how it turns out but maybe they'll die again before anything can develop.
 
Jens Schuetz said:
Everybody who dies turns zombie that means that they all carry the germ already.
Ingesting infected pig meat should be fine. Of course if the germ load passes a threshold a zombie state might be induced without prior death or injuries. But would those germs survive a human digestive system and be able to enter the blood stream? Not many known germs are capable of that and from what we've seen even inhaling the germs (blood splashes in the face) is fine and many people sure got a few droplets in their mouth and lived on. So far only death or transmission from infected into ones own bloodstream seems to start zombiefication.
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Nailed it. I was going to touch on this too. And even if it could happen through ingestion...the pigs didn't have enough time from eating to being killed to have properly digested everything.
Your stomach is just for breaking down the food. It doesn't actually absorb the nutrients. Your intestines are where your body absorbs all the nutrients from the broken down contents of the food
 
Just did a quick check and apparently pigs have an extremely fast digestion period. Only four hours.
 
Well we haven't seen infected animals yet...so maybe they are immune.

Furthermore. This will end the discussion. Jenner from the CDC said we are all infected. We all carry the virus. So it doesn't matter how we die, we'll all turn and become one of them.
The cannibals from terminus have been eating people for a long long time. Months for sure. Maybe a year. So it hasn't turned them into a walker just because they ate infected meat.

Boom!!!

End of argument ;)
 
ShepardCC said:
Well we haven't seen infected animals yet...so maybe they are immune.

Furthermore. This will end the discussion. Jenner from the CDC said we are all infected. We all carry the virus. So it doesn't matter how we die, we'll all turn and become one of them.
The cannibals from terminus have been eating people for a long long time. Months for sure. Maybe a year. So it hasn't turned them into a walker just because they ate infected meat.

Boom!!!

End of argument ;)
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ShepardCC said:
Well we haven't seen infected animals yet...so maybe they are immune.

Furthermore. This will end the discussion. Jenner from the CDC said we are all infected. We all carry the virus. So it doesn't matter how we die, we'll all turn and become one of them.
The cannibals from terminus have been eating people for a long long time. Months for sure. Maybe a year. So it hasn't turned them into a walker just because they ate infected meat.

Boom!!!

End of argument ;)
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But there has to be a reason why every scratch or bite from a walker is a death sentance but if you get shot (Carl, Rick) or cut (T Dog, Hershel), antibiotics can still save your life.
 
clampdaddy said:
But there has to be a reason why every scratch or bite from a walker is a death sentance but if you get shot (Carl, Rick) or cut (T Dog, Hershel), antibiotics can still save your life.
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I think the distinction is that its an infected walker biting you. I don't think we have actually seen someone scratched and turned. Maybe the scratching is just a precaution and people are like kill them.

However getting shot or cut like rick and carl and tdog(horrible and stupid name...I cringe every time they stay that stupid name Tdog). Those are wounds that happened before and after the Apocalypse that still required antibiotics to stay away normal infection and inflammation.

Antibiotics are used to fight against bacteria, fungi, parasites (foreign material that has entered the wounds). Antibiotics are useless against viruses. The walking dead have a virus. Therefore the Antibiotics are not used to fight becoming a walker.
 
One of the prisoners got scratched but it was from a piece of bloody broken bone and they killed him before he got sick. I just remember Morgan asking Rick if he'd been bitten or scratched so I'm just going off that that maybe this was something they figured out while Rick was in a coma. But why would the virus from a walker cause an infection and loping off a leg not? The living already have that virus inside them so an open wound would have the virus in it regardless. There has to be something about that virus coming from the dead. Special incubation events needed for it to really bloom? Could the lack of oxegenated blood really piss it off and cause it to mutate into something that it isn't when it's inside of the living? Lots of unknowns to write off anything.
 
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