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I'd love to see a large, four inch Lum Chinese with one canvas Micarta scale and one titanium frame lock scale with a VG10 blade.
 
smcfalls13 said:
To convert the Lum Chinese into a Titanium framelock would have required a complete reengineering and retooling. It wouldn't be something that could have been finished in a few months. A Ti framelock, if it was started not, MIGHT be ready for production in two years. MAYBE.

It's not something that can be thrown together quickly, that's why the Sprint Run is using the same design as the original, to keep you guys quiet;)

I don't think it takes two years for Chax to convert a liner lock to frame lock.
 
That's the advantage of having one craftsman working on one knife at a time. Designing and tooling up for production leaves no room for correction in mid-run. It might be different if they already had a similar framelock model they could modify.
 
Doesn't Bob Lum make framelock versions of the knife? Honestly, I don't see where the difficulty lies. It doesn't seem like the blade would have to be cut differently, and the opposite scale and hardware don't need to change. All that need be done is get the lockbar cut the right length. Isn't one of the advantages of a framelock the extreme simplicity? And if they are cut by laser or water jet, can't you just adjust a couple of measurements for the pattern and get going? I just don't see where 2 years comes from, maybe 6 months.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this is how I see it. Spyderco is much larger than either CRK or Bob Lum. For them, re-tooling of a knife is a quicker and less costly process. Spyderco, besides having a very extensive (and therefore lengthy) research and development process, also has the issue of multiple factories to sort out. It just seems like there size combined with other factors make them slower to the table when it comes to totally new knives.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this is how I see it. Spyderco is much larger than either CRK or Bob Lum. For them, re-tooling of a knife is a quicker and less costly process. Spyderco, besides having a very extensive (and therefore lengthy) research and development process, also has the issue of multiple factories to sort out. It just seems like there size combined with other factors make them slower to the table when it comes to totally new knives.

EDIT: Yea, um, I think I got a little click happy when posting this, so this duplicate doesn't really need to be here:o Can anyone point to the delete button at this forum.
 
I think it's also a matter of Spyderco having too many projects and new designs coming out. Other companies have 1 or 2 new ones come out in a year. This year how many are spyderco coming out with? Plus spyderco must be the only maker that takes in input from you and I. Maybe one too many.
 
I have been asking for a high end Spyderco ti framelock for a long time.I don't think it will ever happen.
 
We have tried in the pat to get Chris interested in a collaboration, but with no luck. Maybe some time in the future?

sal
 
I don't understand, is the framelock patented by CRK ? I see Buck and others making framelocks. Why can't you just make your own, Sal ? The new Lum chinese should have been a framelock in titanium! I don't believe it's esthetics as Bob Lum makes his in a framelock.
 
How about modifying the blade shape of the Volpe, no dished out top edge, maybe beveled, like the calypso?

It looks like it is flat ground in the picture I saw, but I could be mistaken.

It is a stainless steel framelock, 3.13" blade in n690 stainless.

I have never heard of this steel, is it a high end steel, or middle-of-the-road? I would pay a premuim for ZDP-198.

I would lighten the handle with titanium, or drill strategically placed holes/cutouts, like the R2 or Mayo-ish round holes (licenced of course).

With all the screwed together models, offer the same blades shapes (no re-tooling) in different levels of cost - zdp189, for high end/high price, a vg10 for mid-level price, and a H1 for a rust proof option?
 
uncleknife said:
It is a stainless steel framelock, 3.13" blade in n690 stainless.

I have never heard of this steel, is it a high end steel, or middle-of-the-road?
I believe N690 is of Austrian manufacture. It is good steel, used in the Extrema Ratio line and in the Benchmade Monochrome (which was designed by an Austrian :)).
 
Who needs CR...just put a titanium handle on the Pacific Salt, all screw construction, and you would have a knife better than the Sebenza IMO.
 
I would like to see Spyderco come out with a frame lock. I've been working on one that I've never told anyone about. One day I may submit it to them but for the time being its just hiding in my shop.

Wanting to get Chris Reeves' blessing on a frame lock just goes to show you how honorable Sal is in his business practices. (unlike some other owners out there of otherwise popular production knives.)

STR
 
Well, to each their own.
But I've had several frame-lock folders, and I will choose a lock-back over a frame-lock any day of the week (all other things being equal).
 
allenC said:
I will choose a lock-back over a frame-lock any day of the weak (all other things being equal).

Same here.

I would really love to see a lock-back folder with titanium handles.... a Manix would be perfect IMO.
 
Bodieism said:
Same here.

I would really love to see a lock-back folder with titanium handles.... a Manix would be perfect IMO.

Why use titanium if it is not a frame lock?

for looks?

or to make it more expensive?

:jerkit:
 
beera said:
Why use titanium if it is not a frame lock?

for looks?

or to make it more expensive?

:jerkit:

I'd say for the same reasons as it is used for framelocks - weight reduction and corrosion-resistance. While most framelocks seem to be made of titanium, this is not really a requirement - they can be made from steel, too.

Kristofer
 
beera said:
Honestly, I would love something 3" or more. A proper knife. :)
The Chinese lum would be in a class f its own if it was a Ti frame lock.
Am sure Bob Lum would be more than happy to build you one. He'd even allow you to choose the blade length and whether you wanted a RH or LH version.
 
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