Spyderco Fakes & Knock Offs Info

I also frequent Jeff Randalls site whom is one of the owners of ESEE knives. He said they have very little trouble with Amazon, but frequently with ebay.
Me? I prefer buying from an authorized dealer. Sure, I pay a bit more, but I know what I've got too.
 
I recently picked up a PM2 from a forum where I couldn't see anything wrong in the photos but upon receiving it I had some concerns...
The PM2 was supposedly a "S35vn without the original scales, and flytanium carbon fiber scales"... Came with a box and Edge-u-cation paperwork stating it as a S35 brown exclusive. Where my big concern is the grind line above the Spyderhole... Any thoughts?

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I notice that this looks a bit like the ones sold by "t_amena_oyuno3" on a certain auctioning site.... Anybody have an opinion on this knife's authenticity?
 
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The lack of grind line above the hole is suspect, at least to me. Any pics of the underside of the liners, showing the tiny "w" shaped notches that are stamped in them?
 
The fake spydercos are getting scary in how accurate they look, I’m getting a Yojimbo 2 in a couple of days I got it for a great price but I’m worried, would this be the correct thread to post pics of it when I receive it? Thanks.
 
H0bbs said:
I recently picked up a PM2 from a forum where I couldn't see anything wrong in the photos but upon receiving it I had some concerns...
The PM2 was supposedly a "S35vn without the original scales, and flytanium carbon fiber scales"... Came with a box and Edge-u-cation paperwork stating it as a S35 brown exclusive. Where my big concern is the grind line above the Spyderhole... Any thoughts?

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I notice that this looks a bit like the ones sold by "t_amena_oyuno3" on a certain auctioning site.... Anybody have an opinion on this knife's authenticity?
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Look inside the liners for a little notch on each side that’s a good sign for authenticity I’ve been told.
 
H0bbs,

I have a early PM2 with S35VN and a PM2 with CTS204P that have identical upper grind lines to your photos. The remainder of the PM2 liners and lock appears to be also identical.

Later production PM2 have a more pronounced grind line that is vertical and not blended in a curve as your example. Slight change in Spyderco grinding production is my guess.

Regards,
FK
 
I will never buy knives online unless it's from an authorized dealer. I stopped using FleaBay well over two years ago now. I think I have enough knives to last the rest of my life, as long as I don't lose them. :thumbsup:
 
I purchased a PM2 (S110V) from amazon which arrived yesterday. I checked it against every video / thread that I could find and it seems to pass every test for a counterfeit that I came across.

The box ends had tape but I have read that the knives frequently do from amazon. There was no paper, only the little folding product info / warranty guide. The foam was the dense, slightly undersized type. The box itself appeared legit to the best of what I can glean online.

All the hardware, grinds, lock, liners, etching, G10, fit and finish passed the smell test. I was a little concerned that the blade didn't drop free (much) at first, but it sure did after I hit it with some Slip 2000 EWL.

BTW, my understanding is as reported above...any returns sent back to amazon are not sold as "new". (Though I have personally experienced an error of that sort once on a pair of shoes from them which had a Zappos receipt in it. Amazon owns Zappos or did, and apparently used the same warehouse to fill shoe orders.)

Oh, the funny thing is I had a good premonition about this knife. When I walked down with the dog to get the mail on the main road, the only two things in the mailbox were the package containing the knife...and a pretty decent sized spyder guarding the package at the back of the box. Truth.

Looking forward to putting the knife to work and into the rotation alongside some other classics.
 
I just got a knockoff Reverse and the most obvious difference is that the Fake has NO screws in the handles, so switching the knife to be like the P'kal isn't possible

Here’s a list of things that I noticed compared to my Gen 2 Reverse.

Fake blade came oiled, slightly bigger Spyderhole, tang shaped different, font of company and steel is engraved and a different font, handle bolts and slabs are not seamless to the touch, narrower blade section toward the front and not as tall, company and designer logos only on 1 side and the roughly ground blade is sharp at the first inch only.

Fake sheath is wider, with rough lips and a fake Tek lock which flexes if you pinch it, the box isn’t the same Spyderco box and wrapping they use, and mine came with a letter of history..... describing the Jot Singh Khalsa folder.
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Smoke said:
I just got a knockoff Reverse and the most obvious difference is that the Fake has NO screws in the handles, so switching the knife to be like the P'kal isn't possible

Here’s a list of things that I noticed compared to my Gen 2 Reverse.

Fake blade came oiled, slightly bigger Spyderhole, tang shaped different, font of company and steel is engraved and a different font, handle bolts and slabs are not seamless to the touch, narrower blade section toward the front and not as tall, company and designer logos only on 1 side and the roughly ground blade is sharp at the first inch only.

Fake sheath is wider, with rough lips and a fake Tek lock which flexes if you pinch it, the box isn’t the same Spyderco box and wrapping they use, and mine came with a letter of history..... describing the Jot Singh Khalsa folder.
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Where did you get it from?
 
neffarious said:
These guys seem to have fake EVERYTHING.
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I buy vape and electronic stuff from them and if stuff like vape gear says authentic, it is.

A Spyderco though? Not a chance. I would never buy a knife from FT. Really bad idea.

They have pulled down fake Spydercos in the past quickly though.
 
H0bbs said:
I recently picked up a PM2 from a forum where I couldn't see anything wrong in the photos but upon receiving it I had some concerns...
The PM2 was supposedly a "S35vn without the original scales, and flytanium carbon fiber scales"... Came with a box and Edge-u-cation paperwork stating it as a S35 brown exclusive. Where my big concern is the grind line above the Spyderhole... Any thoughts?

38766113004_c028b86b5f_o.jpg


27697341919_b9731ae900_k.jpg


24607959257_be0856df72_k.jpg


24607958967_3dd910c838_k.jpg


I notice that this looks a bit like the ones sold by "t_amena_oyuno3" on a certain auctioning site.... Anybody have an opinion on this knife's authenticity?
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Looks real to me. I have never seen a fake with the correct jimping. The real ones have jimping that looks like stairs climbing up over the arch over the Spyderco. The fake ones have jimping that points straight up like ^^^^^^.

Look at your jimping vs this. All the fake Spydercos have jimping as pictured below. The real Spydercos have jimping like yours that looks like stairs climbing up the spine.

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